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Rashad McCants article......Great read.
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Bippity10
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7/30/2010  3:36 PM
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EnySpree wrote:Good read....McCants is just victim of the nba fraternity. There are tons of nba talent that get pushed away for no good reason. "Attitude" is a cop out cuz you can run with it. Having to see a psych? Come on....the nba blacklist people all the time and we've talked about that here tons of times.

McCants had problems with Doherty in college(who also asked him to see a psychologist) and some issues with Roy Williams as well. Now NBA coaches and some of his teammates have said the same. At what point is the attitude problem real? What is the motivation for coaches and GM's to indiscriminately target and blackball talented players? What do they get out of it?

The reality is that he is faced with a real world situation with real world responses and no longer is being shielded by the fact that he is more talented then everyone else. In high school he could get away with it. Now he can't. In the real world if you fight with your 3 previous bosses and develop a reputation in your industry as a trouble maker people are not going to take a chance on you. You either have to move or try a differetn industry, or become so talented that no one can refuse you. Or start from the bottom again and rebuild your reputation. McCants is going through this right now. He's talented but not so talented that he gives people no choice. He has a reputation as a problem child and teams are hesitant to take a chance. He can either continue doing what he is doing and continue to be blackballed. Or change is attitude (guarantee there are a million more stories then what you read). Or become so talented he gives no other choice. If not, he wil always be walking around going "teams don't like me for no reason, they don't want to sign me because I don't smile". Poppycock!

couldn't have said it better myself bip.

No one could have

I thought the Poppycock part was the most brilliant part

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7/30/2010  4:26 PM
Bippity10 wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:Good read....McCants is just victim of the nba fraternity. There are tons of nba talent that get pushed away for no good reason. "Attitude" is a cop out cuz you can run with it. Having to see a psych? Come on....the nba blacklist people all the time and we've talked about that here tons of times.

McCants had problems with Doherty in college(who also asked him to see a psychologist) and some issues with Roy Williams as well. Now NBA coaches and some of his teammates have said the same. At what point is the attitude problem real? What is the motivation for coaches and GM's to indiscriminately target and blackball talented players? What do they get out of it?

The reality is that he is faced with a real world situation with real world responses and no longer is being shielded by the fact that he is more talented then everyone else. In high school he could get away with it. Now he can't. In the real world if you fight with your 3 previous bosses and develop a reputation in your industry as a trouble maker people are not going to take a chance on you. You either have to move or try a differetn industry, or become so talented that no one can refuse you. Or start from the bottom again and rebuild your reputation. McCants is going through this right now. He's talented but not so talented that he gives people no choice. He has a reputation as a problem child and teams are hesitant to take a chance. He can either continue doing what he is doing and continue to be blackballed. Or change is attitude (guarantee there are a million more stories then what you read). Or become so talented he gives no other choice. If not, he wil always be walking around going "teams don't like me for no reason, they don't want to sign me because I don't smile". Poppycock!

couldn't have said it better myself bip.

No one could have

I thought the Poppycock part was the most brilliant part

quoting yourself now to get back to 10k?

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7/30/2010  4:29 PM
Bippity10 wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:Good read....McCants is just victim of the nba fraternity. There are tons of nba talent that get pushed away for no good reason. "Attitude" is a cop out cuz you can run with it. Having to see a psych? Come on....the nba blacklist people all the time and we've talked about that here tons of times.

McCants had problems with Doherty in college(who also asked him to see a psychologist) and some issues with Roy Williams as well. Now NBA coaches and some of his teammates have said the same. At what point is the attitude problem real? What is the motivation for coaches and GM's to indiscriminately target and blackball talented players? What do they get out of it?

The reality is that he is faced with a real world situation with real world responses and no longer is being shielded by the fact that he is more talented then everyone else. In high school he could get away with it. Now he can't. In the real world if you fight with your 3 previous bosses and develop a reputation in your industry as a trouble maker people are not going to take a chance on you. You either have to move or try a differetn industry, or become so talented that no one can refuse you. Or start from the bottom again and rebuild your reputation. McCants is going through this right now. He's talented but not so talented that he gives people no choice. He has a reputation as a problem child and teams are hesitant to take a chance. He can either continue doing what he is doing and continue to be blackballed. Or change is attitude (guarantee there are a million more stories then what you read). Or become so talented he gives no other choice. If not, he wil always be walking around going "teams don't like me for no reason, they don't want to sign me because I don't smile". Poppycock!

couldn't have said it better myself bip.

No one could have

I thought the Poppycock part was the most brilliant part

You would. Flaming cracker wannabe.

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7/30/2010  4:33 PM
But he knows the NBA isn't waiting for him. He knows it's his move. "You know," McCants begins slowly, "if they want me to smile ... I'll do it." He sits back in his chair and promptly undermines the declaration he has just made. "But I won't ever change being me."

Hmmmmm, where have we heard this line of bull$hit, excuse me, 'poppycock', before...? Maybe he should just save time and contact the Chinese league now.

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7/30/2010  6:29 PM
I HATE players with attitude problems and never defend them. But this guy may be a little different. I keep thinking the guy plays hard and is not selfish like Marbury. Am I way off? But the first two coaches in college tried to send him to a shrink and cited a "personality disorder". Now the guy obviously got defensive when that happened but who wouldn't? Then the label kind of stuck and every other coach who had ny difficulty with him found his an easy out. Not saying he is blameless, but this type of thing snowballs quickly. He may not have been mature enough to see he was perpetuating it, but he seems to do what the coaches ask him. I think this dude is a victim of a system and he just didn't have what it takes to pull out of the viscous cycle.

If this type of label had been attached to Lebron in college he wouldn't have made it past year two. Just saying.

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7/30/2010  9:11 PM
loweyecue wrote:I HATE players with attitude problems and never defend them. But this guy may be a little different. I keep thinking the guy plays hard and is not selfish like Marbury. Am I way off? But the first two coaches in college tried to send him to a shrink and cited a "personality disorder". Now the guy obviously got defensive when that happened but who wouldn't? Then the label kind of stuck and every other coach who had ny difficulty with him found his an easy out. Not saying he is blameless, but this type of thing snowballs quickly. He may not have been mature enough to see he was perpetuating it, but he seems to do what the coaches ask him. I think this dude is a victim of a system and he just didn't have what it takes to pull out of the viscous cycle.

If this type of label had been attached to Lebron in college he wouldn't have made it past year two. Just saying.

You have no idea what he does or does not do unless you are part of the team. It's all hearsay. But when it's repeated over and over again, it tends to be true.

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7/30/2010  9:35 PM
Bippity10 wrote:
loweyecue wrote:I HATE players with attitude problems and never defend them. But this guy may be a little different. I keep thinking the guy plays hard and is not selfish like Marbury. Am I way off? But the first two coaches in college tried to send him to a shrink and cited a "personality disorder". Now the guy obviously got defensive when that happened but who wouldn't? Then the label kind of stuck and every other coach who had ny difficulty with him found his an easy out. Not saying he is blameless, but this type of thing snowballs quickly. He may not have been mature enough to see he was perpetuating it, but he seems to do what the coaches ask him. I think this dude is a victim of a system and he just didn't have what it takes to pull out of the viscous cycle.

If this type of label had been attached to Lebron in college he wouldn't have made it past year two. Just saying.

You have no idea what he does or does not do unless you are part of the team. It's all hearsay. But when it's repeated over and over again, it tends to be true.

Yes there has to be a fire underneath all that smoke. But the question I was trying raise (badly indeed) was probably a bit broader. I think introverted people in general get heckled a lot and when its a one person against an entire system of people pointing fingers at you it is east to feel "wronged". The most consistent thing against him is that he sulks, right? I mean there are lots of peeps in the league with character flaws but this guy doesn't have a job. Ah well he played for UNC, can't feel too bad for him.

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8/2/2010  9:49 AM    LAST EDITED: 8/2/2010  9:50 AM
McCant issue is he rubs people the wrong way. His body language during games is also TERRIBLE. It also doesnt help that he is a chucker. The guy thinks he is better than he is which is made worse by his "attitude". This is why guys like Gooden, Harrington, and Artest manage to get contracts. They may do some knucklehead things on the court sometimes but they arent a locker room problem.
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franco12 wrote:I would totally take him over any of the 15th man scrubs we've debated about keeping or letting go.

And just a funny comment about MDA worried about chemistry - when was that, last year or this summer?

Sorry, Coach, you got to earn your money, and that might involve taking a talented, but troubled player and trying to rehabilitate him. This is not a Marbury scenario. More like a Darko type scenario.

If we don't want any former Allstars like AI because of his attitude; if we didn't want Steph because of his attitude, why even bother with a guy like this. Last thing we need is a chemistry killer

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
Rashad McCants article......Great read.

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