scoshin wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Sangfroid wrote:This belief that we must gut the team in order to bring in a 2nd star player is akin to eating our young.

If Amar'e went down, other players would take a higher portion of the shots.

Very few teams with 2 stars had to go out and import their stars in the same season. Most of them had one of those players already.

If we look at the Thunder model, their young stars came fromthe draft, as they were a new team, drafting at lottery positions.

Right now, Gallo, Chandler and Fields represent the foundation of a team. We will have dollars and picks to continue to solidify that foundation as we develop.

Believe that we have the benefit of a steady hand on the lever.

Every time I see Wilson Chandler play--and what I believe we can get him for contract wise--I care less about Carmelo Anthony. Not saying Chandler is better--but cost/performance ratio is well in Chandlers favor. This team has its scorers what it needs is a C and a really nice bench upgrade--where a guy can step in play like an all star off the bench. Thats why SA is 25-3 and Dallas is 22-5.

Did you not apply that same cost/performance ratio in Lee vs. Amare debates?

I can honestly say that I didn't, but I find that the differences between STAT and Lee are worlds apart. Lee accepted the losing, only worried about his numbers and his dollars, and being an apologist fot the dysfunction. For the extra dollar, we've got a player with a winning mindset AND he is sharing that attitude and his success with the team and the city.

nixluva wrote:I'm torn to be honest. I acknowledge the boost in power we'd get from having another Star, but at the same time I love the guys we have and kind of feel that we just need a rebounder and another PG. For what we need them for it is entirely possible that we already have those players on the team. Between AR and Timo, I could easily see them developing into useful parts of this rotation. It's not like we don't see the talent they have. It would be cheaper and FAR LESS DESTRUCTIVE to the teams chemistry to continue to develop our own talent.

My thinking is that we should stay the course. Just look at how TD is starting to come around. It could be a fluke, but from what i'm seeing it looks like growth to me. Eventually we'll See AR get another shot and who knows what happens when he's a bit more ready. There's no risk for us waiting. We're still winning and that affords us time to keep working with our own roster.

there was a decent segment on the MDA Show that aired just before the Knicks game, prob be on several times more over the next few days. Breen asked Mike: Why don't you play AR and Moz.

Mikes answer: He tried to play those guys early in the year and they went 3-8, so he had to change something up, namely Turiaf and then Chandler into starting lineup. He noted that he would have played Chandler at the 2 guard spot but Fields was playing so well there. So, he had Chandler as a 4, Amare as a 5, and Turiaf off the bench. He viewed AR as a 4/5, but couldn't justify TAKING away minutes from those 3 and at the same time the Knicks were winning. plus, Chandler turned it up a notch. And then added that Williams started very hot and he couldn't justify sitting him either.

Said that AR/Moz prob will get another shot as someone will get injured, etc. and they just have to be ready.

martin wrote:

nixluva wrote:I'm torn to be honest. I acknowledge the boost in power we'd get from having another Star, but at the same time I love the guys we have and kind of feel that we just need a rebounder and another PG. For what we need them for it is entirely possible that we already have those players on the team. Between AR and Timo, I could easily see them developing into useful parts of this rotation. It's not like we don't see the talent they have. It would be cheaper and FAR LESS DESTRUCTIVE to the teams chemistry to continue to develop our own talent.

My thinking is that we should stay the course. Just look at how TD is starting to come around. It could be a fluke, but from what i'm seeing it looks like growth to me. Eventually we'll See AR get another shot and who knows what happens when he's a bit more ready. There's no risk for us waiting. We're still winning and that affords us time to keep working with our own roster.

there was a decent segment on the MDA Show that aired just before the Knicks game, prob be on several times more over the next few days. Breen asked Mike: Why don't you play AR and Moz.

Mikes answer: He tried to play those guys early in the year and they went 3-8, so he had to change something up, namely Turiaf and then Chandler into starting lineup. He noted that he would have played Chandler at the 2 guard spot but Fields was playing so well there. So, he had Chandler as a 4, Amare as a 5, and Turiaf off the bench. He viewed AR as a 4/5, but couldn't justify TAKING away minutes from those 3 and at the same time the Knicks were winning. plus, Chandler turned it up a notch. And then added that Williams started very hot and he couldn't justify sitting him either.

Said that AR/Moz prob will get another shot as someone will get injured, etc. and they just have to be ready.

Nah--Mosgov is atleast 2-3 years away from playing a solid role in the NBA--his hands kill him and he needs to learn the NBA nuances--impossible in a short period of time and he makes way to much cash. Let Randolph develop somewhere else--its pretty simple on my plate--I want proven NBA players in the rotation and nothing else. Go get me Grant Hill and Carl Landry--both expiring. Ill give either team Mosgov or Randolph for both of those guys and cash. Their teams are done. We have a C prospect we can pay 400k to next year in Jerome Jordan and my bet is hes better than Mosgov.