crzymdups wrote:also, this part of the article deserves to be highlighted:

According to two people familiar with how the David Lee sign-and-trade arrangement was structured, the Knicks do not have to wait the standard 60 days before combining Ronny Turiaf, Anthony Randolph or Kelenna Azubuike with other players in a trade. The Knicks were still under the salary cap when Lee was signed and traded, exempting them from the 60-day waiting period, which applies only to players acquired with a trade exception by teams that are over the cap.

1. expect another trade then. walsh doesnt do these things just by accident.... atleast if u judge by what the ool' man has had to say lately...about rickling **** in there even when its not whats expected.

Walsh loves backdoor methods.

Remember Harrington trade? (during Indiana...)

BRIGGS wrote:

BigSm00th wrote:shannon brown is better than bill walker.

It's an exciting move. This is what I was looking for--a quality bench enhancement--they certainly are trying to put together an exciting teams for the fans. I really hope they get Brown and I give the Knicks management a lot of credit.

This is what we have been positioning for, for 2 years

Ira wrote:I'm with the camp that doesn't see what he brings that Walker doesn't. But at the right price, he might be a nice trade piece.

He can play the 1 Walker is a wing

TMS wrote:Shannon Browne is Fred Jones in his youth... he will bring exciting dunks & a little defense but not much else... once again Knicks fans are losing their minds about borderline role players joining this team... last year it was Spanish Chocolate Nash Lite... simma down y'all, simma down.

This is a bit different tho. We didn't have viable players at key positions and we were only HOPING that those unproven kids like Rodriguez would work out. Don't get confused about enthusiasm for a late season move that is really about cap clearing and now being excited about building up the roster with insurance that can play at least up to a decent NBA level. Each situation is different and not equivalent in importance or intensity of feeling. Even if people sounded just as excited then as they are now, it's not the same thing. Circumstances have changed.

At least Walker did stick and that's not bad considering what we gave up to get the players we did last year. Now we're basically rounding out the roster with nice pieces that can either be moved later or can fill the gaps after a trade is made and if no trade is made they're nice bench support.

nixluva wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:
Donnie Walsh offers the contracts. D'Antoni decides who see's floor time.

:cough: Darko :cough:

A lot of the reason for MDA not going deep is that there wasn't a lot of depth on his teams here on in PHX. Once we started stripping the team to save cap, the bench really didn't have a lot to offer. Sure you could just play guys but that wouldn't help win games. Now the team is full of players that can actually contribute if called upon. There would be more justification for going 9 deep and 10 on occasion. Depth is a good thing, but it's not everything.

If MDA would use a 9 man rotation, we could use Shannon Brown. But he doesn't. By using a short rotation and an uptempo offense, the team that gets tired is us, not the other team who substitutes more.

A question: If you were Shannon Brown, would you want to re-sign with the Champion Lakers Team and live/play in LA or come to the Knicks who have been disfunctional for the entire decade. Yes, we are rebuilding, but we aren't there yet.

nixluva wrote:

Markji wrote:I'd rather have a shooting guard who can shoot.

If MDA would use a 9 man rotation, we could use Shannon Brown. But he doesn't. By using a short rotation and an uptempo offense, the team that gets tired is us, not the other team who substitutes more.

A question: If you were Shannon Brown, would you want to re-sign with the Champion Lakers Team and live/play in LA or come to the Knicks who have been disfunctional for the entire decade. Yes, we are rebuilding, but we aren't there yet.

What is with you guys? Do you not recognize that this man has done this for years to great effect. His teams in PHX weren't tired!!!! They got beat, but it wasn't from fatigue. He actually has some bad luck that may have been part of the reason he didn't make the finals a couple of times.

Tell me how tired are you if you win 62 games and get the WCF's? Obviously not tired enough to lose the 1st 2 playoff rounds. There are plenty of opportunities over the course of a season to get players rest. I expect he'll go with a 8-9 man rotation which is just fine.

This year, we are in a similar position. We have a lot of equally talented young players, but no superstar except for Amar'e, and we want to be a little careful on pushing him too far, so we preserve his knees.

It is really simple. When you have a starting lineup of star/solid players, you have play a shorter rotation. When you don't, but you do have a lot of equally talented players with a stron bench, you open up the rotation.