Iggy - can't really shoot but great defender. great at moving the ball. Kind of don't like the idea of taking Fields minutes away as it's looking more and more like he's a great fit as a starter in this offense as he doesn't need the ball to be effective.

Camby - Would love to have him, given the right price. Dude can still rebound and block shots. Perfect complement for Amare down low.

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:Plan B if Melo gets traded to the Nets.

Iggy - can't really shoot but great defender. great at moving the ball. Kind of don't like the idea of taking Fields minutes away as it's looking more and more like he's a great fit as a starter in this offense as he doesn't need the ball to be effective.

Camby - Would love to have him, given the right price. Dude can still rebound and block shots. Perfect complement for Amare down low.

sixers would have to give concessions to take iggy's contract. does philly have draft picks to give?

plus as you point out field's play is just just gutting the trade value of players from melo to iggy.

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fishmike wrote:As for Camby he would really help us he was made of glass at 26, what about at 36???

Camby only missed 8 games last year & hasn't missed any this year... if u think there are other guys that can get you 12 rebounds & 2 blocks a game out there, feel free to suggest them.

I dont! thats the point! Its really slim pickins when the best you can get is Camby who is a fart away from breaking a hip. It was less a knock on your suggesting then an observation on how limited the options seem. Dont be so paranoid

I thought after we got Amare a good and realistic target would be OK4. He doesnt need the ball, all his scoring is garbage points. He's got a servicable jumper and he's a top flight rebounder and defensive player. Of course it depends on the cost right? The hope is NO tanks and they want to dump his contract. I guess we wait and see.

I am more willing to suck it up this year and try to improve C next year (or just give Mos/AR/Jerome Jordan) more time to develop then I am to break up this core of 6-7 guys who are playing very well together

i've always thought OK4 would be a nice complement next to Amare too, but NOH is playing good ball these days & they aren't likely to want to break that up... if they go in the tank then who knows but my guess is they'll want to ADD to their team this year, not subtract.

a C who doesn't need the ball to contribute & plays well off the ball that won't clog up the lane for Amare is the perfect complement... other than Marcus Camby i don't see any others we can realistically target... Sammy Dalembert perhaps is another, but tell u the truth he strikes me as a low bball IQ type player that i'm not sure would be able to grasp this system all that well... on the plus side, he does have an expiring contract, so he's a low risk option if we take him on.

as for breaking up this current group, sure they're playing well now but when they're put up against the elite of the NBA during postseason play they will inevitably need upgrades at certain positions if they want to hope to compete, especially when they'll be seeing the same team night after night over a 7 game stretch, there is no taking a team by surprise... talent usually wins out in a playoff series.

we are looking the same guys...

Talent wins out in playoffs? Sometimes... for sure it does. But not unless that talent is backed with size, and you can see by this discussion along how hard size is to get, quality size that is.

Even Michael Jordan didnt win till they upgraded the froncourt. Best player ever couldnt win without the great rebounder and the big bodies

Its a deadhorse right now but if I could trade Gallo for Melo or Gallo for OK4 right now its OK4 easy.

Its also worth mentioning that Gallo/Chandler/Fields are 22ish and getting better. Thats the other part of the arguement that gets left out.

Michael Jordan played with role players in his frontcourt his entire career w/the Bulls... we already have a MUCH better PF on this roster in place than any bigman MJ ever played with... we need an elite scorer if we want to match up w/the elite teams in the NBA & Melo gives u that... u don't need a stud C to compete w/the top teams if u already have Amare doing the work downlow... just need some added depth & rebounding/shotblocking to complement Amare's game... u can get role players like that w/o having to deal away guys like Gallo or Wilson... i see no reason why we can't target Camby & still trade for Carmelo... we have the assets to do it... make those 2 moves & this team is an instant championship contender... that's CHAMPIONSHIP contender, not just playoffs... isn't that what we've all been looking for the past 10 years?

as for Gallo/Chandler/Fields being 22ish & getting better... Melo is 26 & already in his playing prime & will continue to be there for as long as we have Amare on this team & beyond... we'd be lucky if Gallo or Chandler ever sniff the level that Melo's at already, & i don't think anyone here advocates giving away all 3 of those guys to land Melo either.... NJ's offer of Favors, Harris & 2 future 1st rounders is completely worthless if Melo isn't willing to sign an extension with them... DEN isn't exactly in any position to be making demands on other teams gutting their roster to get Melo off their hands... if u give up Gallo & Wilson for Melo it's an absolute steal for the Knicks