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Nalod
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12/28/2010  6:41 AM

If Mason started playing well it would assumed by haters that MDA was keeping him off the court instead of thinking the guys play improved. Last year it was assumed Hill was some how being held back.
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12/28/2010  9:15 AM
i don't see anyone arguing that Mason deserves minutes... not sure why that's even an issue on this thread... the issue is the head coach making unnecessarily ass-holish comments to the press about his own players, IF indeed the article is true in the context it was presented... as has been stated, Berman has been known to try & create drama where there is none, so u have to take this article w/that grain of salt, but MDA also has a known history of being smug whenever he's questioned about the rotation decisions he makes... personally i don't see how publically embarassing a guy who isn't even seeing playing time benefits the team in any way, shape or form, especially someone like Mason who has conducted himself like a pro since he's been here... IF that was indeed what MDA was doing in this case with the "Who?" comment... again, none of us really knows what the context was so we're arguing hypotheticals here.
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12/28/2010  9:37 AM
I guess Mason is in the "where are they now?" file.
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12/28/2010  10:47 AM
wow, i didnt think a silly article by berman of all people would generate this much debate. since it did, here's my two cents.....are you guys kidding me????????

mason has been given opportunities...and ALOT of money to come in here and be a pro. for him to say he didnt get a chance or opportunity yet is flat out BULL-SHIT. maybe its the fact that he cant hit a jump shot and looks like he is sleep walking during the few minutes that he does get that makes d'antoni forget who he is.

the nba is a business. to say everyone should get a shot is just rediculous. you get a shot by MAKING it into the league. then you have to prove you belong from then on to stay. the best play, b/c teams need to win above all else or else. people's jobs are at stake. what makes this more rediculous are the guaranteed contracts. if the nba were more like, let's say, the nfl, where contracts arent guaranteed for their lifetimes, we wouldnt even have to entertain such stupidiy at this level. players would be busting their asses to ensure they still got paid.

so what if mike's an ass or being smug or just joking...who cares???? at the end of the day it's about the player making enough of an impact to get playing time. im not the biggest d'antoni fan but in this case, he can say what he wants. he and DW's investment in this player from taking on the contract, through summer league and into pre-season play - that was mason's chance to make his mark that he belonged (just like AR) and he didnt....so now he sits. big f'in deal. he SHOULD sit.

stop crying and make your mark....

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12/28/2010  10:49 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/28/2010  10:52 AM
no one said he shouldn't sit.

as for MDA being as ass, if u wanna defend his right to be an ass & embarass a bench warmer then would u also be defending him if he made some unnecessary crack about a player that was actually producing on the floor? is the coach always right no matter what? i don't think that's fair... when a player acts like a pro & the coach acts like a douche, i don't see why it's objectionable to disagree w/it.

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12/28/2010  10:57 AM
TMS wrote:no one said he shouldn't sit.

as for MDA being as ass, if u wanna defend his right to be an ass & embarass a bench warmer then would u also be defending him if he made some unnecessary crack about a player that was actually producing on the floor? is the coach always right no matter what? i don't think that's fair... when a player acts like a pro & the coach acts like a douche, i don't see why it's objectionable to disagree w/it.

you didnt see the interview did you? i didnt either. that's why i didnt comment on 'how' he meant what he said. so until someone can post it to see exactly how d'antoni said what he said, then your opinion is based solely on how you feel about d'antoni, not the situation at hand.

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12/28/2010  10:57 AM
You can be an ass if you're a winner. It's losers that should not be asses. Even so, Coach Mike is not an ass. He dishes it good because he's a man, not a mamby pamby, and I think the Berman quote was skewed in the way only Berman can bend it.
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12/28/2010  11:04 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/28/2010  11:08 AM
jimimou wrote:
TMS wrote:no one said he shouldn't sit.

as for MDA being as ass, if u wanna defend his right to be an ass & embarass a bench warmer then would u also be defending him if he made some unnecessary crack about a player that was actually producing on the floor? is the coach always right no matter what? i don't think that's fair... when a player acts like a pro & the coach acts like a douche, i don't see why it's objectionable to disagree w/it.

you didnt see the interview did you? i didnt either. that's why i didnt comment on 'how' he meant what he said. so until someone can post it to see exactly how d'antoni said what he said, then your opinion is based solely on how you feel about d'antoni, not the situation at hand.

if u read my comments i accounted for the fact that Berman has been known to stretch the truth to create controversy so this article has to be taken w/a grain of salt... the article could be true, or it could be a twisted version of it... there's no way for you to know it to be anything but the way it was presented either since neither of us saw the interview... yet you suggested that we shouldn't care what kind of context it was meant in, whether he meant it as a diss or not, & you even somewhat applauded MDA's response because you had interpreted it to be a sarcastic response in your original post, & that i can't agree with... i found absolutely nothing wrong w/what Mason said, he came across as a professional & didn't bash the coach or the franchise in any way... not sure how that deserves scorn from anyone, particularly from his own head coach, if indeed that's how MDA's comment was intended.

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12/28/2010  11:05 AM
TMS wrote:no one said he shouldn't sit.

as for MDA being as ass, if u wanna defend his right to be an ass & embarass a bench warmer then would u also be defending him if he made some unnecessary crack about a player that was actually producing on the floor? is the coach always right no matter what? i don't think that's fair... when a player acts like a pro & the coach acts like a douche, i don't see why it's objectionable to disagree w/it.

yea its just bad karma. mda was a d!ck to marbury and that is what caused the drama; that lead to a buyout. marbury his whole career played hard and this is the one coach he refused to suit up for when his number was called. mda has issues not saying we dont all have. but lets not kid ourselves, mda burns bridges with players unnecessarily.

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12/28/2010  11:13 AM
when isiah had chaney thrown out of the building i said i didn’t give a s**t as long as the man wins. when he showed that he knew less than nothing about building a basketball team i jumped down his throat for every little thing he said and did.

same way for me with mda. the coach of my team can be the biggest pr**k in the world and it's all right with me if he's leading us to victories. if i want a role model i turn on tnt and watch sir charles.

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12/28/2010  11:14 AM
cheers wrote:
TMS wrote:no one said he shouldn't sit.

as for MDA being as ass, if u wanna defend his right to be an ass & embarass a bench warmer then would u also be defending him if he made some unnecessary crack about a player that was actually producing on the floor? is the coach always right no matter what? i don't think that's fair... when a player acts like a pro & the coach acts like a douche, i don't see why it's objectionable to disagree w/it.

yea its just bad karma. mda was a d!ck to marbury and that is what caused the drama; that lead to a buyout. marbury his whole career played hard and this is the one coach he refused to suit up for when his number was called. mda has issues not saying we dont all have. but lets not kid ourselves, mda burns bridges with players unnecessarily.

[ps] PLAY AR.

Marbury deserved the treatment he got, he acted like a selfish primadonna ever since he got here & had no problems embarassing the franchise w/his behavior on & off the court... i had no problem w/how MDA treated him... not sure what Mason has done to deserve any kinds of sarcastic digs in the press by the coach if that was his intent

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12/28/2010  11:19 AM
Marv wrote:when isiah had chaney thrown out of the building i said i didn’t give a s**t as long as the man wins. when he showed that he knew less than nothing about building a basketball team i jumped down his throat for every little thing he said and did.

same way for me with mda. the coach of my team can be the biggest pr**k in the world and it's all right with me if he's leading us to victories. if i want a role model i turn on tnt and watch sir charles.

isiah got good players for the cards he had at the time, he just didnt have anything to tie it all together. plus though the fans were behind isiah in the beginning. most ny sports press hated on isiah from day one. brought up everything from the continental basketball association to some quote about larry bird that he agreed with.

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12/28/2010  11:21 AM
cheers wrote:
Marv wrote:when isiah had chaney thrown out of the building i said i didn’t give a s**t as long as the man wins. when he showed that he knew less than nothing about building a basketball team i jumped down his throat for every little thing he said and did.

same way for me with mda. the coach of my team can be the biggest pr**k in the world and it's all right with me if he's leading us to victories. if i want a role model i turn on tnt and watch sir charles.

isiah got good players for the cards he had at the time, he just didnt have anything to tie it all together. plus though the fans were behind isiah in the beginning. most ny sports press hated on isiah from day one. brought up everything from the continental basketball association to some quote about larry bird that he agreed with.

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12/28/2010  11:23 AM
martin wrote:
cheers wrote:
Marv wrote:when isiah had chaney thrown out of the building i said i didn’t give a s**t as long as the man wins. when he showed that he knew less than nothing about building a basketball team i jumped down his throat for every little thing he said and did.

same way for me with mda. the coach of my team can be the biggest pr**k in the world and it's all right with me if he's leading us to victories. if i want a role model i turn on tnt and watch sir charles.

isiah got good players for the cards he had at the time, he just didnt have anything to tie it all together. plus though the fans were behind isiah in the beginning. most ny sports press hated on isiah from day one. brought up everything from the continental basketball association to some quote about larry bird that he agreed with.

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12/28/2010  11:23 AM
TMS wrote:
cheers wrote:
TMS wrote:no one said he shouldn't sit.

as for MDA being as ass, if u wanna defend his right to be an ass & embarass a bench warmer then would u also be defending him if he made some unnecessary crack about a player that was actually producing on the floor? is the coach always right no matter what? i don't think that's fair... when a player acts like a pro & the coach acts like a douche, i don't see why it's objectionable to disagree w/it.

yea its just bad karma. mda was a d!ck to marbury and that is what caused the drama; that lead to a buyout. marbury his whole career played hard and this is the one coach he refused to suit up for when his number was called. mda has issues not saying we dont all have. but lets not kid ourselves, mda burns bridges with players unnecessarily.

[ps] PLAY AR.

Marbury deserved the treatment he got, he acted like a selfish primadonna ever since he got here & had no problems embarassing the franchise w/his behavior on & off the court... i had no problem w/how MDA treated him... not sure what Mason has done to deserve any kinds of sarcastic digs in the press by the coach if that was his intent

you can say that but look how marbury played.. he tried to play mda system of chucking up threes, which was completely outside of steph's game. as for embarrassing the franchise off the court. pls. like when he donated a million of his salary to katrina or when he started up a shoe company so poor kids can buy affordable sneakers to ball in.

allan houston never embarrass the knicks franchise, once. he also didnt do anything close to the good steph did.

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12/28/2010  11:23 AM
Marv wrote:
martin wrote:
cheers wrote:
Marv wrote:when isiah had chaney thrown out of the building i said i didn’t give a s**t as long as the man wins. when he showed that he knew less than nothing about building a basketball team i jumped down his throat for every little thing he said and did.

same way for me with mda. the coach of my team can be the biggest pr**k in the world and it's all right with me if he's leading us to victories. if i want a role model i turn on tnt and watch sir charles.

isiah got good players for the cards he had at the time, he just didnt have anything to tie it all together. plus though the fans were behind isiah in the beginning. most ny sports press hated on isiah from day one. brought up everything from the continental basketball association to some quote about larry bird that he agreed with.

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12/28/2010  11:27 AM
martin wrote:
Marv wrote:
martin wrote:
cheers wrote:
Marv wrote:when isiah had chaney thrown out of the building i said i didn’t give a s**t as long as the man wins. when he showed that he knew less than nothing about building a basketball team i jumped down his throat for every little thing he said and did.

same way for me with mda. the coach of my team can be the biggest pr**k in the world and it's all right with me if he's leading us to victories. if i want a role model i turn on tnt and watch sir charles.

isiah got good players for the cards he had at the time, he just didnt have anything to tie it all together. plus though the fans were behind isiah in the beginning. most ny sports press hated on isiah from day one. brought up everything from the continental basketball association to some quote about larry bird that he agreed with.

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so i take it when isiah signed marbury you and marv were against the signing

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12/28/2010  11:30 AM
cheers wrote:
martin wrote:
Marv wrote:
martin wrote:
cheers wrote:
Marv wrote:when isiah had chaney thrown out of the building i said i didn’t give a s**t as long as the man wins. when he showed that he knew less than nothing about building a basketball team i jumped down his throat for every little thing he said and did.

same way for me with mda. the coach of my team can be the biggest pr**k in the world and it's all right with me if he's leading us to victories. if i want a role model i turn on tnt and watch sir charles.

isiah got good players for the cards he had at the time, he just didnt have anything to tie it all together. plus though the fans were behind isiah in the beginning. most ny sports press hated on isiah from day one. brought up everything from the continental basketball association to some quote about larry bird that he agreed with.

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so i take it when isiah signed marbury you and marv were against the signing

totally for it. and after the larry brown year when all 3 showed what little pricks they were i thought all 3 should be removed from the franchise. look which 2 stayed. how did that work out for the franchise?

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12/28/2010  11:32 AM
Marv wrote:
cheers wrote:
martin wrote:
Marv wrote:
martin wrote:
cheers wrote:
Marv wrote:when isiah had chaney thrown out of the building i said i didn’t give a s**t as long as the man wins. when he showed that he knew less than nothing about building a basketball team i jumped down his throat for every little thing he said and did.

same way for me with mda. the coach of my team can be the biggest pr**k in the world and it's all right with me if he's leading us to victories. if i want a role model i turn on tnt and watch sir charles.

isiah got good players for the cards he had at the time, he just didnt have anything to tie it all together. plus though the fans were behind isiah in the beginning. most ny sports press hated on isiah from day one. brought up everything from the continental basketball association to some quote about larry bird that he agreed with.

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so i take it when isiah signed marbury you and marv were against the signing

totally for it. and after the larry brown year when all 3 showed what little pricks they were i thought all 3 should be removed from the franchise. look which 2 stayed. how did that work out for the franchise?

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12/28/2010  11:34 AM
TMS wrote:
jimimou wrote:
TMS wrote:no one said he shouldn't sit.

as for MDA being as ass, if u wanna defend his right to be an ass & embarass a bench warmer then would u also be defending him if he made some unnecessary crack about a player that was actually producing on the floor? is the coach always right no matter what? i don't think that's fair... when a player acts like a pro & the coach acts like a douche, i don't see why it's objectionable to disagree w/it.

you didnt see the interview did you? i didnt either. that's why i didnt comment on 'how' he meant what he said. so until someone can post it to see exactly how d'antoni said what he said, then your opinion is based solely on how you feel about d'antoni, not the situation at hand.

if u read my comments i accounted for the fact that Berman has been known to stretch the truth to create controversy so this article has to be taken w/a grain of salt... the article could be true, or it could be a twisted version of it... there's no way for you to know it to be anything but the way it was presented either since neither of us saw the interview... yet you suggested that we shouldn't care what kind of context it was meant in, whether he meant it as a diss or not, & you even somewhat applauded MDA's response because you had interpreted it to be a sarcastic response in your original post, & that i can't agree with... i found absolutely nothing wrong w/what Mason said, he came across as a professional & didn't bash the coach or the franchise in any way... not sure how that deserves scorn from anyone, particularly from his own head coach, if indeed that's how MDA's comment was intended.

yeah, i read your comments......and i didnt agree with them before i posted and i dont agree with them now.

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