jrodmc wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

BasketballJones wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:
Ironically this thread has gone a long way in helping me to up my current post count.

You find this funny? This thread was supposed to be about Jeremy Lin (whoever he is) and you've turned into a thread about you.

That's how dominant of a poster I am.

And for the record, I am in no way upset that we missed out on Jeremy Linn

Ball hog, and he's also an asian racist (asiaphobe?)
Had to make sure the thread reverts back to Bip.

martin's promised to get my member# down to single digits if I keep bating Bip.

I am unbaitable. Just like Jeremy Lin. And like Jeremy Linn

jrodmc wrote:

TMS wrote:

jrodmc wrote:For someone with 18 times the post count of Bip, you sure don't read for comprehension, do you?

these are your exact words, not mine:

He's a traveling freak show. Nothing against him, he sounds like your normal Jesus-loving Harvard educated future pastor, but the guy's doomed to not living up to the berzerk pressure the fellow members of his race are shoving down his throat, let alone the home town frenzy.

sorry but you have absolutely no idea wtf you're talking about... ain't no Asians i know of out there talking up Jeremy Lin as the second coming & expecting huge things out of him... the kid is an end of the bench backup who gets limited run... not comparable to guys like Yao, Ichiro, Matsui, etc. who are the tops among Asian athletes that actually do get pressure from their fellow Asians.

i responded to you respectfully & you chose to come back at me with some backhanded insult about my post count & reading comprehension skills... maybe you were beat up a lot as a child, that would probably explain your anger... it's time to let the painful past go & embrace tomorrow.

Here's also what I said, which you conveniently (respectfully?) didn't include in your response:

jrodmc wrote:Hello Hideki Irabu. I guess this lets you know how talented people like Wong or Godzilla or Ichiro are. Yao gets a pass because no matter how many hundreds of millions of fans you have to carry, there's not much to add to being 8 feet tall and actually being able to run and shoot.

Here's what you originally replied with:

TMS wrote:right now the lone figures in American watched sports you can point to with the pressure of the Asian race coming down on them are Yao Ming, Yuna Kim (Korean figure skater), Ichiro Suzuki & Hideki Matsui.

Now, I will type slowly, and respectfully, and inform you directly now that you repeated almost person for person my exact original sentence: Godzilla = Matsui (which anyone who did know wtf they were talking about would know), and Ichiro = Ichiro, and Yao = Yao Ming. See?

And to further my point, and maybe you might want to increase your vast circle of "Asians you know" so you can expand your level of wtf you're talking about:

He has stepped into a world he did not prepare for and does not want, and the burden appears obvious. It's not just Lin either. A coach with decades of experience as a player and working on the bench -- Keith Smart -- is also feeling the pressure. Smart knows a thing or two about peer pressure, he can hear the fans cheers as well, so imagine life for a soft-spoken 22-year-old who wants to fit in as one of the guys and prove he can earn his way on the roster. Instead, he gets a second quarter of driving the lane and dishing to no one and the crowd groaning, and a second quarter of loud cheers for swishing free throws that got the Warriors within 38-33 of the Trail Blazers, and a fourth quarter of crowd noise rising in anticipation when he gets the ball for out on the perimeter in garbage time.

"We're on the road, I put him in the game, and the crowd is the same way," Smart said. "Every place he goes, he's going to get that."

It's not just the angle, then, of the kid on the team he grew up rooting for 35 miles down San Francisco Bay in Palo Alto. That might account for a lot of the attention around Oracle Arena, but if Lin is already getting it out of town, that's different.

It's the ethnic angle. Lin was born near Los Angeles, but his parents are from Taiwan and spoke Mandarin and English as Jeremy grew up in Palo Alto, and welcome to the potential marketing machine. He is unique enough as an Asian-American rising to rare basketball prominence. But to have it happen in the Bay Area, home to a large population with an Asian background means that whole one-of-the-guys thing was gone before it started.

He was an undrafted rookie who had a press conference after signing. Lin and Stephen Curry, coming off a second-place finish for Rookie of the Year and a gold medal in the world championships, get more interview requests than any Warrior. Team officials, already concerned about protecting him and trying to keep his focus on basketball, routinely deny interview requests. People have approached him about being the subject of documentaries. A paper from Taiwan dispatched a reporter to spend several days with him."It took a little getting used to, just because I haven't proven anything to anybody," Lin said. "I'm just trying to glorify God in everything I do with my attitude and to stay humble and not let any of this stuff off the court affect how I approach the game on the court.

"I think that's tricky, because on one hand you want to be able to focus and play your game and to have the distractions left on the side. But at the same time, to be able to have that type of support is unbelievable. I don't think anybody would be, 'I wouldn't want that.' Especially in the Asian-American community. The support that they've given me has been off the charts. I appreciate that. But then at the same time, it's like everything I do is going to be under a microscope. It comes with the territory. I'm very thankful for it. I want to be in that position to be a role model and try to be a role model to the young Asian-Americans growing up and what not."

He didn't expect it to be this frenzied. Lin thought he had parlayed an impressive summer-league showing into a deal with the Mavericks or maybe the Lakers, but then the Warriors jumped in late and he couldn't turn that down. That's the thing -- he made the decision to play in his hometown, knowing the prominence of the Asian-American community. He wasn't drafted by the Warriors. It's just that it is much more than anyone anticipated.

"And that's where myself and the staff have to keep relaxing him," Smart said. "We've got to keep teaching him in situations. Knowing when you want to drive it, make sure there's space. Now there's no space, just be a playmaker. From that standpoint, we've got to keep teaching him. We've got to take the heat off. There was a game here at home, I put him in the game too soon because I kind of gave into the crowd. I said I'll never do that again. I'll make sure he's in a good situation first so that even if he makes a mistake in that situation, it's not an 8-0 run and the team gets back in the game. I've got to be conscious of that and not get caught up into the crowd."

There is a special uniqueness to Lin anyway, an NBA player with a fearless, attacking game to offset a lack of point-guard skills and a Harvard degree in economics who one day wants to be a pastor doing non-profit work in under-privileged communities. That's not a bad story, either. For now, though, it's somewhere far down on the check list of what everyone notices.
Local kid. Asian-American. Undrafted. Harvard.
"I think it's different," Lin said of his background, smiling.
Enough all at once to weigh like a burden.
"I think a little bit," Smart said. "One, he wants to prove to the world that he can play. But now you have -- I've never seen it."
The hoped-for chance to fit in like any other underdog scrapping his way to a job never happened. That was lost in an unusual spotlight that started when he signed and has continued through a most unexpected of exhibition seasons. He knows that just by standing up. ---- NBA.com
And I never did get beat up as a kid, I embrace and am always thankful for yesterday, today and tomorrow, so maybe you should take your own advice and stick to things you do know something the f about.

Here endeth the lesson.

{Note to martin: I should get 10 post credits for this one}

go ahead & keep assuming every Asian expects huge things out of Jeremy Lin... just because he garnered curiosity & attention from the Taiwanese press doesn't mean he's getting pressure to succeed... he's an end of the bench scrub at this point... as difficult as it may be for you to fathom, Asians are well aware of this fact as well... just because he made an NBA roster doesn't mean we all expect him to be Magic Johnson Taiwanese Lite... there are Asian athletes that DO get the pressure of an entire nation laid upon their shoulders like the ones you mentioned (& yes, I agreed with, no freakin kidding when did i ever contest you on their mention?)... Jeremy Lin is not being held up as the figurehead for Taiwanese sports... if anyone fits that mold it would be Chien Ming Wang, & that's only because he was actually good... maybe in the future if Lin develops into a real player & starts to put up big numbers for an NBA team, we can talk, but right now he's nothing but an end of the bench backup that no Asian I know of is getting excited about... of course Asians in his home town & country are pulling for him, but that's not the same as pressuring him to be great... but hey, maybe i do need to expand my circle of Asian friends... i guess you're the authority on all things Asian because of some article you read on the internet so i'll have to defer to your expert knowledge on the topic.

itchetrigr wrote:Interesting Google results

Yi Jianlian About 190,000 results (0.05 seconds)

Chien Ming Wang About 318,000 results (0.14 seconds)

Yao Ming About 2,680,000 results (0.07 seconds)

Jeremy Lin About 3,590,000 results (0.08 seconds)

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