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NO WAY will we beat the Heat if we give up a ton of assets for Melo
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islesfan
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10/7/2010  10:53 AM
It's beyond ridiculous how most of you overvalue players already wearing Knicks jerseys. Chandler is another brain fart away from being a throwaway piece. They should make him play games on adderall. Gallinari is not the next Larry Bird or Dirk Nowitzki. He's a good spot up shooter but lacks a position because of his lack of athleticism and skills. AR is an athletic freak that is nothing more than a defensive role player on a good team.

Melo is an honest to goodness star in this league and gives us a talent at forward that we haven't seen since Bernard King. The idea is to add the best pieces possible, not guys that you hope can be a lot more than they currently are. It's unfathomable that people don't want to add a key building block because they don't want to get rid of role players.

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10/7/2010  10:56 AM
islesfan wrote:It's beyond ridiculous how most of you overvalue players already wearing Knicks jerseys. Chandler is another brain fart away from being a throwaway piece. They should make him play games on adderall. Gallinari is not the next Larry Bird or Dirk Nowitzki. He's a good spot up shooter but lacks a position because of his lack of athleticism and skills. AR is an athletic freak that is nothing more than a defensive role player on a good team.

Melo is an honest to goodness star in this league and gives us a talent at forward that we haven't seen since Bernard King. The idea is to add the best pieces possible, not guys that you hope can be a lot more than they currently are. It's unfathomable that people don't want to add a key building block because they don't want to get rid of role players.

what's up bro? haven't seen you in awhile, good to see you posting.

i agree with you 100% about melo - i just don't think it's prudent for us to trade any of our pieces for him if we can just sign him in the offseason. it's known the knicks are far and away his #1 option, so we bid against ourselves and trade players that would be great role players next to him and amare?

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islesfan
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10/7/2010  11:04 AM
nyk4ever wrote:
islesfan wrote:It's beyond ridiculous how most of you overvalue players already wearing Knicks jerseys. Chandler is another brain fart away from being a throwaway piece. They should make him play games on adderall. Gallinari is not the next Larry Bird or Dirk Nowitzki. He's a good spot up shooter but lacks a position because of his lack of athleticism and skills. AR is an athletic freak that is nothing more than a defensive role player on a good team.

Melo is an honest to goodness star in this league and gives us a talent at forward that we haven't seen since Bernard King. The idea is to add the best pieces possible, not guys that you hope can be a lot more than they currently are. It's unfathomable that people don't want to add a key building block because they don't want to get rid of role players.

what's up bro? haven't seen you in awhile, good to see you posting.

i agree with you 100% about melo - i just don't think it's prudent for us to trade any of our pieces for him if we can just sign him in the offseason. it's known the knicks are far and away his #1 option, so we bid against ourselves and trade players that would be great role players next to him and amare?

I completely agree that if it's possible, they should just wait and sign him as a FA. Although it's highly likely that there would be a sign and trade where these same Knicks players would be traded anyway.

If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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10/7/2010  11:23 AM
islesfan wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
islesfan wrote:It's beyond ridiculous how most of you overvalue players already wearing Knicks jerseys. Chandler is another brain fart away from being a throwaway piece. They should make him play games on adderall. Gallinari is not the next Larry Bird or Dirk Nowitzki. He's a good spot up shooter but lacks a position because of his lack of athleticism and skills. AR is an athletic freak that is nothing more than a defensive role player on a good team.

Melo is an honest to goodness star in this league and gives us a talent at forward that we haven't seen since Bernard King. The idea is to add the best pieces possible, not guys that you hope can be a lot more than they currently are. It's unfathomable that people don't want to add a key building block because they don't want to get rid of role players.

what's up bro? haven't seen you in awhile, good to see you posting.

i agree with you 100% about melo - i just don't think it's prudent for us to trade any of our pieces for him if we can just sign him in the offseason. it's known the knicks are far and away his #1 option, so we bid against ourselves and trade players that would be great role players next to him and amare?

I completely agree that if it's possible, they should just wait and sign him as a FA. Although it's highly likely that there would be a sign and trade where these same Knicks players would be traded anyway.

I am in your guys camp. Get Melo without giving up too much or sign him as a FA. Howevr, it is obvious from last night's game that we need another star player - especially a scorer from the wing. Someone who can come through in crunch time. Melo would be good, but only at a fair to low price. What Denver's asking is way too high.
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10/7/2010  12:00 PM
Can't wait for next year when you guys won't want to trade Landry Fields or Timofey Mozgov for Chris Paul. LOL
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10/7/2010  12:16 PM
iSergio wrote:Can't wait for next year when you guys won't want to trade Landry Fields or Timofey Mozgov for Chris Paul. LOL

Chris Who???

All right, just kidding. But for these next 2 years, I would take Nash over CP3.

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10/7/2010  12:42 PM
Trade Gallo and Felton at the deadline.

Starting 5 for Round 1 of playoffs

Douglas
JR Smith
Carmelo
Stat
Randolph

Thats a great team

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10/7/2010  12:51 PM
Mozzy89 wrote:Trade Gallo and Felton at the deadline.

Starting 5 for Round 1 of playoffs

Douglas
JR Smith
Carmelo
Stat
Randolph

Thats a great team

Please explain how you will get Carmelo and JR for just Gallo and Felton...

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10/7/2010  1:33 PM
Mozzy89 wrote:Trade Gallo and Felton at the deadline.

Starting 5 for Round 1 of playoffs

Douglas
JR Smith
Carmelo
Stat
Randolph

Thats a great team

Low IQ team that gets knocked out first round

Rose is not the answer.
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10/7/2010  1:33 PM
Career shooting percentages

Dwayne wade 48.4
Lebron James 47.1
Carmelo Anthony 46.0
Kobe Bryant 45.5
Kevin Durant 45.3

I just hope that people will like me
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10/7/2010  2:19 PM
Bippity10 wrote:Career shooting percentages

Dwayne wade 48.4
Lebron James 47.1
Carmelo Anthony 46.0
Kobe Bryant 45.5
Kevin Durant 45.3

If all you are doing is scoring, you better score 50% or better. All those other players blow Melo out of the water in defensive categories

Rose is not the answer.
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10/7/2010  2:43 PM
knickstorrents wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:Career shooting percentages

Dwayne wade 48.4
Lebron James 47.1
Carmelo Anthony 46.0
Kobe Bryant 45.5
Kevin Durant 45.3

If all you are doing is scoring, you better score 50% or better. All those other players blow Melo out of the water in defensive categories

Over the course of a season how many wings and 2 guards that are responsible for scoring all their teams points end up shooting over 50%? And why are we acting like all he does is score. The guy is one of the leagues best rebounding SF, a solid passer, gets to the line almost 8 times a game for his career, and averages over a steal a game. Not to mention the fact that he scores 25 a game on 45% shooting. Any wings on our team do that in the last 20 years.Not sure who you guys are comparing him too. Compare him to his peers not some mythical player. No he isn't as good as Lebron or Kobe but he isn't that far behind. There aren't that many that put up those types of numbers.

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10/7/2010  2:50 PM
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10/7/2010  5:20 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/7/2010  5:24 PM
iSergio wrote:Can't wait for next year when you guys won't want to trade Landry Fields or Timofey Mozgov for Chris Paul. LOL

I already don't want to trade either of them. They are cheap with plenty of upside potential. Not saying I don't want CP3 b/c I certainly do, even more than Melo. But I wouldn't trade those guys for him. We need Melo to sign as a FA if we are going to have a shot at a "tres amigos" setup like Miami. After that, we can talk who must go to land CP3. But again, he would have the same leverage as Melo - say it's "New York or I walk" and see what NO decides to do.

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10/7/2010  5:21 PM
knickstorrents wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:Career shooting percentages

Dwayne wade 48.4
Lebron James 47.1
Carmelo Anthony 46.0
Kobe Bryant 45.5
Kevin Durant 45.3

If all you are doing is scoring, you better score 50% or better. All those other players blow Melo out of the water in defensive categories

Not to mention setting up other scorers.

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10/7/2010  5:59 PM
Papabear Says

What assets?? If they continue to play the way they are playing no one will want them anyway.

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10/8/2010  3:25 AM
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knickstorrents wrote:46% sucks for a primary option, especially for a forward. Steve Nash shoots at a higher percentage than Melo.

Nash is also never double teamed. He isn't looked to score. His points come with the threat of his passing ability taken into consideration. If 46% is bad than Kobe must suck.

Durant must suck too considering he averages 46% shooting over his 3 year career.

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10/8/2010  3:27 AM
iSergio wrote:Can't wait for next year when you guys won't want to trade Landry Fields or Timofey Mozgov for Chris Paul. LOL

who needs Chris Paul when Ray Felton is gonna put up 16 & 10 this year.

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10/8/2010  7:56 AM
If we can make the moves to become the 2nd best team in the east then I think we are in great shape. We don't have to match up player by player to the heat. I'm not convinced Wade and bosh will stay healthy year in and year out. They may be on certain years but are prone to break down and when they do we will be the team to beat.
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10/8/2010  8:59 AM
Moonangie wrote:
iSergio wrote:Can't wait for next year when you guys won't want to trade Landry Fields or Timofey Mozgov for Chris Paul. LOL

I already don't want to trade either of them. They are cheap with plenty of upside potential. Not saying I don't want CP3 b/c I certainly do, even more than Melo. But I wouldn't trade those guys for him. We need Melo to sign as a FA if we are going to have a shot at a "tres amigos" setup like Miami. After that, we can talk who must go to land CP3. But again, he would have the same leverage as Melo - say it's "New York or I walk" and see what NO decides to do.

This board gets more and more crazy by the day. LOL Please never admit to anyone that you wouldn't trade Timofey Mozgov and Landry Frields for Chris Paul. I fear for your safety if you were to admit this at the Garden or at a bar full of Knicks fans.

NO WAY will we beat the Heat if we give up a ton of assets for Melo

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