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11/17/2010  8:21 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/17/2010  8:22 AM
A change of coach can really happen if MDA doesn't change his coaching strategy. In the second half of last night's game, we were driving to the basket more and the team responded. So a good change. We almost won the game. MDA has also extended his usually tight rotation by playing 9 and 10 men/game this entire season. However, if he has truly lost the team, then he will be gone soon.

The replacement coach will need to have established coaching skills. It won't be Mark Jax, even though I do relate to his first name.

JVG is a possibility, IMO, if Dolan steps away from the Knicks.
Ewing? I don't think so. It would seem too much like a publicity move.

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11/17/2010  8:45 AM
Mark Jackson would be perfect

Forget the bench experience. Broadcasting the entire season allows a unique perspective, and the volumes of intern research, to study league wide trends and personnel.

You ever been in one of those broadcast production trucks?

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11/17/2010  8:53 AM
misterearl wrote:Mark Jackson would be perfect

Forget the bench experience. Broadcasting the entire season allows a unique perspective, and the volumes of intern research, to study league wide trends and personnel.

You ever been in one of those broadcast production trucks?

how can you say that translates to head coaching success? there’s so much more that goes into determining a successful head coach at this level , wouldn’t you say earl? what are you specifically seeing in jax that makes you predict success for him versus any other announcer?

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11/17/2010  8:57 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/17/2010  8:59 AM
misterearl wrote:Mark Jackson would be perfect

Forget the bench experience. Broadcasting the entire season allows a unique perspective, and the volumes of intern research, to study league wide trends and personnel.

You ever been in one of those broadcast production trucks?


No, but I have done PR and dealt a little with radio/tv talk show hosts. The good ones are very bright, but they are in the entertainment industry. Not in the action on the court. It's a different mentality and a different skill set.

I am not saying Mark Jax can't be a good coach. But he has to get some experience and show what he can do as a coach before I would hire him to coach the most intensely scrutinized NBA team and organization.

Marv,
how can you say that translates to head coaching success? there’s so much more that goes into determining a successful head coach at this level , wouldn’t you say earl? what are you specifically seeing in jax that makes you predict success for him versus any other announcer?

Marv, totally agree with you.
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11/17/2010  9:15 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/17/2010  10:04 AM
Marv - I see the same raw qualities in Mark Jackson that Donnie Walsh saw in Landry Fields. The same quality it requires to play the point. Leadership. Inteligence. Passion. Style. Decisiveness. Flair.

What am I specifically seeing in jax that makes me predict success for him versus any other announcer?

The mere fact he understands the angles, is a a perfect age (45) to respect old school and relate to new school, played for the Knicks, and is from New York, is good enough for me.

Hell, Yogi Berra did not have one minute of managerial or base coaching experience before he took over the Yankees

Look at his positives. He posted up guards, which tells us he will rein in all the SSOL three point nonsense that is killing the Knicks on a nightly basis. He backed so many down opposing point guards into the paint, the league had to change the rules (the Five-second rule aka the "Mark Jackson Rule," prohibiting an offensive player from dribbling with his back to the basket for more than 5 consecutive seconds when below the free throw line). Jax was a winner. He got out the broom.

Why not Mark Jackson?

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11/17/2010  10:00 AM
Tommy is thinking about George Karl. UNC guy who doesn't have a contract past this season. His source is the anesthesiologist who did the hip surgery.
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11/17/2010  10:02 AM
Vmart wrote:Tommy is thinking about George Karl. UNC guy who doesn't have a contract past this season. His source is the anesthesiologist who did the hip surgery.

interesting. Do Karl and Melo get along? Are they tight?

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11/17/2010  10:04 AM
martin wrote:
Vmart wrote:Tommy is thinking about George Karl. UNC guy who doesn't have a contract past this season. His source is the anesthesiologist who did the hip surgery.

interesting. Do Karl and Melo get along? Are they tight?

I don't know if they are tight. I wouldn't mind Karl though I think he is a very good coach.

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11/17/2010  10:10 AM
Vmart wrote:
martin wrote:
Vmart wrote:Tommy is thinking about George Karl. UNC guy who doesn't have a contract past this season. His source is the anesthesiologist who did the hip surgery.

interesting. Do Karl and Melo get along? Are they tight?

I don't know if they are tight. I wouldn't mind Karl though I think he is a very good coach.

can't wait to see George Karl's face when he finds out Isiah's still lurking around this franchise & in Dolan's ear.

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11/17/2010  10:11 AM
Vmart wrote:
martin wrote:
Vmart wrote:Tommy is thinking about George Karl. UNC guy who doesn't have a contract past this season. His source is the anesthesiologist who did the hip surgery.

interesting. Do Karl and Melo get along? Are they tight?

I don't know if they are tight. I wouldn't mind Karl though I think he is a very good coach.

Karl is a great coach, but man I can't stand his personality. I don't think he'd do well in NY with his attitude and arrogance, kinda like MDA.

I think Mark Jackson would do very well here.

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11/17/2010  10:13 AM
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crzymdups wrote:JVG would win 50 games with this team. The talent is here. The current coach refuses to coach the team on the floor. He's trying to make this team play like it's the 2006 Suns.

Hubie Brown would win 50 games here with this squad.

Not sure about Mark Jackson... but I'm getting more and more curious.

I totally agree. We have a load of big long players and we play like everyone on the floor is a SG. We showed last night we can work the glass, we block tons of shots, we can play defense and we can sure as hell score on the break. Yet we keep taking these 3's. Its like a vacation for the opposing defense.

There seems to be no concentration on doing what this team does well. What we DONT do well is shoot the 3, yet we continue to take 30 a game and there is a lot of standing around on offense

Yep yep yep.

If we had a coach that could cater to the talent we have here... it could be a very good squad. We actually DO have the makings of a great defense and the makings of a great offense, but the way these guys are being used right now is just not right. The 3 ball offense is so stupid for this team. It makes ZERO sense.

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11/17/2010  10:16 AM
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crzymdups wrote:wilson just tweeted this...

wilson_chandler

No G Money ****, all we got is us!

about 1 hour ago via ÜberTwitter
Retweeted by Amareisreal and 2 others

LOL what does it mean?

also, it's a New Jack City quote, i believe.

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11/17/2010  10:20 AM
crzymdups wrote:wilson just tweeted this...

wilson_chandler

No G Money ****, all we got is us!

about 1 hour ago via ÜberTwitter
Retweeted by Amareisreal and 2 others

This means the fans aren't even with us, the team is all we have going forward.

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11/17/2010  10:23 AM
Vmart wrote:
crzymdups wrote:wilson just tweeted this...

wilson_chandler

No G Money ****, all we got is us!

about 1 hour ago via ÜberTwitter
Retweeted by Amareisreal and 2 others

This means the fans aren't even with us, the team is all we have going forward.

i don't get the fans aren't with us part... the fans pack MSG every night even though the team has stunk for the past 6 years.

i take it more to mean that he's saying they can't look for help from anywhere else or any friends on other teams right now, they gotta just do it on their own.

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11/17/2010  10:24 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/17/2010  10:26 AM
Ewing will never head coach the Knicks. Never had a great relationship with the media or fans. No reason to destroy the little enough good will he presently enjoys here.

I think Patrick is probably a very good assistant coach and can do that for a long long time in this league. But if he wants to make the leap to head coach he should probably be building a resume in the D-league first.
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Scary thought. What if MDAs replacement were Bill Laimbeer. What would that suggest about who Donnie's eventual successor might be?

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11/17/2010  10:25 AM
Make it a Ewing doing, bring back the Big Fella
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11/17/2010  10:31 AM
just saw on ESPN..we are the first team to lose a game after having more rbs, less TO's more block shots, more ast..

make our FT's this thread wouldn't be here..

I think MDA is doing an ok job, AR waa jacking up the same jumpers in GS, we have jump shooters that are not hitting there shots..bottom line. i don't cae how much talent we have, nothing beats chemistry.

Despite the 3's the ending #s stated we should have beat denver. we don't have the luxary of shooting anything less the 80% from the Ft line. We have to capitlize were we can. knicks took 98 shots, 31 3's, thats roughly 30 pct of your offense...thats not that bad from a jump shooting team..

I agree with MDA, we have shown that we can hit three's, why stop, adventually, they will start to fall, and the confindence will start to build.

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11/17/2010  10:37 AM
knicks1248 wrote:just saw on ESPN..we are the first team to lose a game after having more rbs, less TO's more block shots, more ast..

make our FT's this thread wouldn't be here..

I think MDA is doing an ok job, AR waa jacking up the same jumpers in GS, we have jump shooters that are not hitting there shots..bottom line. i don't cae how much talent we have, nothing beats chemistry.

Despite the 3's the ending #s stated we should have beat denver. we don't have the luxary of shooting anything less the 80% from the Ft line. We have to capitlize were we can. knicks took 98 shots, 31 3's, thats roughly 30 pct of your offense...thats not that bad from a jump shooting team..

I agree with MDA, we have shown that we can hit three's, why stop, adventually, they will start to fall, and the confindence will start to build.

i couldn’t disagree with you more. it's the ultimate fool's gold. this team will die by the 3, not thrive by it. It rots the offensive chemistry, deters movement and kills the hustle and spirit of the team.

Did I mention I don’t like all the 3’s?

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11/17/2010  10:54 AM
Marv wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:just saw on ESPN..we are the first team to lose a game after having more rbs, less TO's more block shots, more ast..

make our FT's this thread wouldn't be here..

I think MDA is doing an ok job, AR waa jacking up the same jumpers in GS, we have jump shooters that are not hitting there shots..bottom line. i don't cae how much talent we have, nothing beats chemistry.

Despite the 3's the ending #s stated we should have beat denver. we don't have the luxary of shooting anything less the 80% from the Ft line. We have to capitlize were we can. knicks took 98 shots, 31 3's, thats roughly 30 pct of your offense...thats not that bad from a jump shooting team..

I agree with MDA, we have shown that we can hit three's, why stop, adventually, they will start to fall, and the confindence will start to build.

i couldn’t disagree with you more. it's the ultimate fool's gold. this team will die by the 3, not thrive by it. It rots the offensive chemistry, deters movement and kills the hustle and spirit of the team.

Did I mention I don’t like all the 3’s?

What made you think things would change this year, you thought MDA would say "no more three's guy's Im done with that system".

MDA was a Euro player/coach, and thats what he know's best, thats what he teach's.

You think Phil jackson is going to say, "the hell with the triangle lets just play hard" just becuase the team can't get it right. Be for real.. We lack a 2nd star, and a prime time PG, the coach is the least of the problems.

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11/17/2010  10:55 AM
knicks1248 wrote:just saw on ESPN..we are the first team to lose a game after having more rbs, less TO's more block shots, more ast..

make our FT's this thread wouldn't be here..

I think MDA is doing an ok job, AR waa jacking up the same jumpers in GS, we have jump shooters that are not hitting there shots..bottom line. i don't cae how much talent we have, nothing beats chemistry.

Despite the 3's the ending #s stated we should have beat denver. we don't have the luxary of shooting anything less the 80% from the Ft line. We have to capitlize were we can. knicks took 98 shots, 31 3's, thats roughly 30 pct of your offense...thats not that bad from a jump shooting team..

I agree with MDA, we have shown that we can hit three's, why stop, adventually, they will start to fall, and the confindence will start to build.

This was one of the worst officiated games. Do you realize if denver hits their free throws at 75-80% clip this game is a blow out. They shot worse than the Knicks 66%.

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