umynot wrote:If you listen to interview on Mike the Mad Dog he said That what he believes is
Gallo was bothered by trade rumors.......

If that is the case it just shows how much he wants to STAY here.....
Kid is a passion only makes sense if he got off to a rough start which he did for it
to play with his head. ..... Shows he is human!!

Yet has still been a vital piece to our wins......

He has had a bad start to the year but stats show he is still even while playing bad he is
PRODUCTIVE

If thats the case, it means he's soft in the head and needs to get his mind right. Players deal with trade rumors all the time, that is no excuse.

fitzfarm wrote:how many games did ray shoot under 40 % when he was 22.... same with fisher..... i dont think anyone here is in the marbury era.... you need guys like gallo for the future and for the now....he is going to be really good this year... gallo is like a ticking time bomb he's going to go off. I and many other knick fans are very excited about this kid....

To answer your question here is a list of shooters and how they faired during the first 20 games of the season after turning 22

Dirk Nowitzki-19.3 points and 47%-5 games under 40%
Paul Pierce-18.9 pointes and 44%-8 games under 40%
Ray Allen-18.1 points and 45%-6 games under 40%
Mike Miller-16.3 points and 44%-7 games under 40%
Danilo Gallinari-15.5 points and 39%-11 games under 40%
Wilson Chandler-12.9 points and 39%-8 games under 40%
Chauncy Billups-12.1 points and 37%-10 games under 40%
Kevin Martin-5.3 pointse and 39%-11 games under 40%
Derek Fisher-4.0 points and 35%-11 games under 40%
Kyle Korver-2.0 points and 32%-8 games under 40%

When you compare Gallo to his peers and not some mythical creature that exists in yoru expectations you realize that he's doing pretty good for a guy in his 3rd year, 22 years old, who missed the majority of his first season.

Bippity10 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

umynot wrote:If you listen to interview on Mike the Mad Dog he said That what he believes is
Gallo was bothered by trade rumors.......

If that is the case it just shows how much he wants to STAY here.....
Kid is a passion only makes sense if he got off to a rough start which he did for it
to play with his head. ..... Shows he is human!!

Yet has still been a vital piece to our wins......

He has had a bad start to the year but stats show he is still even while playing bad he is
PRODUCTIVE

If thats the case, it means he's soft in the head and needs to get his mind right. Players deal with trade rumors all the time, that is no excuse.

You guys act like he slumped for a month of the season. He had a bad preseason and then struggled for 3 GAMES

Since that season long 3 GAME SLUMP he has averaged:

17.3 points, 5.2 rebounds, 42% FGA, 39% on 3's, 91% from the line, and has gone to the line nearly 7 times a game.

All this from a 3rd year player that just turned 22. What is the goshdamn complaint

To keep things in perspective Wilson Chandlers 1st 16 games of his 3rd season at 22 years old he averaged:

11.1 points, 5.2 rebounds, 38% FGA, 24% on 3's, 89% from the line, and went to the line 1.8 times a game
Fourth year, he's a completely different player

Look how much Wilson has grown. Stop basing your arguments on your own personal perceptions, expectations and bias and base it on real facts. For a guy whos at the beginning of his 3rd year after missing most of his 1st year, Gallo is progressing absolutely perfectly. Your bias is just making you miss it.

Since you quoted me, I assume you are directing your response to me. First, where am I being biased? I was simply responding to the idea that Gallo's struggles are a direct result of trade rumors affecting him. My reply was that players deal with trade rumors all the time so that is no excuse to use for Gallo. Thats it!!!!!. It seems as if you had some things to get off your chest but you may have quoted the wrong post. Nowhere in my comments do I offer a stance on Gallo's play one way or the other. Again not sure why you quoted me.

Uptown wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

umynot wrote:If you listen to interview on Mike the Mad Dog he said That what he believes is
Gallo was bothered by trade rumors.......

If that is the case it just shows how much he wants to STAY here.....
Kid is a passion only makes sense if he got off to a rough start which he did for it
to play with his head. ..... Shows he is human!!

Yet has still been a vital piece to our wins......

He has had a bad start to the year but stats show he is still even while playing bad he is
PRODUCTIVE

If thats the case, it means he's soft in the head and needs to get his mind right. Players deal with trade rumors all the time, that is no excuse.

You guys act like he slumped for a month of the season. He had a bad preseason and then struggled for 3 GAMES

Since that season long 3 GAME SLUMP he has averaged:

17.3 points, 5.2 rebounds, 42% FGA, 39% on 3's, 91% from the line, and has gone to the line nearly 7 times a game.

All this from a 3rd year player that just turned 22. What is the goshdamn complaint

To keep things in perspective Wilson Chandlers 1st 16 games of his 3rd season at 22 years old he averaged:

11.1 points, 5.2 rebounds, 38% FGA, 24% on 3's, 89% from the line, and went to the line 1.8 times a game
Fourth year, he's a completely different player

Look how much Wilson has grown. Stop basing your arguments on your own personal perceptions, expectations and bias and base it on real facts. For a guy whos at the beginning of his 3rd year after missing most of his 1st year, Gallo is progressing absolutely perfectly. Your bias is just making you miss it.

Since you quoted me, I assume you are directing your response to me. First, where am I being biased? I was simply responding to the idea that Gallo's struggles are a direct result of trade rumors affecting him. My reply was that players deal with trade rumors all the time so that is no excuse to use for Gallo. Thats it!!!!!. It seems as if you had some things to get off your chest but you may have quoted the wrong post. Nowhere in my comments do I offer a stance on Gallo's play one way or the other. Again not sure why you quoted me.

#1-And my response was "what struggles"? He had 3 bad games. If a guy is upset about trade rumors and then bounces back after 3 games is that really mental weakness? If you look at the numbers there is a perception that he struggled for a long time(a perception that has been developed because he also struggled during preseason) but it was literally 3 games. So my response to you was about the "struggles" portion of your post.

#2-The rest of the reply was not directed at you. I do not think you are biased. The rest of my post was directed at a couple others on the site(John Wallace in particular) that attack this kid with a vengeance but don't really base their analysis of his game on anything other then unmet personal expectations. So sorry if you were confused. I combine posts, because people yell at me when I have 2 or 3 posts back to back. See people, this is what happens

Bippity10 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

umynot wrote:If you listen to interview on Mike the Mad Dog he said That what he believes is
Gallo was bothered by trade rumors.......

If that is the case it just shows how much he wants to STAY here.....
Kid is a passion only makes sense if he got off to a rough start which he did for it
to play with his head. ..... Shows he is human!!

Yet has still been a vital piece to our wins......

He has had a bad start to the year but stats show he is still even while playing bad he is
PRODUCTIVE

If thats the case, it means he's soft in the head and needs to get his mind right. Players deal with trade rumors all the time, that is no excuse.

You guys act like he slumped for a month of the season. He had a bad preseason and then struggled for 3 GAMES

Since that season long 3 GAME SLUMP he has averaged:

17.3 points, 5.2 rebounds, 42% FGA, 39% on 3's, 91% from the line, and has gone to the line nearly 7 times a game.

All this from a 3rd year player that just turned 22. What is the goshdamn complaint

To keep things in perspective Wilson Chandlers 1st 16 games of his 3rd season at 22 years old he averaged:

11.1 points, 5.2 rebounds, 38% FGA, 24% on 3's, 89% from the line, and went to the line 1.8 times a game
Fourth year, he's a completely different player

Look how much Wilson has grown. Stop basing your arguments on your own personal perceptions, expectations and bias and base it on real facts. For a guy whos at the beginning of his 3rd year after missing most of his 1st year, Gallo is progressing absolutely perfectly. Your bias is just making you miss it.

Since you quoted me, I assume you are directing your response to me. First, where am I being biased? I was simply responding to the idea that Gallo's struggles are a direct result of trade rumors affecting him. My reply was that players deal with trade rumors all the time so that is no excuse to use for Gallo. Thats it!!!!!. It seems as if you had some things to get off your chest but you may have quoted the wrong post. Nowhere in my comments do I offer a stance on Gallo's play one way or the other. Again not sure why you quoted me.

#1-And my response was "what struggles"? He had 3 bad games. If a guy is upset about trade rumors and then bounces back after 3 games is that really mental weakness? If you look at the numbers there is a perception that he struggled for a long time(a perception that has been developed because he also struggled during preseason) but it was literally 3 games. So my response to you was about the "struggles" portion of your post.

#2-The rest of the reply was not directed at you. I do not think you are biased. The rest of my post was directed at a couple others on the site(John Wallace in particular) that attack this kid with a vengeance but don't really base their analysis of his game on anything other then unmet personal expectations. So sorry if you were confused. I combine posts, because people yell at me when I have 2 or 3 posts back to back. See people this is what happens

You say what struggles?

@Boston 0-6 2pts (benched)
Portland 2-9 4pts (benched)
@Milwaukee 1-9 5pts
Atlanta 2-6 4pts
@Charlotte 2-9 9pts
Nets 3-11 13pts

Now I admitt, I dont have alot of confidence in the idea that Gallo will be much better than he is now, but the fact that he is young (22) does mean that there should be room to improve.

If he is mentally strong, then people on this board and MDA for that matter need to stop with the trade rumors affecting his play BS. Lets stop with the excuse making and just say he had bad games.

Vmart wrote:What people here don't seems to understand is that Gallo, seems to forget his formula of success. Gallo always manages to go away from the game that has brought him success to revert to the three point jacking player that he craves to be. That is the maddening part of his game that leaves any fan shaking his head. The fact that he can put so much pressure on the opposing team but he seems to bail them out with jacking threes.

I think this is where you are wrong. I think everyone understands taht this is what Gallo does and I think everyone is left shaking their heads and frustrated. This is exactly why most 22 year olds are not stars in the NBA. They are all trying to figure it out. That's where Gallo is right now. Have to be patient. Now at 25 if this pattern is still there, then you obviously have a flawed player. But at 22, this is no surprise. The biggest knock against Ray Allen in college and his first 3 seasons in the NBA was that he relied on his jumper too much, didn't use his athleticism to get to the line and floated in and out of games.

Let the kids grow

Uptown wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

umynot wrote:If you listen to interview on Mike the Mad Dog he said That what he believes is
Gallo was bothered by trade rumors.......

If that is the case it just shows how much he wants to STAY here.....
Kid is a passion only makes sense if he got off to a rough start which he did for it
to play with his head. ..... Shows he is human!!

Yet has still been a vital piece to our wins......

He has had a bad start to the year but stats show he is still even while playing bad he is
PRODUCTIVE

If thats the case, it means he's soft in the head and needs to get his mind right. Players deal with trade rumors all the time, that is no excuse.

You guys act like he slumped for a month of the season. He had a bad preseason and then struggled for 3 GAMES

Since that season long 3 GAME SLUMP he has averaged:

17.3 points, 5.2 rebounds, 42% FGA, 39% on 3's, 91% from the line, and has gone to the line nearly 7 times a game.

All this from a 3rd year player that just turned 22. What is the goshdamn complaint

To keep things in perspective Wilson Chandlers 1st 16 games of his 3rd season at 22 years old he averaged:

11.1 points, 5.2 rebounds, 38% FGA, 24% on 3's, 89% from the line, and went to the line 1.8 times a game
Fourth year, he's a completely different player

Look how much Wilson has grown. Stop basing your arguments on your own personal perceptions, expectations and bias and base it on real facts. For a guy whos at the beginning of his 3rd year after missing most of his 1st year, Gallo is progressing absolutely perfectly. Your bias is just making you miss it.

Since you quoted me, I assume you are directing your response to me. First, where am I being biased? I was simply responding to the idea that Gallo's struggles are a direct result of trade rumors affecting him. My reply was that players deal with trade rumors all the time so that is no excuse to use for Gallo. Thats it!!!!!. It seems as if you had some things to get off your chest but you may have quoted the wrong post. Nowhere in my comments do I offer a stance on Gallo's play one way or the other. Again not sure why you quoted me.

#1-And my response was "what struggles"? He had 3 bad games. If a guy is upset about trade rumors and then bounces back after 3 games is that really mental weakness? If you look at the numbers there is a perception that he struggled for a long time(a perception that has been developed because he also struggled during preseason) but it was literally 3 games. So my response to you was about the "struggles" portion of your post.

#2-The rest of the reply was not directed at you. I do not think you are biased. The rest of my post was directed at a couple others on the site(John Wallace in particular) that attack this kid with a vengeance but don't really base their analysis of his game on anything other then unmet personal expectations. So sorry if you were confused. I combine posts, because people yell at me when I have 2 or 3 posts back to back. See people this is what happens

You say what struggles?

@Boston 0-6 2pts (benched)
Portland 2-9 4pts (benched)
@Milwaukee 1-9 5pts
Atlanta 2-6 4pts
@Charlotte 2-9 9pts
Nets 3-11 13pts

Now I admitt, I dont have alot of confidence in the idea that Gallo will be much better than he is now, but the fact that he is young (22) does mean that there should be room to improve.

If he is mentally strong, then people on this board and MDA for that matter need to stop with the trade rumors affecting his play BS. Lets stop with the excuse making and just say he had bad games.

You are cherry picking games to say he's struggling this season when I just presented you with a myriad of stats that show you that he's doing pretty damn well for a guy in his 3rd year. But I guess you need more.

in his first 20 games at 22 years old Kevin Martin
1-5 3 pts
1-3 6 pts
1-6 4 pts
1-5 5 pts
2-6 4 pts

Chauncey Billups
2-11 11 pts
0-5 1 pt
1-6 5 pts
2-10 12 pts
1-8 2 pts
3-12 14 pts

Amare Stoudemire-has had games of 9,8,7,6, 6,6 and 5 turnovers this year. Does that mean that Amare has "struggled" this year? It's easy to cherry pick stats.

Are these "struggles" we need to be concerned with or reality that faces the vast majority of players at the age of 22. He's not Larry Bird, Magic Johnson or even Ray Allen so we need to stop comparing him to them. If you look at the numbers he's had 6 games where he has shot poorly and about 15 games where he has PLAYED Well and been a major contributor. This notion that he has struggled this year is an absolute falsehood