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Ira
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7/27/2010  7:43 AM
The thing that interested me most in AR's interview was his saying that his shot was much better. Since he's not a back to the basket guy, AR needs that shot to keep defenders honest. If it's true, it will round out his offensive game.

He also talked about how D'Antoni uses players abilities. Don't be surprised to see Mike use AR's defensive skills the way he used Jeffries last season. We could see AR guarding 2's and 3's as well as 4's.

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7/27/2010  7:51 AM
Paladin55 wrote:
martin wrote:
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Playa's Definition or Interpretation of the term "COMMUNITY PICK"

Obviously we have two different interpretations of the term "COMMUNITY PICK" on Ultimate Knicks


(Grabs Mic) When it comes to NBA basketball where the predominate player is African American, a "Community Pick" would be a white player that's usually over hyped or taken sooner than expected in the draft whether he's American or International player, but he looks predominately like the PAID AUDIENCE that watches NBA games in the Arena's.


The media usually gives him a pass on draft night if he's known in college or overseas to do one thing well if that. It's usually a reach pick to go after him, but the hype kind of gives fans a very optimistic point of view.

That my friends is my definition and point of view of a community pick (Drops Mic)

Anthony Randolph doesn't fit the criteria

I have a question though. What if that pick can actually play and play well. Is he still considered a community pick or does his skill level automatically get overrode by his skin color?

exactly, that's why the whole community thing is pretty stupid.


Hate to speak up for Playa, but the "community pick" definition also includes a provision for players who can "play and play well.":

"In the regular course of a player's career, within 2-3 years of being drafted, if a player, previously designated to be a community pick, plays above and beyond the level of play generally ascribed to a community pick, to whit he shows that he can play the game and play it well, by contributjng to his team's success in a variety of ways commensurate to the position he was drafted in, the designation of community pick shall heretofore be recinded, and the player in question shall be deemed a "good pick."

Wow that was superb Paladin55, you are finally catching on with playaology :)

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7/27/2010  8:15 AM
So Let Me Get This Straight

smackedog - you make some valid points

"! did you see what I just did!". He seems to love the fact that he has a great handle and can move and play like a guard, and really wants to show that off and use it."

Even professional athletes can have moments of epiphany. Anthony Randolph is 21 so I will gladly grant his right to enjoy his craft, even when he fails. That is what discovery is all about. How can a player grow if he does not experiment?

The same people who moan about Randolph expressing himself, turn around and berate Wilson Chandler for appearing too passive. "He does not show enough emotion out there"

When was the last time someone called out Danilo Gallinari for celebrating after a shot?

It's called bias.

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7/27/2010  8:40 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/27/2010  8:41 AM
earl, interesting points.

it really comes back to the game, though. my problem with gallo is the ridiculous amount of 3-point shots and the long periods of passivity on the coiurt. my problem with wilson is the inconsistency, the all-star look one night and then the scrub look the next. you’ve pointed out many times that they're very young and by definition inconsistent and not fully formed, which is a good point. they gotta attack their weakness though, and gotta show steady improvement and growth in them.

ar i haven’t seen enough to have a judgment on.

all the emphases on their personalities and demeanors is just a bunch of fanboy stuff. which of course we all are. it's a byproduct of our being so focused on this team and being so hyped up, especially during this particular off-season.

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7/27/2010  8:59 AM
playa2 wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
martin wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
playa2 wrote:
Playa's Definition or Interpretation of the term "COMMUNITY PICK"

Obviously we have two different interpretations of the term "COMMUNITY PICK" on Ultimate Knicks


(Grabs Mic) When it comes to NBA basketball where the predominate player is African American, a "Community Pick" would be a white player that's usually over hyped or taken sooner than expected in the draft whether he's American or International player, but he looks predominately like the PAID AUDIENCE that watches NBA games in the Arena's.


The media usually gives him a pass on draft night if he's known in college or overseas to do one thing well if that. It's usually a reach pick to go after him, but the hype kind of gives fans a very optimistic point of view.

That my friends is my definition and point of view of a community pick (Drops Mic)

Anthony Randolph doesn't fit the criteria

I have a question though. What if that pick can actually play and play well. Is he still considered a community pick or does his skill level automatically get overrode by his skin color?

exactly, that's why the whole community thing is pretty stupid.


Hate to speak up for Playa, but the "community pick" definition also includes a provision for players who can "play and play well.":

"In the regular course of a player's career, within 2-3 years of being drafted, if a player, previously designated to be a community pick, plays above and beyond the level of play generally ascribed to a community pick, to whit he shows that he can play the game and play it well, by contributjng to his team's success in a variety of ways commensurate to the position he was drafted in, the designation of community pick shall heretofore be recinded, and the player in question shall be deemed a "good pick."

Wow that was superb Paladin55, you are finally catching on with playaology :)

here's my problem with playaology - you end up spending 2 years and running now posting ad nauseum - on a knicks fan site - every bit of focused attention paid to every flawed moment of p[performance from so-called community pick. the guy’s game, good and bad, is evident enough to every knick fan who watches him and hopes like hell he develops into a great player for us. to have one guy posting here nonstop in celebration of his every noted flaw in an attempt to justify and rationalize his mania about this community pick stuff is beyond obnoxious.

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7/27/2010  9:11 AM
I might be worried about Randolph's comments if he didn't also mention working on his game.
If he didn't acknowledge that he needed to work on his game and thought he already
was the s**t then I would be concerned. He sounds like he has a "put me in coach!"
mentality because he believes he can do more to contribute, not because he wants to
pad his stats.

Randolph sounds hungry, hungry is exactly what this team needs right now. Most of the time the
Knicks barely managed a pulse.

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7/27/2010  9:11 AM
^ clinical marv in the house. good morning.
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7/27/2010  9:21 AM
martin wrote:^ clinical marv in the house. good morning.

should we pay him?

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7/27/2010  9:22 AM
Marv wrote:earl, interesting points.

it really comes back to the game, though. my problem with gallo is the ridiculous amount of 3-point shots and the long periods of passivity on the coiurt. my problem with wilson is the inconsistency, the all-star look one night and then the scrub look the next. you’ve pointed out many times that they're very young and by definition inconsistent and not fully formed, which is a good point. they gotta attack their weakness though, and gotta show steady improvement and growth in them.

ar i haven’t seen enough to have a judgment on.

all the emphases on their personalities and demeanors is just a bunch of fanboy stuff. which of course we all are. it's a byproduct of our being so focused on this team and being so hyped up, especially during this particular off-season.

so far I am not bothered by the inconsistencies. If the Knicks had a PG that could get everyone involved on a regular consistent basis, perhaps that opinion would be different. Same with the fact that the likes of Al, Hughes, Nate all would also take away from the consistent involvement of both Wilson and Gallo. They were still both < 23 years old too. Put them next to a player that needs a double team and you may see things open up for them.

IMHO This will be very much a telling year.

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7/27/2010  9:23 AM
nyk4ever wrote:
martin wrote:^ clinical marv in the house. good morning.

should we pay him?

give him a hard candy and send him a thank you note.

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7/27/2010  10:03 AM
martin wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
martin wrote:^ clinical marv in the house. good morning.

should we pay him?

give him a hard candy and send him a thank you note.

christ. not even something colorful and foamy that holds a swizzle stick??

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7/27/2010  10:12 AM
We all know Anthony Randolph has talent. His mental makeup has come under question and the way he is talking isn't helping his case.
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Ira
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7/27/2010  10:43 AM
It's also possible to read too much into a player's comments. We won't know for sure until the season starts, but I think AR will play under control. He did say something in a previous interview about the importance of his showing more basketball intelligence.
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7/27/2010  10:52 AM
Does this mean you guys won't be apologizing to playa?
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7/27/2010  11:01 AM
misterearl wrote:So Let Me Get This Straight

smackedog - you make some valid points

"! did you see what I just did!". He seems to love the fact that he has a great handle and can move and play like a guard, and really wants to show that off and use it."

Even professional athletes can have moments of epiphany. Anthony Randolph is 21 so I will gladly grant his right to enjoy his craft, even when he fails. That is what discovery is all about. How can a player grow if he does not experiment?

The same people who moan about Randolph expressing himself, turn around and berate Wilson Chandler for appearing too passive. "He does not show enough emotion out there"

When was the last time someone called out Danilo Gallinari for celebrating after a shot?

It's called bias.


Actually, I made a negative comment about that pose he did after a dunk against the Pacers- the one over Hibbert. I'm pretty old school in that way- I started following this game in the late 60's, and I hate that crap and cringe when guys on my team do it. Screaming or fist pumping is fine- posing, dancing, or wiggling your body with an expectation of getting on the nightly highlights, or reproducing a signature "move" that you hope will make it into a video game is not, in my book.

I have no problem with Chandler being passive in his reactions, and there are moments when he is aggressive in his play, and that is all I really care about. I do think that Wilson's demeanor- especially his silence on the floor, makes it less likely that he should be considered to be a captain, which was a recent debate around here.

We don't know Randolph that well and people around here (including me, I must add) are probably over-analyzing what he said in the interview, but he comes to the Knicks with an asterisk next to his name which labels him as a player of great potential but dubious maturity, so it makes sense that we are looking to see why a guy with all this talent has this kind of reputation.

I also don't think people will be that upset if he expresses himself in certain ways after doing something good on the court as long as he is playing good team ball and not sulking because he isn't being allowed to do whatever he wants, whenever he wants to do it.

When any new player comes to the team you want to hear them "say the right things." The "right things" are frequently boring, but they are more of a "rights of passage" thing which shows that a guy understands he is part of a new team and is not only an individual. This might not have been a "right things" interview, and given his past, it becomes a topic of discussion.

I doubt if the coaching staff is worried about what Randolph might have said in the interview, and they've probably told him all the ways he will be utilized by the team. Ultimately, I think Randolph just wants to be an important part of the team, and I hope he's happy with how he is used on the court.

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7/27/2010  11:01 AM
great article in the wall street journal about AR. haters to the back, this kid is going to be good here.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703700904575391250591221386.html?mod=WSJ_NY_Sports_LEFT_LEADNewsCollection

He's Long, Lean, Unlimited
That's the Scouting Report on Randolph, the Dynamic Player the Knicks Acquired from the Warriors

By SCOTT CACCIOLA

GREENBURGH, N.Y.—After Anthony Randolph contested a shot by Sacramento Kings forward Jason Thompson on Jan. 8, Mr. Randolph, then a promising young forward for the Golden State Warriors, landed awkwardly and tore ligaments in his left ankle. It was an isolated moment in an otherwise meaningless regular-season game, but an argument can be made that it was the best thing that happened to the New York Knicks all winter.

Mr. Randolph's season-ending injury marked the beginning of his premature exit from the Warriors, who shipped him to the Knicks two weeks ago as part of their sign-and-trade deal for David Lee. The Knicks, who were going to lose Mr. Lee to free agency anyway, are hopeful that the 21-year-old Mr. Randolph can come close to fulfilling the expectations that have shadowed him since the Warriors selected him with the 14th pick in the 2008 NBA Draft.

"I think any player would be happy to be put in this situation," Mr. Randolph said.

To date, Mr. Randolph's most enduring legacy as an NBA player exists in clips on the Internet. How about his two violent dunks over the Houston Rockets' Yao Ming during his rookie season? Or his epic two-handed block on a breakaway by Los Angeles Lakers superstar Kobe Bryant? These are the sorts of plays—flashes of brilliance, really—where Mr. Randolph unfolds his 6-foot-11 frame and hints at what he might be, could be, should be.

"He's a unique talent," Knicks coach Mike D'Antoni. "And we have to find the right place for him to play, because he's not a standard four, three, whatever. We'll have to be able to utilize his talents and put him on display."

The fact that the Warriors were willing to trade him after just two seasons could be—and has been, at least in some corners of the Blogosphere—interpreted as an indictment of Mr. Randolph's development. Not the case, according to Warriors general manager Larry Riley, who said the team's decision to part with Mr. Randolph was "very difficult." He said the deal ultimately had more to do with Mr. Lee, a first-time All-Star with the Knicks last season, than Mr. Randolph, who averaged 9.2 points and six rebounds in two injury-shortened seasons—and a scant 19.6 minutes per game—with the Warriors.

"For me, it was the acquisition of a proven product," Mr. Riley said in a telephone interview. "I needed to add someone who was older, and David fits with our team. We've got too many young guys, and I needed to change that. I wanted to get a little more maturity."

Mr. Riley said the situation might have been different had Mr. Randolph stayed healthy last season. That would have given Mr. Riley more time to evaluate him. At the time of his injury, Mr. Randolph was playing about as well as he had as a pro, averaging 13.2 points and 6.6 rebounds over his last 11 games. Mr. Randolph said feels no animosity toward the Warriors for trading him, calling it "a business decision."

"I don't know where his ceiling is as a player," Mr. Riley said. "It's indefinite. It's going to be proven over time.''

Mr. Randolph's impossibly long-limbed frame has a certain Inspector Gadget quality, which used to be even more pronounced. Just three years ago, as a freshman at LSU, where he spent his lone college season before entering the NBA, Mr. Randolph weighed about 185 pounds. Even at 210 pounds last season, Mr. Randolph often had trouble holding his position in the post against stronger, bulkier players. But over the past six months, he has added 20 pounds of muscle by training with Kyle Meadows, a Dallas-based strength and conditioning coach.

"I need to be able to bang down there with those guys," Mr. Randolph said.

The emphasis has been on high-intensity, basketball-specific movements that are designed to make Mr. Randolph more explosive. For example, he might do a set of power lifts in the weight room and then head directly to the court to dunk a medicine ball five straight times.

"He's feeling pretty good about himself," Mr. Meadows said. "You'll never see him with his shirt on. He's really enjoying the delts and pecs and things."

One of his training partners throughout June was Andy Rautins, one of the Knicks' second-round picks. Mr. Randolph, who was still with the Warriors at the time, often joked about how the Knicks had snubbed him in the draft, selecting Danilo Gallinari instead. Mr. Randolph took that as the first slight of his professional career, and he had not forgotten—even two years later. "I thought I was going to be here," Mr. Randolph said.

Along those lines, Pat Washington, Mr. Randolph's coach at Dallas' Woodrow Wilson High School, said Mr. Randolph tends to focus on the soft spots that others have cited in his game. He takes things personally. "Do not take that as a weakness," Mr. Washington said. "He's going to fight back."

So as a rookie, having heard that he was too skinny to compete in the paint with the NBA's resident bruisers, he began the long process of bulking up. The following offseason, he was determined to become a better ballhandler. This summer, he has worked on his face-up game. He also has tried to develop right- and left-handed hook shots, which, considering his pterodactyl-like wingspan, could become unblockable if he develops any sort of consistency.

The feeling around Madison Square Garden is that Mr. Randolph could flourish in Mr. D'Antoni's up-tempo system, which has room for unconventional players to run the court and ad lib and show off their versatility. In a more structured, grind-it-out scheme, Mr. Randolph—a guard trapped in a power forward's body—might struggle. "Because he is more of a finesse player," said former LSU assistant John Treloar.

Mr. Randolph's advocates often feel the urge to provide some perspective: Had he stayed in college, he would be preparing for his senior season. But potential can sometimes become a four-letter word, and he engaged in a well-chronicled push-and-pull at Golden State with Don Nelson.

"Nellie was hard on him a lot of times," Mr. Riley said. "But I never felt like it was a situation where he was in the so-called 'doghouse.'"

According to his former coaches at LSU, Mr. Randolph needed incentive on occasion. Midway through his only season at LSU, he was averaging about eight rebounds per game—good but not great for someone with his size and athleticism. So before the team played at Vanderbilt, assistant coach Butch Pierre made a surprise announcement in a team meeting: Mr. Randolph would spend some time at point guard. He was thrilled. His teammates were shocked. But Mr. Pierre said he included an important caveat: Mr. Randolph would be permitted to bring the ball upcourt only after he grabbed a defensive rebound. He finished the game with 19 rebounds.

Then there was a matchup three weeks later with Kentucky's Patrick Patterson, a McDonald's All-American as a high school senior. Mr. Randolph had earned no such honors, and Mr. Pierre felt it was appropriate to remind him of this distinction. "I told him he couldn't even make the Burger King team," said Mr. Pierre, who now works as an assistant at Oklahoma State. Mr. Randolph wound up collecting 24 points and 14 rebounds.

But it was a trying season: John Brady, the team's head coach, was fired after an 8-13 start. And Mr. Randolph, who was almost painfully shy, was coping with his own challenges.

"He'd get frustrated with himself or he'd get frustrated taking instruction," said Mr. Brady, now the head coach at Arkansas State. "But I think he's matured. I think he understands how to play harder for longer. And there will not be a better athlete on the court than Anthony Randolph."

Mr. Randolph said he plans to spend this week working out at the Knicks' training facility in Westchester County before heading home to Dallas to pack and tie up some loose ends. New York City will be an adjustment—"I'm used to a lot of space," he said—but an exciting change.

"I wish the season started tomorrow," he said. "I'm ready."

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7/27/2010  11:15 AM
That's some article Crzymdups, thanks. Love the burger king quote. This is going to be
an interesting season if Walsh doesn't get twitchy. I'm psyched.
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7/27/2010  11:19 AM
Marv wrote:here's my problem with playaology - you end up spending 2 years and running now posting ad nauseum - on a knicks fan site - every bit of focused attention paid to every flawed moment of p[performance from so-called community pick. the guy’s game, good and bad, is evident enough to every knick fan who watches him and hopes like hell he develops into a great player for us. to have one guy posting here nonstop in celebration of his every noted flaw in an attempt to justify and rationalize his mania about this community pick stuff is beyond obnoxious.

...But he does provoke and inspire you.

And where is your compassion- shouldn't you be trying to delve into his mind so you can help him?

Gallo's performance on the court this year will hopefully put an end to the community pick label, anyway, although what he did last year should have been enough. He will be seen as one of the top 5 picks in his draft come this time next year.

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7/27/2010  11:30 AM
AnubisADL wrote:We all know Anthony Randolph has talent. His mental makeup has come under question and the way he is talking isn't helping his case.

Wait what did the kid say that was so out of line or selfish? If someone asks you a personal growth question aren't you gonna talk about yourself? You guys are making WAY too much about this stuff.

Gallo just got finished saying people are STUPID if they don't think he's a good player! Then he proceeded to talk about the work he's putting in. These articles are meant to be about the player. AR also said he and teammates started to bond in Vegas working out and felt they all were ready to do what it takes to win.

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7/27/2010  11:47 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/27/2010  11:59 AM
"He'd get frustrated with himself or he'd get frustrated taking instruction,"

This is my only concern regarding Randolph. Can he take criticism and instruction. Or will this be another player vs. Coach situation where the player doesn't listen, the coach is blamed and the player is enabled by the blaming of the coach? If not, the sky is the limit for him. Only time will tell

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