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1/6/2011  8:07 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/6/2011  8:30 PM
rvwink wrote:"I'm just venting as a fan of this franchise just like you or anyone else."

Maybe I am just over sensitive but it actually bothered me that you seemed so upset. I think you will probably agree that Mike may be hard at work teaching AR what spots to occupy and who to pass to depending on each situation, the way he taught Wilson. If that is the case, and in AR doesn't have it all down yet, I just didn't understand what was bothering you so much.

what bothers me is when we waste assets to bring players in that get no run... if we had just signed AR to a low money deal the way we did Timo Mozgov i wouldn't be raising a stink about him not seeing minutes... it disappoints me that AR hasn't seen any run after expected big things out of him after we gave up David Lee to get him here... at least i would have liked to see him get the same kind of opportunity that Mozgov got to show what he could do, but that hasn't happened.

anyway, this thread is about Nene, let's stick to the topic at hand... i would prefer other options at C over Nene if i had a choice.

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1/6/2011  9:19 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:He's a big body on defense and he averages 15 PPG on only 8 shot attempts!

Those are the two things I like about him. He's great at getting to the line. His rebounding is about average which is better than our centers.

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1/6/2011  9:22 PM
First people have been saying that we gave away David Lee to get AR. I don't think that is accurate. David Lee wasn't in our budget. He was gone anyway. Because we had a good relationship with David, he allowed us to get a nice payment from Golden State instead of potentially signing a deal there and having us get nothing. Everything we got for David Lee was a nice bonus... .
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Second, .AR was a project with a very high upside. In return we have to be willing to eat the time required to bring him up to speed. Mike seems to be a very good teacher to me. Anyone that doesn't give him a lot of the credit for Will Chandler's development,isn't paying proper attention. Good teaching only goes so far. The student has to be motivated to learn and willing to accept change. If the student doesn't try hard enough, I think MDA probably loses interest. The key issue is whether or not AR is working hard to learn the system. You and I both know AR's talents are particularly well suited for the system that Mike has in place. Seems to me Mike is definitely doing his part, because he certainly sees how nicely AR can fit with the Knicks.

I will say that if I was Mike I would err on bringing AR back more slowly rather than faster. The reason is that if he comes back and strikes out a second time, his value will drop further, and his self confidence will also suffer. So I think Mike is being conservative and wants to be sure it will work this time around. (I remember when Shawne was given a chance, Mike said Shawne had been playing great in the gym for a while and it took Mike too much time to pull the trigger. It will probably take Mike a while to make sure AR is ready, before bringing him back.

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1/7/2011  11:34 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/7/2011  11:37 AM
Nugget fan brett j wrote:The basic point is that this team in general has little to no commitment to defense, which means they have little to no commitment to be successful. Its not just Melo. In fact, Aflalo and K-Mart are the only two guys who consistently WANT to stop people. Billups could care less about D these days. Melo is Melo on D. Birdman has never been a good defender, but at least he used to be a shot blocker...Now he just jumps continuously and misses, or he gets crammed on. Nene is now one of the worst post defenders in the league...We've known for years that he and Birdman cannot guard the pick and roll, but he doesn't even physically compete in the paint. I've never seen a big man give up so many uncontested layups without even trying to foul...Your center is supposed to be the guy who contests the most shots, but its the opposite in Denver. It is frustrating because of his physical ability, but at what point do you come to the realization the he is not a competitor and will never reach anywhere near his potential because of that? It is reality.

Sounds like Nene has jazz hands of his own.

http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_17032078#ixzz1AMrvuKXE

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1/7/2011  11:38 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/7/2011  11:39 AM
Panos wrote:
Nugget fan brett j wrote:The basic point is that this team in general has little to no commitment to defense, which means they have little to no commitment to be successful. Its not just Melo. In fact, Aflalo and K-Mart are the only two guys who consistently WANT to stop people. Billups could care less about D these days. Melo is Melo on D. Birdman has never been a good defender, but at least he used to be a shot blocker...Now he just jumps continuously and misses, or he gets crammed on. Nene is now one of the worst post defenders in the league...We've known for years that he and Birdman cannot guard the pick and roll, but he doesn't even physically compete in the paint. I've never seen a big man give up so many uncontested layups without even trying to foul...Your center is supposed to be the guy who contests the most shots, but its the opposite in Denver. It is frustrating because of his physical ability, but at what point do you come to the realization the he is not a competitor and will never reach anywhere near his potential because of that? It is reality.

Sounds like Nene has jazz hands of his own.

http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_17032078#ixzz1AMrvuKXE

what was the quote about curry...coach, what can curry do to block more shots...answer "jump!"

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1/7/2011  6:14 PM
Nene might actually be the western conference starting all-star center. He's 3rd in voting behind Yao and Bynum but Yao is already out and for any given game there's about an 80% chance Bynum will be out.
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