Nalod wrote:STARS!!!! MORE AND MORE STARS.......MUST HAVE STARS.....IF NO STARS MUST TALKA ABOUT STARS.......

THE SUN WILL COME OUT TOMORROW.........

if they're real ones...

not fading hypes like iggy...

fine as a top 3rd option on good teams with a REALLY good star...

amar'e is not THAT good, and IGGY is THAT much lower of a player, in my view.

PresIke wrote:boo...dislike...iggy good for our system?

dude can't shoot, and WAYYYY to overpaid!

verajao might be really useful, if we also had melo...

stat, verajao, melo, ???, felton...

maybe getting another top pg soon afterward...

that i could roll wit...

Yup, my thoughts exactly. It's not that Dolla isn't a good player, but not here, not at that kinda coin.

Anderson could fill a huge void; energy guy, solid defense and boarding. 6-11, double-double guy at about 7mil per

BigDaddyG wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

TMS wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

BigSm00th wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:Bucher said in his chat last week that Portland offered Batum and Pryz for Iggy and the 76ers didn't take it. If Philly turned that down, I'm not sure that Curry's expiring and TD, or whatever, is enough to get a deal done. I wouldn't mind Gibson and Varejo. Substitute Ramon Sessions for Gibson and I'd have even fewer complaints.

seriously? gibson shoots 42% from downtown and has been one of the most efficient 3 point shooters in the league.

sessions is 0 for 1 on 3s this year. there's absolutely 0 chance walsh would take sessions over gibson. d'antoni wouldn't play him! MDA wants shooters!

Wouldn't mind either on, I just like Session because he's a legitimate point guard and Gibson is more of a combo guard.

DW was scouting Sessions heavily over the past summer... he's obviously interested in him

We were looking at him a few years ago- why didn't we want him then, after he had put up some good numbers in Milwaukee?

Didn't Donnie want to preserve the cap space? Session wanted more than one or two years and we were trying to preserve space for this past summer's free agent haul..

that's correct... DW didn't wanna sign anyone to an extended contract because he was trying to preserve our cap flexibility in 2010... if his plan is to target guys like Varejao as a plan B, then you have to figure he no longer values cap flexibility this summer & will be willing to take on other longterm contracts to improve the roster.

PresIke wrote:

TMS wrote:

loweyecue wrote:Yeah they just noted the other day that Boobie is sixth all time on the NBA 3 pts made list, ahead of Glen Rice!

i like boobies as much as the next guy, but we need a backup PG, not another shooter... Sessions is the guy i'd target over Boobie.

sessions can't shoot and is too costly, imho.

i'd rather have telfair who's deal ends.

i really don't view Sessions as essential piece... just saying if he's a throw in on a deal to get Varejao, we could use him to fill the need at backup PG... i just think he fits our needs more than Boobie Gibson does.

FistOfOakley wrote:iggy can do what melo and stoudemire can't... create shots for others.

felton is a great distributor as we've seen thus far but having another ball handler who can be great defensively would be great.

i'm hoping we don't have to do give up much for him however.

Iggy can't even help the Sixers, what is he going to do for the KNicks. Iggy has been given the keys to the Sixers and he has very little to show for it. That is one overrated player and I do not want to see him on the Knicks for the simple reason he isn't a MDA player and probably end up in his dog house.

i think people make the mistake of comparing him to guys like melo. melo is a scorer/finisher but the ball stops at him. if you have an offense where everyone is a threat to shoot a guy like iggy is valuable because he can take it to the basket , draw attention AND have the ability to find others for a basket.

he's a mediocre shooter and he's a bit passive at times, he's by no means a perfect player but i think he's a better fit honestly.

amar'e is enough of a ball stopper to me. and i'm sure with melo it would just turn into alternating iso plays with amar'e and melo which i'm sure mda would love.

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

Vmart wrote:

FistOfOakley wrote:iggy can do what melo and stoudemire can't... create shots for others.

felton is a great distributor as we've seen thus far but having another ball handler who can be great defensively would be great.

i'm hoping we don't have to do give up much for him however.

Iggy can't even help the Sixers, what is he going to do for the KNicks. Iggy has been given the keys to the Sixers and he has very little to show for it. That is one overrated player and I do not want to see him on the Knicks for the simple reason he isn't a MDA player and probably end up in his dog house.

Iggy is not the guy you hand the keys to. He's a useful player when surrounded by more talented players. He played a huge role on the USA team at the worlds mainly playing defense and slashing/making good passes on offense. He has a shot at being useful next to Amare, Felton and shooters.

Judging a player by his team's record is a dangerous road to go down and somewhat illogical as well.

Ex: Melo couldn't even get his team out of the 1st round of the playoffs.

To me the above statement doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Neither does "Iggy can't even help the Sixers" Be reasonable.

Lost some cred there. Melo went to the WCF.

FistOfOakley wrote:he hasn't had great teammates to begin with.

i think people make the mistake of comparing him to guys like melo. melo is a scorer/finisher but the ball stops at him. if you have an offense where everyone is a threat to shoot a guy like iggy is valuable because he can take it to the basket , draw attention AND have the ability to find others for a basket.

he's a mediocre shooter and he's a bit passive at times, he's by no means a perfect player but i think he's a better fit honestly.

amar'e is enough of a ball stopper to me. and i'm sure with melo it would just turn into alternating iso plays with amar'e and melo which i'm sure mda would love.

personally i'd much rather roll with Fields at SG w/Melo at SF than have Iggy at SG & Wilson or Gallo at SF... of course this is all moot if Melo goes to another team in a trade... just stating for argument's purposes here.

i like the speed, athleticism, explosion & defense that Iggy bring, but at the end of the day i don't think he would make as big of an impact on this team as Melo would, which makes him option B for me out of all the realistic players we're talking about... who knows, maybe DW has some other player up his sleeve that no one's even talking about right now? wouldn't be shocking if he pulled someone from out of left field at the trade deadline that none of us even considered.

TMS wrote:the system MDA runs is based on the PnR to set up open opportunities for everyone else when the defense collapses into the lane... Melo could easily be the beneficiary of that... he can also be used in the PnR when Amare is resting on the bench... he has that type of versatility & scoring ability... or he can get the ball in transition & hit a pull up midrange J before the other defense gets a chance to set up... this guy can score in so many different ways i think he gives MDA a lot of options as to ways of utilizing him other than just giving him the ball on iso's & letting him work to get off his shot.

i like the speed, athleticism, explosion & defense that Iggy bring, but at the end of the day i don't think he would make as big of an impact on this team as Melo would, which makes him option B for me out of all the realistic players we're talking about... who knows, maybe DW has some other player up his sleeve that no one's even talking about right now? wouldn't be shocking if he pulled someone from out of left field at the trade deadline that none of us even considered.

yes melo can score in a number of ways. i call him a ball stopper because the ball moves around and then comes to him and it stops almost always. same thing happens with amar'e except amar'e shoots a better percentage. melo takes too many perimeter shots to be as good.

at the end of the day, melo can easily put up the same numbers he did in denver in our system. that's not my problem. the question is woudl we be a better offense, imo, we would only be slightly better.

in other words, this next big piece has to either improve us on offense immensely as in make us the #1 efficient offense in the league while keeping our defense about the same or help us a little on offense and defense. i would personally go with the latter while i think melo would only be a slight help on offense.

Randolph and Curry for AV, Parker, and Boobs.