egelband wrote:

TMS wrote:

egelband wrote:When Denver had AI, did Melo play more efficiently?

the answer to that is no... his shot attempts actually increased on the average the year AI joined the squad.

Argh. That doesn't help my argument. But still, I think Melo would be a great fit.
:)

just curious, why do u feel he'd be a great fit? do u think MDA's system is relegated upon 1 guy dominating the offense taking 20+ shots from the perimeter?

TMS wrote:

franco12 wrote:

TMS wrote:Melo can hang with anyone in the game on the offensive end. he went toe to toe with Kobe in the WCF and almost willed his team to the upset. there's no way anyone can argue he's not a max type talent. however, u have to consider the team's need and the type of game we wanna implement. are we really better off with a high volume shooter who will take shot opportunities away from everyone else, or are we better off with someone who will get everyone else involved in the offense and be a leader on the floor? my vote goes to the latter.

I think Melo, if coached and put in a system that used him to run the offense, he would get team mates involved.

do u really think MDA is going to coach him the way you're looking for? he's going to give the guy free reign to launch shots all day, just like he did in Denver... nothing will change... he'll put up huge offensive stats, play no defense, & the rest of the guys on this team will be standing around twiddling their thumbs not expecting any balls to come their way.

Mike actually wouldn't want that at all. His system isn't built for lone wolf gunslingers. He wants the team to take great shots. Shots that are assisted and within the flow of the offense. Shots that aren't defended well and are in rhythm. I don't know if Melo can play that way, but if he came that's what Mike would want from him. His offense isn't really as free wheeling as it looks. The biggest mistake players make is that they think it's like Nelson or Karl's offense and it's more about creating mismatches and open shots with picks, motion and passing done at high speed, so the defense can't react. You have to be able to anticipate and read what the defense does and then attack the opening you know will be there, because it's almost impossible for any defense to protect against the speed of the ball and a spread floor. This ain't Cleveland, Wash. or Atlanta's offense, that's for sure. Melo would have to adjust. Can he... I don't know, but I haven't gotten the impression he's uncoachable.

CP3 wouldn't have to change a thing really. He'd be basically a better version of Nash in this offense. The only issue in Melo vs. CP3 is cost in terms of personnel.

TMS wrote:

egelband wrote:

TMS wrote:

egelband wrote:When Denver had AI, did Melo play more efficiently?

the answer to that is no... his shot attempts actually increased on the average the year AI joined the squad.

Argh. That doesn't help my argument. But still, I think Melo would be a great fit.
:)

just curious, why do u feel he'd be a great fit? do u think MDA's system is relegated upon 1 guy dominating the offense taking 20+ shots from the perimeter?

I'm not an expert on D'antonis system but I do think a championship team needs diversity on offence.
I see Melo as a playmaker who can finish. There aren't that many of them out there. And I don't see
one on the Knicks yet. He would fill that role.
There aren't a ton of them available and I also think Melo has the right demeanor for NY.
I don't see any downside as he'd come for money only, essentially, unless the Knicks want to rush. In which
case they would still be able to get him at a discount.
Don't get me wrong, there are other great players out there, but not many who want to come to NY and can make it happen.

TMS wrote:

egelband wrote:

TMS wrote:

egelband wrote:

TMS wrote:

egelband wrote:When Denver had AI, did Melo play more efficiently?

the answer to that is no... his shot attempts actually increased on the average the year AI joined the squad.

Argh. That doesn't help my argument. But still, I think Melo would be a great fit.
:)

just curious, why do u feel he'd be a great fit? do u think MDA's system is relegated upon 1 guy dominating the offense taking 20+ shots from the perimeter?

I'm not an expert on D'antonis system but I do think a championship team needs diversity on offence.
I see Melo as a playmaker who can finish. There aren't that many of them out there. And I don't see
one on the Knicks yet. He would fill that role.
There aren't a ton of them available and I also think Melo has the right demeanor for NY.
I don't see any downside as he'd come for money only, essentially, unless the Knicks want to rush. In which
case they would still be able to get him at a discount.
Don't get me wrong, there are other great players out there, but not many who want to come to NY and can make it happen.

well that's just the thing, we are operating under this assumption that it's a done deal that he's coming here next summer, & i don't see that as the case... i don't wanna sacrifice yet another season in a holding pattern until we find out what he wants to do... if an opportunity comes along to improve our team by trading for 1 of the top PG's in the game, i think u have to go for it (depending on the cost obviously)... u don't hold up the franchise another season to see what Melo wants to do next year, to me that's just ass backwards type of thinking & not a good way to go... i'm not talking about giving up on the Melo plan to acquire someone like Gilbert Arenas here, this is Chris Paul we're talking about... a top 5 player in the NBA.

There's no holding pattern now. I don't think anyone's saying, 'don't make a move cuz Melo's coming'. i think the general idea is that the current team will go forward with maybe one more trade (chandler?) before the season's out. Then next summer there will be a couple of contracts coming off the books again at which point another long-term piece can be added. i'm just saying that i'd prefer melo for money and one solid asset (like randolph maybe) to paul at a higher price.
Anyhow, in reply to the original topic, i think melo's elite and would be wonderful with the knicks.

If any of you took time to check out the overrated players in the league, CP3 is in the top 5..i didn't agree entirely with the write up, but he did make some sense.. All and All, either one of these guy's would be a welcome addition to this team....

Check the stats on the last game we played last season..Gallo had 12 3pt attemps, made 5, and thats coming from your SF/PF

tj23 wrote:He's effecient enough. Please. This is stupid

agreed. but, hey, if ESPN is already slamming melo, they must think he's coming to the knicks.

come on now, let's try and be realistic here.