iSergio wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

iSergio wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

iSergio wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

ATrain wrote:

iSergio wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:The only player I would take over Gallo is Durant. I hate the Queen and I like Gallo's ceiling to Anthony's current state.

LMAO! WOW ...

I like Gallo but I LOL'd at that too.

I don't want LeCon I hate him with a passion. I would rather have Gallo's potential than Anthony right now. Anthony I think is below Wade and LeCon.

Pierce is too old. Anybody else in that list?

That's embarrassing. Thank God you're not our GM.

Really. Well thank you for the in depth analysis of why my post is embarassing. I posted my views as to why I prefer Gallo over everyone else except for Durant.

I think that Michael Jordan was the best player to ever live but I hate that fooker with a passion. I would never want that jackarse to wear orange and blue. Same with Reggie Miller. I hate him and I would not trade Hubert Davis for him.

For Carmelo Anthony. I was convinced with the previous thread about his value. He is a gunner in the truest sense and I value Gallo's skills and ability than Carmelo's scoring.

Pierce is old. You telling me you would trade Gallo for Pierce?

Granger, Iggy and Wallace? Really?

Durant is the only one I would take over Gallo.

Did I mention how much I hate LeDouche?

You wouldn't have hated LeCon if he chose us so stop it. And I'm sorry, saying Kevin Durant is the only player you would trade Danilo Gallinari for is insane. He's not Larry Bird or Dirk Nowitzki. He'll be lucky to be Detlef Schrempf or Toni Kukoc. I don't get why some are so attached to this guy. It's not like Gallo is this franchise 'can't miss' talent. You treat him like he's Patrick Ewing or something. It's ridiculous. He's been here really only one year and posted 15/5 on a 29 win team. What's the big deal? He's not even that good. Do you watch other teams? Danny Granger, Andre Iguodala and Gerald Wallace are 100x better than Gallo.

Did you understand why I hate LeCon? I made a comparison to Jordan and my hatred for that man and that I would not want him in a knick uniform. Ever. I am not sure if you were able to watch Jordan in the 90's but I think any(most) fan in this board who saw that man torture us would agree with me. My hatred with LeDouche is not just him not picking us. I would have been fine wherever he went, but his actions is just down right douchey. I would rather cheer for my scrubs than that jackarse.

Why is Granger, Iggy and Wallace 100x better than Gallo? I have seen their play. I am not impressed. They are more in Wilson Chandler's level than Gallo. All 3 are not playmakers. 7 seconds left in the game and we need a bucket. Do you want the ball in Gallo's hand? I do.

I guess you have a crystal ball on Gallo's future. Oh, and if Gallo becomes Schrempf or Kukoc then I am OK with that. Detlef is a 3x all-star and winner of 6th man of the year and was selected All-NBA 3rd team once. Kukoc was 3 time NBA champion, won various MVP titles in europe and won the NBA 6th man award.

LOL

Danny Granger - 24.1 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 2.8 apg, 1.5 spg, 0.8 bpg
Andre Iguodala - 17.1 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 5.8 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.7 bpg
Gerald Wallace - 18.2 ppg, 10.0 rpg, 2.1 apg, 1.5 spg, 1.1 bpg

Danilo Gallinari - 15.1 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 1.7 apg, 0.9 spg, 0.7 bpg

It's not even close. And Wilson Chandler is not at that level either. Are we watching the same team?

And if there are 7 seconds left, no, I do not want the ball in Gallo's hands because he can't creat his own shot. He's a spot-up shooter or a driver ONLY if he's passed the ball in motion. Gallo is not an isolation scorer.

Funny you call Gallo a playmaker, yet he doesn't average more then 2 apg and can't get to the line more then 3.8 times.

Not everything is measured in numbers. You have to see potential, skill level and the intangibles. The way you judge your players is fine. You want numbers now. I look at players as a whole. Future, skill level, leadership, etc.. There were hundred of trades made in the past that if you look at current numbers looked ridiculous or as you would put it "LOL". Jermaine O'Neal comes to mind. He he had ok numbers in Portland but Donnie's eyes he showed a lot of promise. He was traded for All-Star Dale Davis and that trade came up roses for the Pacers.

Granger and Iggy in my opinion has reached their peak. Wallace is a role player. He would be a great supporting cast.
"He's a spot-up shooter or a driver ONLY if he's passed the ball in motion. Gallo is not an isolation scorer.". Why do I want an isolation player? Gallo is a playmaker. He will knock down the shot if left alone and he will drive to the basket and create when guarded closer to the vest. Not really sure why you think he is just a spot up shooter. He is an assasin with ice running through his veins. He wants to take the last shot. He man does not back down.

Just curious. What are Granger, Iggy and Wallace's numbers in their first couple of years in the league?

nixluva wrote:It's not fair to Gallo to judge what he is after basically 1 full season. I think he's got a ton of talent and will show more over the next few years. It's not gonna take much for him to reach that next level where Granger and Iggy are. He's got the talent and just needs more touches and to grow into his body. Last year he was weak from not having the benefit of an off season of training. I'm really curious to see if he's been able to get stronger this summer. It would seem natural for a young man who was still growing when we drafted him to get stronger as he matures.

I also think he showed glimpses of being more than just a spot up shooter last year. Once his body catches up to his skills he's gonna be a beast.

I was a little confused also when iSergio claimed that Gallo is just a spot up shooter.

Granger --  13.9 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 1.4 apg,  .8 spg,  .7 bpg (34 min)
Iggy ------ 12.3 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 3.1 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.3 bpg (38 min)
Wallace ---  4.7 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.5 apg, 0.5 spg, 0.3 bpg (12 min)
Gallo ----- 15.1 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 1.7 apg, 0.9 spg, 0.7 bpg (34 min)

Gallo's stats are incredibly close to Granger's.

nixluva wrote:

Ira wrote:Ok, Martin. Here goes. I used the second year instead of the rookie year and I included minutes played.

Granger -- 13.9 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 1.4 apg, .8 spg, .7 bpg (34 min)
Iggy ------- 12.3 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 3.1 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.3 bpg (38 min)
Wallace -- 4.7 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.5 apg, 0.5 spg, 0.3 bpg (12 min)
Gallo ----- 15.1 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 1.7 apg, 0.9 spg, 0.7 bpg (34 min)

Gallo's stats are incredibly close to Granger's.

No matter how you slice it, Gallo is a top talent in this league. He's just not fully cooked yet. You know the bird is done when the little red thing pops out!

PAUSE!!

NYKBocker wrote:

iSergio wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

iSergio wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

iSergio wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

ATrain wrote:

iSergio wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:The only player I would take over Gallo is Durant. I hate the Queen and I like Gallo's ceiling to Anthony's current state.

LMAO! WOW ...

I like Gallo but I LOL'd at that too.

I don't want LeCon I hate him with a passion. I would rather have Gallo's potential than Anthony right now. Anthony I think is below Wade and LeCon.

Pierce is too old. Anybody else in that list?

That's embarrassing. Thank God you're not our GM.

Really. Well thank you for the in depth analysis of why my post is embarassing. I posted my views as to why I prefer Gallo over everyone else except for Durant.

I think that Michael Jordan was the best player to ever live but I hate that fooker with a passion. I would never want that jackarse to wear orange and blue. Same with Reggie Miller. I hate him and I would not trade Hubert Davis for him.

For Carmelo Anthony. I was convinced with the previous thread about his value. He is a gunner in the truest sense and I value Gallo's skills and ability than Carmelo's scoring.

Pierce is old. You telling me you would trade Gallo for Pierce?

Granger, Iggy and Wallace? Really?

Durant is the only one I would take over Gallo.

Did I mention how much I hate LeDouche?

You wouldn't have hated LeCon if he chose us so stop it. And I'm sorry, saying Kevin Durant is the only player you would trade Danilo Gallinari for is insane. He's not Larry Bird or Dirk Nowitzki. He'll be lucky to be Detlef Schrempf or Toni Kukoc. I don't get why some are so attached to this guy. It's not like Gallo is this franchise 'can't miss' talent. You treat him like he's Patrick Ewing or something. It's ridiculous. He's been here really only one year and posted 15/5 on a 29 win team. What's the big deal? He's not even that good. Do you watch other teams? Danny Granger, Andre Iguodala and Gerald Wallace are 100x better than Gallo.

Did you understand why I hate LeCon? I made a comparison to Jordan and my hatred for that man and that I would not want him in a knick uniform. Ever. I am not sure if you were able to watch Jordan in the 90's but I think any(most) fan in this board who saw that man torture us would agree with me. My hatred with LeDouche is not just him not picking us. I would have been fine wherever he went, but his actions is just down right douchey. I would rather cheer for my scrubs than that jackarse.

Why is Granger, Iggy and Wallace 100x better than Gallo? I have seen their play. I am not impressed. They are more in Wilson Chandler's level than Gallo. All 3 are not playmakers. 7 seconds left in the game and we need a bucket. Do you want the ball in Gallo's hand? I do.

I guess you have a crystal ball on Gallo's future. Oh, and if Gallo becomes Schrempf or Kukoc then I am OK with that. Detlef is a 3x all-star and winner of 6th man of the year and was selected All-NBA 3rd team once. Kukoc was 3 time NBA champion, won various MVP titles in europe and won the NBA 6th man award.

LOL

Danny Granger - 24.1 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 2.8 apg, 1.5 spg, 0.8 bpg
Andre Iguodala - 17.1 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 5.8 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.7 bpg
Gerald Wallace - 18.2 ppg, 10.0 rpg, 2.1 apg, 1.5 spg, 1.1 bpg

Danilo Gallinari - 15.1 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 1.7 apg, 0.9 spg, 0.7 bpg

It's not even close. And Wilson Chandler is not at that level either. Are we watching the same team?

And if there are 7 seconds left, no, I do not want the ball in Gallo's hands because he can't creat his own shot. He's a spot-up shooter or a driver ONLY if he's passed the ball in motion. Gallo is not an isolation scorer.

Funny you call Gallo a playmaker, yet he doesn't average more then 2 apg and can't get to the line more then 3.8 times.

Not everything is measured in numbers. You have to see potential, skill level and the intangibles. The way you judge your players is fine. You want numbers now. I look at players as a whole. Future, skill level, leadership, etc.. There were hundred of trades made in the past that if you look at current numbers looked ridiculous or as you would put it "LOL". Jermaine O'Neal comes to mind. He he had ok numbers in Portland but Donnie's eyes he showed a lot of promise. He was traded for All-Star Dale Davis and that trade came up roses for the Pacers.

Granger and Iggy in my opinion has reached their peak. Wallace is a role player. He would be a great supporting cast.
"He's a spot-up shooter or a driver ONLY if he's passed the ball in motion. Gallo is not an isolation scorer.". Why do I want an isolation player? Gallo is a playmaker. He will knock down the shot if left alone and he will drive to the basket and create when guarded closer to the vest. Not really sure why you think he is just a spot up shooter. He is an assasin with ice running through his veins. He wants to take the last shot. He man does not back down.

Just curious. What are Granger, Iggy and Wallace's numbers in their first couple of years in the league?

To be honest with you, Gallo looks real good compared to the players when you consider his age, PER, true shooting percentage, minutes, number of shot attempts etc. I also don't think Gallo is the next Nowitzki, but I could see him developing at the level of Andre, Wallace and Granger. He's already more developed than Wallace on the offensive end. Granger doesn't seem all that different from Gallo offensively now. They are both tall wings that shoot a lot of threes.

Why? well because off the dribble, Jamal Crawford style, Gallo is just awful. He needs to post up smaller players better, even though he can shoot over them often.

He also is a terrible decision maker and passer when driving to the basket. That's when he throws up wild layups or kicks the ball out to a teammate's feet.

But really when you looks at the Mike DAntoni offense, it's the pick and roll with 3 shooters to open up the floor. And when you have Walker at 42%, Gallo at 38, Douglas at 39, Buke at 37 I think, and Mason JR who can shoot you can really spread the floor. Felton was even high 30's last year I believe.(That's all off memory so dont shoot me if I'm wrong)The 2 biggest components are the PG and PF/C, or whoever 2 players are running the pick and roll, because the whole play begins with them. It's 2 on 2 basketball until they bring a 3rd defender in to help and then you have shooters who are consistent and reliable. Point being, what we need Gallo for is to make his threes, play smart basketball, and ocassionally drive or something. Anything more than that is a bonus. I think this year depends more on Felton more than anything, unless of course we get Melo.