crzymdups wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:we dont need any more shot blocking

we need a reliable big that comes off the bench who can score and a healthy azu--then this team wins 50 games and goes far in the playoffs.

I swear to you that is AR's destiny. he will break out one of these days. I think he'll be a top-8 rotation player by january.

he'll even throw in some shotblocking.

With Walsh, Amare, Felton, (maybe MDA?) this is like a real team and a normal team where the young guys need to earn it in practice then in the spot minutes they get here and there.

I agree and hope the same... that would be a HUGE boost for us

His on-court demeanor on game day was the absolute worst I have ever seen from a professional athlete.

Good Riddance.

freeskier wrote:

subzero0 wrote:

TMS wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:Milicic accepted responsibility for not working hard enough once he fell out of favor with the team last season and apologized to D'Antoni and his brother, assistant coach Dan D'Antoni.
"I said 'It didn't work out,'" Milicic said. "I wished it worked out. I loved New York. I thought it was going to work out but when I got there and saw how it was going to be it wasn't for me. For me, last year I needed a lot of playing time to get my confidence back. Here it's different, this year I came in shape."

"I tell (Mozgov) to do the opposite like I did," Milicic said. "I don't know how it will be for him, if he plays a lot. When I didn't play, I stepped aside. You need to work a lot and I didn't do it. If he doesn't play, practice hard."

His numbers this year have nothing to do with last years minutes

from his quote, his numbers had everything to do with his minutes last year... he came in with a good outlook but saw right away that he wasn't going to get any playing time, so he started to slack off... his attitude sucked that much he admitted to, but one can easily argue that if he knew he'd be a part of the regular rotation, that the effort would have been there in practice... personally i think MDA played Fishlips way too many minutes last year & a big chunk of those minutes could easily have been divvy'd up between Darko & Jordan Hill, especially in a season where shotblocking was our obvious glaring need all year.

+1

Good post TMS. I agree with you here. I believe that confidence has a lot to do with your production out there on the basketball court. If his coach gave him minutes and confidence last year, he would have done better. I like D'Antoni as a coach but he seems to have this habit of just dumping guys and burying them on the bench too quickly for my taste. If you play a guy like Mozgov a lot of minutes and he makes mistakes, then good, let him learn from his mistakes. Dont bury him on the bench. Burying guys on the bench doesnt make them better, it makes them worse.

fact is darko wasn't motivated last season, this year he is. blame can probably go to both parties. bip, i get what you're trying to say, but this isn't a black and white issue. all of darko's pre-season quotes last year had him really excited to play in NY. once the season began you could tell something wasn't working out. personalities? laziness? i don't know, we don't have that kind of access. on the other hand bender was clearly "connected" and got a chance because of that; i don't mind, i think he was worth a shot.

good to see some people can see the situation for what it was... everyone gets so damn defensive whenever someone criticizes anything MDA does around here... appreciate the feedback.

Bippity10 wrote:

TMS wrote:

freeskier wrote:

subzero0 wrote:

TMS wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:Milicic accepted responsibility for not working hard enough once he fell out of favor with the team last season and apologized to D'Antoni and his brother, assistant coach Dan D'Antoni.
"I said 'It didn't work out,'" Milicic said. "I wished it worked out. I loved New York. I thought it was going to work out but when I got there and saw how it was going to be it wasn't for me. For me, last year I needed a lot of playing time to get my confidence back. Here it's different, this year I came in shape."

"I tell (Mozgov) to do the opposite like I did," Milicic said. "I don't know how it will be for him, if he plays a lot. When I didn't play, I stepped aside. You need to work a lot and I didn't do it. If he doesn't play, practice hard."

His numbers this year have nothing to do with last years minutes

from his quote, his numbers had everything to do with his minutes last year... he came in with a good outlook but saw right away that he wasn't going to get any playing time, so he started to slack off... his attitude sucked that much he admitted to, but one can easily argue that if he knew he'd be a part of the regular rotation, that the effort would have been there in practice... personally i think MDA played Fishlips way too many minutes last year & a big chunk of those minutes could easily have been divvy'd up between Darko & Jordan Hill, especially in a season where shotblocking was our obvious glaring need all year.

+1

Good post TMS. I agree with you here. I believe that confidence has a lot to do with your production out there on the basketball court. If his coach gave him minutes and confidence last year, he would have done better. I like D'Antoni as a coach but he seems to have this habit of just dumping guys and burying them on the bench too quickly for my taste. If you play a guy like Mozgov a lot of minutes and he makes mistakes, then good, let him learn from his mistakes. Dont bury him on the bench. Burying guys on the bench doesnt make them better, it makes them worse.

fact is darko wasn't motivated last season, this year he is. blame can probably go to both parties. bip, i get what you're trying to say, but this isn't a black and white issue. all of darko's pre-season quotes last year had him really excited to play in NY. once the season began you could tell something wasn't working out. personalities? laziness? i don't know, we don't have that kind of access. on the other hand bender was clearly "connected" and got a chance because of that; i don't mind, i think he was worth a shot.

good to see some people can see the situation for what it was... everyone gets so damn defensive whenever someone criticizes anything MDA does around here... appreciate the feedback.

Sensitive? or just explaining their point of view like you are.

I'm pretty sure that if we had a "sensitive off" between the two of us, you would blow me away.

i wasn't directing any malice towards u w/that comment... i think we've had a good back & forth on this thread... i was making that more a general statement, around here people do seem to get very defensive whenever someone criticizes something MDA does... seems like ur the one getting sensitive here... sure, i get sensitive in threads when it comes to topics like racism or when people twist my words to mean something i never intended... i've been posting on the same forums as you have for many years & you're lying if you're gonna tell me u don't do the same when those comments are directed at you.

Bippity10 wrote:

TMS wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

TMS wrote:

freeskier wrote:

subzero0 wrote:

TMS wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:Milicic accepted responsibility for not working hard enough once he fell out of favor with the team last season and apologized to D'Antoni and his brother, assistant coach Dan D'Antoni.
"I said 'It didn't work out,'" Milicic said. "I wished it worked out. I loved New York. I thought it was going to work out but when I got there and saw how it was going to be it wasn't for me. For me, last year I needed a lot of playing time to get my confidence back. Here it's different, this year I came in shape."

"I tell (Mozgov) to do the opposite like I did," Milicic said. "I don't know how it will be for him, if he plays a lot. When I didn't play, I stepped aside. You need to work a lot and I didn't do it. If he doesn't play, practice hard."

His numbers this year have nothing to do with last years minutes

from his quote, his numbers had everything to do with his minutes last year... he came in with a good outlook but saw right away that he wasn't going to get any playing time, so he started to slack off... his attitude sucked that much he admitted to, but one can easily argue that if he knew he'd be a part of the regular rotation, that the effort would have been there in practice... personally i think MDA played Fishlips way too many minutes last year & a big chunk of those minutes could easily have been divvy'd up between Darko & Jordan Hill, especially in a season where shotblocking was our obvious glaring need all year.

+1

Good post TMS. I agree with you here. I believe that confidence has a lot to do with your production out there on the basketball court. If his coach gave him minutes and confidence last year, he would have done better. I like D'Antoni as a coach but he seems to have this habit of just dumping guys and burying them on the bench too quickly for my taste. If you play a guy like Mozgov a lot of minutes and he makes mistakes, then good, let him learn from his mistakes. Dont bury him on the bench. Burying guys on the bench doesnt make them better, it makes them worse.

fact is darko wasn't motivated last season, this year he is. blame can probably go to both parties. bip, i get what you're trying to say, but this isn't a black and white issue. all of darko's pre-season quotes last year had him really excited to play in NY. once the season began you could tell something wasn't working out. personalities? laziness? i don't know, we don't have that kind of access. on the other hand bender was clearly "connected" and got a chance because of that; i don't mind, i think he was worth a shot.

good to see some people can see the situation for what it was... everyone gets so damn defensive whenever someone criticizes anything MDA does around here... appreciate the feedback.

Sensitive? or just explaining their point of view like you are.

I'm pretty sure that if we had a "sensitive off" between the two of us, you would blow me away.

i wasn't directing any malice towards u w/that comment... i think we've had a good back & forth on this thread... i was making that more a general statement, around here people do seem to get very defensive whenever someone criticizes something MDA does... seems like ur the one getting sensitive here... sure, i get sensitive in threads when it comes to topics like racism or when people twist my words to mean something i never intended... i've been posting on the same forums as you have for many years & you're lying if you're gonna tell me u don't do the same when those comments are directed at you.

I can't believe you just said that to me. Can't say I'm ever going to talk to you again. Have a nice life

you big baby

TMS wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

TMS wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

TMS wrote:

freeskier wrote:

subzero0 wrote:

TMS wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:Milicic accepted responsibility for not working hard enough once he fell out of favor with the team last season and apologized to D'Antoni and his brother, assistant coach Dan D'Antoni.
"I said 'It didn't work out,'" Milicic said. "I wished it worked out. I loved New York. I thought it was going to work out but when I got there and saw how it was going to be it wasn't for me. For me, last year I needed a lot of playing time to get my confidence back. Here it's different, this year I came in shape."

"I tell (Mozgov) to do the opposite like I did," Milicic said. "I don't know how it will be for him, if he plays a lot. When I didn't play, I stepped aside. You need to work a lot and I didn't do it. If he doesn't play, practice hard."

His numbers this year have nothing to do with last years minutes

from his quote, his numbers had everything to do with his minutes last year... he came in with a good outlook but saw right away that he wasn't going to get any playing time, so he started to slack off... his attitude sucked that much he admitted to, but one can easily argue that if he knew he'd be a part of the regular rotation, that the effort would have been there in practice... personally i think MDA played Fishlips way too many minutes last year & a big chunk of those minutes could easily have been divvy'd up between Darko & Jordan Hill, especially in a season where shotblocking was our obvious glaring need all year.

+1

Good post TMS. I agree with you here. I believe that confidence has a lot to do with your production out there on the basketball court. If his coach gave him minutes and confidence last year, he would have done better. I like D'Antoni as a coach but he seems to have this habit of just dumping guys and burying them on the bench too quickly for my taste. If you play a guy like Mozgov a lot of minutes and he makes mistakes, then good, let him learn from his mistakes. Dont bury him on the bench. Burying guys on the bench doesnt make them better, it makes them worse.

fact is darko wasn't motivated last season, this year he is. blame can probably go to both parties. bip, i get what you're trying to say, but this isn't a black and white issue. all of darko's pre-season quotes last year had him really excited to play in NY. once the season began you could tell something wasn't working out. personalities? laziness? i don't know, we don't have that kind of access. on the other hand bender was clearly "connected" and got a chance because of that; i don't mind, i think he was worth a shot.

good to see some people can see the situation for what it was... everyone gets so damn defensive whenever someone criticizes anything MDA does around here... appreciate the feedback.

Sensitive? or just explaining their point of view like you are.

I'm pretty sure that if we had a "sensitive off" between the two of us, you would blow me away.

i wasn't directing any malice towards u w/that comment... i think we've had a good back & forth on this thread... i was making that more a general statement, around here people do seem to get very defensive whenever someone criticizes something MDA does... seems like ur the one getting sensitive here... sure, i get sensitive in threads when it comes to topics like racism or when people twist my words to mean something i never intended... i've been posting on the same forums as you have for many years & you're lying if you're gonna tell me u don't do the same when those comments are directed at you.

I can't believe you just said that to me. Can't say I'm ever going to talk to you again. Have a nice life

you big baby

Now you've really done it. I take away the have a nice life and will reduce it to have a nice week

TMS wrote:

Marv wrote:

Bip, i think Marv just took a veiled dig at your mom w/that clip... you gonna take that?

Unfortunately I'm onsite right now and behind a firewall and can't view the video/picture. I should say fortunately for Marv