I find myself in the unusual perverse position to root for the Celts.

Miami will be good. Got kinks and line up to figure out. Arroyo is brain dead.

martin wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:What a mess for miami

Realistically you have three primary scorers in their prime on one team. Isnt going to work I dont know if you can do 2 Alpha Dogs. Look how balanced Boston is--they spent their offseason filling in their depth(which was the reason why they didnt win it all) Thats why i don't think Carmelo and Amare on one team will work--especially if you thin it down. It sounds good but it would end up bad. I like what we did. If a guy or two had a bad pre-season or they dont fit--then we can adjust with moves. I think we can upgrade along the way here during the year and that doesnt mean CA. There is no team that wins with two primary scorers--it creates poor chemistry.

Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen say hello.

What are you 19n years old--how the hll could you have seen these guys in their prime--number 1 Scottie Pippen was NOT a primary scorer MJ was the only alpha scorer on that team # 2 that team had every part--it was a full team

How do you define primary scorer? Scottie Pippen is a top 50 NBA player and amazing scorer. If he wasn't on the Bulls he would be the primary scorer. That's how I define it.

Stop attacking me like an ahole all the time. It's getting old. Especially when you keep bringing up my age and subsequently making me younger every time you do. It's lame and pathetic. End it.

Im not attacking you--Im asking you how could you see MJ and Scottie if you are 19 years old--that was near 12 years ago when they last won it. And if you actually saw them play you wouldnt have brought that up in the first place!

I'm not 19 years old and I've seen them play many times.

I brought it up because it is a valid argument.

But keep believing that we're better off without a perennial NBA all-star.

my man, the last time Jordan and Pippen played together was 1997-1998. Which is like 12 years ago. And you are 21, which is not very far off from 19.

Which means you are trying to convince us that at 9 years old or less you had any clue what was going on on the basketball court.

Any of the above far off?

Why don't you be straight-forward about what you are claiming?

Pippen wasn't a primary scorer on the Bulls, Portland or Houston. But he was a top 50 player cause of his defense, scoring, ball handling, and assist #s.

Bro, I've watched their games.

Do you have to be 35 years old to have seen an old basketball game? I've seen all the old Knicks playoff games and many other games. I know what I am talking about and it has nothing to do with age. I'd appreciate if you would stop bringing that up and making it an issue each time something like this comes up.

Pippen on Portland and Houston was an old man. I am saying that prime Pippen would have been a primary scorer on another franchise because he was a fantastic talent and scorer. He wasn't a primary scorer on the Bulls because he couldn't be.

The Heat will only have one primary scorer and that will be LeBron.

Bosh is useless inside against the bigger teams. He gets swallowed up with a big team like the C's. Bosh wants no part of KG and Shaq inside and I think this is gonna be an issue for this team against bigger teams.

celtics are a well oiled (old) machine, with new additions that are vets, yet not the primary offensive focus.

miami is basically a brand new team with two of its top 3 guns having only played together in practice and pre-season for a month...and really, since that's the case it's really all 3 that have to define roles.

folks are kidding themselves if they can take too much from this, which most pundits love to do to create great drama (that isn't really there).

the celts are older and have played together for the most part so they don't need to figure much out to start off. they are ready to roll.

give miami 30 games and i don't care if the celts even have a better record. we've seen the celtics break down over the past two years, and i expect it more this year, yet they will still be a top east team.

old as aristotle (shaq) in game 1 is not the same as shaq in game 75.

meanwhile ain't no way we are gonna see bosh score 8 and wade score 13.

these are two of the best at their positions.

meanwhile lebron showed us what he is capable of, and when they figure it out as the season goes on i still expect them to scrape the league.

p.s. they don't need a real point guard.

Im tempted to watch them run over Philly tomorrow but the Knicks and Bucks play so that is a no go.

metra wrote:

martin wrote:he did indeed scored a lot of points that year and was also their top scorer. Look more closely at that roster and ask yourself who else was going to lead the team.

You could make the same argument about Bosh for most years in Toronto.

Im down with that. Plus he's a *****.

Childs2Dudley wrote:

martin wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:Bro, I've watched their games.

Do you have to be 35 years old to have seen an old basketball game? I've seen all the old Knicks playoff games and many other games. I know what I am talking about and it has nothing to do with age. I'd appreciate if you would stop bringing that up and making it an issue each time something like this comes up.

at 21 you are still trying to figure out how to not get banned from multiple Knicks boards. It's not an age thing but rather a maturity thing. You put yourself out there.

What does this even mean and what does this have to do with the subject at hand in regards to basketball knowledge?

And in regards to bans, all I'll say is that it was never warranted. Not in my book and not when people have done way worse than me and are still around. And those people are so-called "grown men". But I digress.

My age isn't important when discussing basketball knowledge because I have studied the game more than people who are 10, 20, 30, 40 years older than me. Knowledge is not always based on how many years you've been alive.

dude, this is the one time where your age would come in. Watching Pippen and Jordan actually play together would set you back more than a decade ago. All you had to do was just acknowledge that even at your young age, pretty damn close to 19, you have watched a TON of Knicks-Bulls and plenty of other Bulls basketball in your mom's basement and then back it up with just one hint of stats where Pippen didn't play with Jordan.

But you didn't.

And you still have no clue, even at your advanced age of 21, what is wrong with your own attitude that would get you banned from multiple boards and most likely multiple times from multiple boards.

I agree they will improve and will probably impress before long. I think there will be trouble getting all three to mesh and someone will have to defer but they can change that according to who the opponent is and who has the hot hand.

The lack of supporting cast will hurt them. It was also cool to see Shaq energized, he is old but I love the guy. He fits in perfectly with the Celtics.

My biggest concern after this game is how the Knicks are going to put it together this year. We still need some pieces and I agree that gutting the team for melo would be a mistake. You need a well rounded full roster.

martin wrote:

metra wrote:

martin wrote:he did indeed scored a lot of points that year and was also their top scorer. Look more closely at that roster and ask yourself who else was going to lead the team.

You could make the same argument about Bosh for most years in Toronto.

Im down with that. Plus he's a *****.

Bosh looked like a ninny out there tonight. I'm so glad we got Amar'e over him.