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TMS
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1/7/2011  3:42 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:Who was it that proposed the realgm verified trade with Portland and Denver where we gave up just about the house but kept 1 wing to go with Felton-Melo-Amare-Camby? That would be a push your chips in, Isiah type of deal.

i think ur talking about the 3 way i came up with to show u that it was fiscally possible to get both Camby & Melo in trades:

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5802210


a trade like that is highly unlikely but just wanted to show u that we do have the matching salaries to get both those players

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1/7/2011  3:48 PM
orangeblobman wrote:
TMS wrote:
Finestrg wrote:
TMS wrote:Landry
Wilson
Gallo

which of these 3 would u be most willing to trade away?

Gallo..Didn't even have to think about it.

i agree w/u bro... i love Gallo but he's still so inconsistent... i think Landry brings intangibles that the other 2 don't, so he's a valuable role player that can excel playing w/anyone... & Wilson is budding into a really good player, i would want to hold onto him over Gallo right now... i think Gallo has value & can excel if he becomes a featured player, but he won't become that here playing w/Amare, Felton & Wilson C.

Which is what I said many moons ago. Gallo needs to be developed as The Man. Guy has The Man personality, but he's too respectful, culturally indoctrinated, to enforce his will on the L. Like Yao, his upbringing, his early programming prevents him from applying his skillets, his skillset, to league-wide dominance.

Dirk had no such troubles, he was bred from Prussian War stock and taught, or urged, to dominate, whatever mass cultural effect predominates.

yeah well u gotta consider the reality of the situation... Gallo isn't gonna become Dirk playing next to Amare, Felton & Wilson C, he just isn't... for him to become a star on that level he's gonna have to be the man on another team... here in NY his upside is limited by the talent around him... if we can bring in a stud like Melo who's already at that level for him in a trade, u have to do it... it's gives us the better player & gives Gallo the better situation for him to realize his fullest potential.

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1/7/2011  3:49 PM
TMS wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:
TMS wrote:
Finestrg wrote:
TMS wrote:Landry
Wilson
Gallo

which of these 3 would u be most willing to trade away?

Gallo..Didn't even have to think about it.

i agree w/u bro... i love Gallo but he's still so inconsistent... i think Landry brings intangibles that the other 2 don't, so he's a valuable role player that can excel playing w/anyone... & Wilson is budding into a really good player, i would want to hold onto him over Gallo right now... i think Gallo has value & can excel if he becomes a featured player, but he won't become that here playing w/Amare, Felton & Wilson C.

Which is what I said many moons ago. Gallo needs to be developed as The Man. Guy has The Man personality, but he's too respectful, culturally indoctrinated, to enforce his will on the L. Like Yao, his upbringing, his early programming prevents him from applying his skillets, his skillset, to league-wide dominance.

Dirk had no such troubles, he was bred from Prussian War stock and taught, or urged, to dominate, whatever mass cultural effect predominates.

yeah well u gotta consider the reality of the situation... Gallo isn't gonna become Dirk playing next to Amare, Felton & Wilson C, he just isn't... for him to become a star on that level he's gonna have to be the man on another team... here in NY his upside is limited by the talent around him... if we can bring in a stud like Melo who's already at that level for him in a trade, u have to do it... it's gives us the better player & gives Gallo the better situation for him to realize his fullest potential.

You just sold me.

LIBERATE GALLINARI.

We want this guy to be All-NBA, and he won't do that here.

Bless you, Kindheart.

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1/7/2011  3:54 PM
Wilson Chandler and Landry Fields are tougher to replace than Danilo Gallinari. Heck, we don't even miss Gallinari RIGHT NOW.

As for a fair trade with Denver - if I were them, I'd ask for Chandler as the center piece and try to get rid of Al Harrington's contract.
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1/7/2011  4:09 PM
orangeblobman wrote:Come on, bro, CHAOS. You can break that down into like two lines. What I gotta do, decipher syntax? Damn.

LOL

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1/7/2011  4:12 PM
TMS wrote:
Finestrg wrote:
TMS wrote:Landry
Wilson
Gallo

which of these 3 would u be most willing to trade away?

Gallo..Didn't even have to think about it.

i agree w/u bro... i love Gallo but he's still so inconsistent... i think Landry brings intangibles that the other 2 don't, so he's a valuable role player that can excel playing w/anyone... & Wilson is budding into a really good player, i would want to hold onto him over Gallo right now... i think Gallo has value & can excel if he becomes a featured player, but he won't become that here playing w/Amare, Felton & Wilson C.

I'm in the Gallo boat right now too. Still think he has higher upside than Chandler but am willing to forgo cause I think Chandler is better in other areas that would be better for the team.

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1/7/2011  8:22 PM
I was reading the Sheridan article and came across this...."Maybe the Nuggets don't trade Carmelo, and maybe he notifies the Nuggets in late June that he will not opt out of the $18.5 million he is due to receive next season. If those things happen, Anthony can still be traded (and still sign the extension) right up until June 30 when the collective bargaining agreement expires. That is a piece of the whole Carmelo equation that hasn't been given quite as much attention as it merits." Interesting........
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1/7/2011  9:03 PM
I keep shifting from willing to part with Gallo or Chandler. They both have skills that the team needs, with both of them its about showing up consistently. Melo has pretty much said he is going to New York. Am I wrong to believe this? If its the case the Knicks should just wait a few months and make some more moves in the offseason for a serious title run next year.
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1/7/2011  9:35 PM
Rookie wrote:Again....they are going to want to include Al Harrington and his 5 years in any deal....are you ready for 5 more years of Al?
I don't have a problem with Harrington but D'Antoni was done with him and wanted him traded last year at the deadline. Harrington might be a very useful player playing alongside Melo and Amare. He didn't have the luxury of playing with a post player in NY.
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1/7/2011  9:43 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
Rookie wrote:Again....they are going to want to include Al Harrington and his 5 years in any deal....are you ready for 5 more years of Al?
I don't have a problem with Harrington but D'Antoni was done with him and wanted him traded last year at the deadline. Harrington might be a very useful player playing alongside Melo and Amare. He didn't have the luxury of playing with a post player in NY.

the reason MDA didn't like Harrington, IMHO, was that he was the ultimate ball stopper and broke the offensive sets too many times for its own good. He was horrible on D (even the effort part). And he should have been more of a leader and wasn't.

Those things just point to the fact that he wasn't nearly the team player or winner that MDA/Walsh needed for the team. Doubt he will be back.

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1/7/2011  9:44 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/7/2011  9:44 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
Rookie wrote:Again....they are going to want to include Al Harrington and his 5 years in any deal....are you ready for 5 more years of Al?
I don't have a problem with Harrington but D'Antoni was done with him and wanted him traded last year at the deadline. Harrington might be a very useful player playing alongside Melo and Amare. He didn't have the luxury of playing with a post player in NY.

Wow, I've had more sober conclusions drunk. You're a sober drunk,

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1/7/2011  9:45 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/7/2011  9:47 PM
I dont mind getting Anthony in this scenario


2014 pick
Trade Randolph for a 1st round pick or they can just have him--their choice
2 second round picks
3mm in cash + we can take back Balkman
Thats 2 1's 2 2's and 3mm 4 picks +3mm in cash + additional 1.7 off the books--that is very fair in a take it or leave it deal.

That would give us

C-Turriaf
F Amare
F Chandler
F Anthony
G Felton
F Gallo
F Fields
G Douglas

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1/7/2011  9:46 PM
martin wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Rookie wrote:Again....they are going to want to include Al Harrington and his 5 years in any deal....are you ready for 5 more years of Al?
I don't have a problem with Harrington but D'Antoni was done with him and wanted him traded last year at the deadline. Harrington might be a very useful player playing alongside Melo and Amare. He didn't have the luxury of playing with a post player in NY.

the reason MDA didn't like Harrington, IMHO, was that he was the ultimate ball stopper and broke the offensive sets too many times for its own good. He was horrible on D (even the effort part). And he should have been more of a leader and wasn't.

Those things just point to the fact that he wasn't nearly the team player or winner that MDA/Walsh needed for the team. Doubt he will be back.

What I remember being reported was that D'Antoni felt he was a bad influence on the young players. I think Harrington thought he was the man and tried to be the go to guy. No one stopped him. His role would be different on this team.
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1/8/2011  3:53 AM
orangeblobman wrote:
CHAOS wrote:C = STAT
PF = GALLO
SF = MELO
SG = WILL
PG = RAY

6th man is JR SMITH

I'm in.

Come playoffs that team gets killed on the boards

Rose is not the answer.
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1/8/2011  7:46 AM
knickstorrents wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:
CHAOS wrote:C = STAT
PF = GALLO
SF = MELO
SG = WILL
PG = RAY

6th man is JR SMITH

I'm in.

Come playoffs that team gets killed on the boards

Gallo's the only bad rebounder in that group. And the long-term goal could be to replace him with a better big. Melo and Will are actually above average rebounders for the SF and SG spots.
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1/10/2011  9:40 AM
CHAOS wrote:C = STAT
PF = GALLO
SF = MELO
SG = WILL
PG = RAY

6th man is JR SMITH

PF = Point Forward? Pop Forward? P_iss Forward?
Why do we constantly want to play at least one person out of position?
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1/10/2011  11:15 AM
Finestrg wrote:
TMS wrote:Landry
Wilson
Gallo

which of these 3 would u be most willing to trade away?

Gallo..Didn't even have to think about it.


Yup. No doubt about it.
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1/10/2011  11:21 AM
TMS wrote:Landry
Wilson
Gallo

which of these 3 would u be most willing to trade away?

None. I am waiting for Melo in the offseason. If he is gone, he is gone.
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1/10/2011  11:26 AM
orangeblobman wrote:
TMS wrote:
Finestrg wrote:
TMS wrote:Landry
Wilson
Gallo

which of these 3 would u be most willing to trade away?

Gallo..Didn't even have to think about it.

i agree w/u bro... i love Gallo but he's still so inconsistent... i think Landry brings intangibles that the other 2 don't, so he's a valuable role player that can excel playing w/anyone... & Wilson is budding into a really good player, i would want to hold onto him over Gallo right now... i think Gallo has value & can excel if he becomes a featured player, but he won't become that here playing w/Amare, Felton & Wilson C.

Which is what I said many moons ago. Gallo needs to be developed as The Man. Guy has The Man personality, but he's too respectful, culturally indoctrinated, to enforce his will on the L. Like Yao, his upbringing, his early programming prevents him from applying his skillets, his skillset, to league-wide dominance.

Dirk had no such troubles, he was bred from Prussian War stock and taught, or urged, to dominate, whatever mass cultural effect predominates.

word

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1/10/2011  2:29 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
TMS wrote:Landry
Wilson
Gallo

which of these 3 would u be most willing to trade away?

None. I am waiting for Melo in the offseason. If he is gone, he is gone.

u can't have Melo w/o giving up at least Wilson or Gallo... if u don't wanna give up any then ur saying u don't want Melo as a FA either.

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