AnubisADL wrote:I was also hyped on Frye. Dude was beasting before he got hurt. Fact is guys relapse and their value falls off like crazy.

I really liked frye.. I think the knee injury really hurt his development.. He came back a bit tentative and not really the same player.. I think that hurt his development and somewhat changed the type of player he was or was on his way to being..

crzymdups wrote:Forget this trade talk. Our best lineup deserves a chance to play on the floor before we think about changing anything.

Felton
Azubuike/Chandler
Gallo
Amare
AR

Let's go to war.

Olbrannon wrote:this just in-

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/kat-stacks-files-police-report-against-carmelo-anthony.php?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

"By John Krolik
Earlier this week, Nuggets (for the time being) small forward Carmelo Anthony found himself involved in a bizarre controversy involving twitter, Anthony's wife La La Vasquez, and Kat Stacks, who is apparently an internet groupie of some description.

Essentially, Anthony tweeted that he would give $20,000 dollars to anyone who would "slap the (expletive) out of Stacks," right as Vasquez was tweeting about her disdain for Stacks and saying that her husband was on "a twitter roll." (Here's a helpful recap of the events, courtesy of SB Nation's Andrew Sharp.)

Carmelo is now claiming that his twitter account was hacked, but Stacks is apparently not buying it, as she tweeted that she filed a police report on Anthony a few hours ago. We'll keep you updated if this turns into a significant issue for Anthony. "

do some reading up on Kat Stacks & you'll know why people wanna kick the snot outta her... girl is trippin' for real.

i am never one to advocate violence on a female, but this girl deserves a serious smackdown for the stuff she's doing out there, preferably from another chick like Baby D

looks like 1 guy at least is looking to cash in on Melo's offer... Fabolous' brother that is (if you haven't seen the video it's up on YouTube, tho it's not SFW & definitely not something i condone as a man)

ATrain wrote:

crzymdups wrote:Forget this trade talk. Our best lineup deserves a chance to play on the floor before we think about changing anything.

Felton
Azubuike/Chandler
Gallo
Amare
AR

Let's go to war.

This makes no sense to me. Why would you want to put a young guy whose body is still developing at such a physically demanding position. Its like we're asking for him to get injured.

TMS wrote:

martin wrote:Give Melo: Lee, Hughes, Duhon, Jefferies and put him in the East and you think that gets to the playoffs?

Brandon Jennings got to the playoffs w/Bogut & a bunch of role players too... if u don't think Melo would have made the playoffs in the EC w/the players we had you're kidding yourself.

Depends who is coach would have been.

nixluva wrote:You think if AR starts that we'll be playing Man to man D? It's gonna be some kind of mix of different types of Zones. In fact MDA's defense is basically always a play off your man and in the passing lanes type of D. He doesn't want bump and grind style of D that leads to lots of fouls. He wants to keep the pace of the game as fast as possible. If you foul a lot trying to bang with a team, it's only gonna slow the game down and give them High % FT's. MDA wants low percentage jumpers from deep. So he's gonna do whatever he has to do, to keep teams out of the paint without fouling all the time. That means he plays a very athletic team with TONS OF LENGTH and QUICKNESS. He wants tipped passes and steals, blocks and long rebounds off missed jumpers. If he can turn the other team into a jump shooting team that is what favors the Knicks. This means using zones and hybrid defenses that simulate zones.

In essence you want to give help that forces a team to pick up the dribble. The faster your lineup is the better they can switch and get out to shooters after doubling a post threat or penetrator. Now if you have Amar'e, Gallo, AR, Chandler and Felton out there, you have a VERY fast and long team. Gallo is the slowest, but since he's so long it gives him the ability to recover and use that length. He blocked like 50 shots last year and I think he'll get even better with Amar'e, AR and Chandler out there, who all block shots very well.

It's not like AR will be left out on an island to guard the toughest bigs. He'll have Amar'e, Chan and Gallo backing him up. It really could work depending on just how much he's built up his body. I'd like to see.

knicks1248 wrote:

franco12 wrote:

TMS wrote:

martin wrote:Give Melo: Lee, Hughes, Duhon, Jefferies and put him in the East and you think that gets to the playoffs?

Brandon Jennings got to the playoffs w/Bogut & a bunch of role players too... if u don't think Melo would have made the playoffs in the EC w/the players we had you're kidding yourself.

Depends who is coach would have been.

Melo is not a leader nor a point guard, so the playoffs would have still been a long shot with that roster, without those 2 key elements in MDA's system 30-35 wins top.

please.

CrushAlot wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

sidsanders wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:whats really getting to me is that, the fans seem more optimistic about this roster then the coach...that ain't good..

could be just coach speak... could be he is really trying to temper expectations as well.

Well he said the same thing the last 2 seasons...thats the scary part. There's no question the roster has been upgraded, but when i listen to to MDA, you would swear were rolling into the season with same exact roster. MDA, as we all know, doesn't do well with youth, and low IQ players, maybe thats why he isn't that impress, or as excited as the fans.

I wouldn't categorize the guys D'Antoni needs as high IQ. I think he needs marquee players to win. He needs guys that can win despite his short practices, lack of game planning, lack of communication, lack of scouting opponents, lack of defenisve adjustments for individual opponents, and a lack of any emphasize on defense. D'Antoni needs an elite leader and player that can communicate his expectations on and off the court and create a professional atmosphere in practice and on the court. He got an elite player in Amare but I don't think he is the guy D'Antoni needs. I think he will be a leader but I think D'Antoni needs more than that.

I think this is a huge year for D'Antoni. He either becomes much less rigid, changes and adapts or he is done. Walsh has done his job and he tried to do it last year but the guys he brought in to fill roles were not played or developed.

I think I agree 100% with your thinking here- do you think MDA could get sacked mid year?

TMS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

franco12 wrote:

TMS wrote:

martin wrote:Give Melo: Lee, Hughes, Duhon, Jefferies and put him in the East and you think that gets to the playoffs?

Brandon Jennings got to the playoffs w/Bogut & a bunch of role players too... if u don't think Melo would have made the playoffs in the EC w/the players we had you're kidding yourself.

Depends who is coach would have been.

Melo is not a leader nor a point guard, so the playoffs would have still been a long shot with that roster, without those 2 key elements in MDA's system 30-35 wins top.

please.

Don't get so touchy. You're point is every bit as valid or invalid. At first I wanted the guy, but after thinking of it, the guy isn't even worth touching. He doesn't fit with Amar'e in any sense, nor does he fit with Raymond Felton, and if the basketball gods shined on us, he wouldn't fit with Chris Paul down the road either. He's a top flight scorer that doesn't play defense, and he's going to need the ball for the large portion of the game. That's not how this team is constructed.

And you can't say "Oh you MAKE it work" because no matter how much you forse it, it wouldn't work.

iSergio wrote:So realistically, what kind of stats are you all expecting from Amar'e Stoudemire, Danilo Gallinari and Anthony Randolph?

I say ...

Stoudemire - 23 ppg, 9 rpg, 1.5 bpg
Gallo - 15 ppg, 5 rpg
Randolph - 12 ppg, 8 rpg, 2 bpg

I agree with fishmike that wins and how the team plays together are far more important than stats.

Also, I expect more improvement from Gallinari. You're basically putting the exact same stats those guys put up last year. I expect more from Gallo and possibly AR. Amare will probably be about the same, but his scoring might go up as he's more of a go to guy here.

franco12 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

sidsanders wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:whats really getting to me is that, the fans seem more optimistic about this roster then the coach...that ain't good..

could be just coach speak... could be he is really trying to temper expectations as well.

Well he said the same thing the last 2 seasons...thats the scary part. There's no question the roster has been upgraded, but when i listen to to MDA, you would swear were rolling into the season with same exact roster. MDA, as we all know, doesn't do well with youth, and low IQ players, maybe thats why he isn't that impress, or as excited as the fans.

I wouldn't categorize the guys D'Antoni needs as high IQ. I think he needs marquee players to win. He needs guys that can win despite his short practices, lack of game planning, lack of communication, lack of scouting opponents, lack of defenisve adjustments for individual opponents, and a lack of any emphasize on defense. D'Antoni needs an elite leader and player that can communicate his expectations on and off the court and create a professional atmosphere in practice and on the court. He got an elite player in Amare but I don't think he is the guy D'Antoni needs. I think he will be a leader but I think D'Antoni needs more than that.

I think this is a huge year for D'Antoni. He either becomes much less rigid, changes and adapts or he is done. Walsh has done his job and he tried to do it last year but the guys he brought in to fill roles were not played or developed.

I think I agree 100% with your thinking here- do you think MDA could get sacked mid year?