Panos wrote:

Vmart wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Amare and Felton. I think if you go with tri captains Turiaf or Chandler should be considered.

Chandler? Odd choice

Why?

Chandler will give you a good effort, but is not the type of player to be vocal on the court or get in a guy's face to motivate someone or tell them what they should have done. Just doesn't seem to be part of his make-up at this time in his career.

Who's face does Jeter ever get in? H20 was captain and he wasn't much of the vocal type either. Chandler is the wise choice for Captain it can only enhance his standing on the team to be more vocal and when the quiet one speaks most listen to what he has to say.

The title of captain should not be to "enhance one's standing on the team."
You're putting the cart before the horse. The leader needs to be respected on his own. People don't respect you just because you have a title, it just brings the title down.
I don't think you give a captain title to someone who may or may not even have a starting position on this team.
There may be cases where you have a seasoned vet that's been thru the war and can lead, but this isn't one of them.

Same goes for Gallo. Duke needs to earn his stripes.

I say Stat gets the nod, or as someone said, no one for the time being.

There can be multiple captains. Amare and Chandler should be the captain. Chandler has produced worked hard is the longest tenured Knick. Amare is automatically the face of the franchise and should be given the title.

Panos wrote:

Vmart wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Amare and Felton. I think if you go with tri captains Turiaf or Chandler should be considered.

Chandler? Odd choice

Why?

Chandler will give you a good effort, but is not the type of player to be vocal on the court or get in a guy's face to motivate someone or tell them what they should have done. Just doesn't seem to be part of his make-up at this time in his career.

Who's face does Jeter ever get in? H20 was captain and he wasn't much of the vocal type either. Chandler is the wise choice for Captain it can only enhance his standing on the team to be more vocal and when the quiet one speaks most listen to what he has to say.

The title of captain should not be to "enhance one's standing on the team."
You're putting the cart before the horse. The leader needs to be respected on his own. People don't respect you just because you have a title, it just brings the title down.
I don't think you give a captain title to someone who may or may not even have a starting position on this team.
There may be cases where you have a seasoned vet that's been thru the war and can lead, but this isn't one of them.

Same goes for Gallo. Duke needs to earn his stripes.

I say Stat gets the nod, or as someone said, no one for the time being.

YES... we all wanna c how this goes, lets wait and see if anyone deserves it -- or so i hope thats how it plays out. yanks have gone stretches with no capn cuz it means something. the silly capns for the knick recently == vomit.

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

martin wrote:

Vmart wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Amare and Felton. I think if you go with tri captains Turiaf or Chandler should be considered.

Chandler? Odd choice

Why?

Chandler will give you a good effort, but is not the type of player to be vocal on the court or get in a guy's face to motivate someone or tell them what they should have done. Just doesn't seem to be part of his make-up at this time in his career.

Who's face does Jeter ever get in? H20 was captain and he wasn't much of the vocal type either. Chandler is the wise choice for Captain it can only enhance his standing on the team to be more vocal and when the quiet one speaks most listen to what he has to say.

Leadership is earned not doled out. What you are describing is bazaroo world.

This philosophy seems to be working ok in San Antonio where Tim Duncan is the captain. I don't think being demonstrative in your actions on the court makes you a leader just as being quiet and controlled doesn't make you not a leader. Chandler is the longest tenured returning Knick other than Curry and the most accomplished. He is known for having a very good work ethic. I think if you are choosing captains he should be in the conversation.

did you just compare Duncan who leads his team to multiple championships to Chandler?

Weber to Kaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhn: "Darko and me shouldn't be in the same sentence."

I compared their on court demeanor and I am pretty sure you are aware of that. The guys I suggested for captain were Felton and Amare. I said if you had tri-captains Chandler and Turiaf should be considered. Who would you replace Chandler with on that list? I don't think considering him is ridiculous at all.

To me being a captain is being a leader. Picking out a random characteristic of 2 players that may be similar has nothing to do with being a leader.

They are also both right-handed, does that qualify Chandler? You get my point.

BasketballJones wrote:

Panos wrote:
Just don't see it. Doesn't make sense to me. We'll just have to disagree.

Just make everybody a captain. Problem solved.

Captain Morgan for the captain!!!
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Olbrannon wrote:

sidsanders wrote:http://www.nba.com/knicks/legends2010/reed_captain.html

"Red used to tell me 'Listen, sometimes I'm going to have to raise hell with you and get on you' and I'd say 'Why?' and he'd say 'Sometimes I've got to raise hell because I've got to send a message and I can't raise hell with every guy on the team because some guys can't take it. But if I raise hell with you, the captain, then every guy gets the message' and I understood. But that's the kind of relationship we had."

do we have a player like this on the team yet? we shall see. do we have a coach who can use the capn to get things straight, i dont know...

Good quote and a telling story. Much as I like Gallo I'm not sure he fits the bill for cap'n those 'talians are as volatile as us Greeks/Armenians. Better look to the cool headed ones. For now this will likely be Amar'e or Felton by default.

im not so sure thats a great mix if the coach does have to make an "example" with AS like red/reed. im all in favor of leaving the capn title open till some player(s) show some leadership and can truly take the role and do more than some of the recent ones have done. this title shouldnt be just a title. its gonna be up to the coaches to determine what they want in the capn, and what the roles may be so it may not be a vocal guy, or some "locker room police" type or maybe it is...

i cant see any good of naming a capn at this point when the team hasnt done much together.

Olbrannon wrote:

sidsanders wrote:http://www.nba.com/knicks/legends2010/reed_captain.html

"Red used to tell me 'Listen, sometimes I'm going to have to raise hell with you and get on you' and I'd say 'Why?' and he'd say 'Sometimes I've got to raise hell because I've got to send a message and I can't raise hell with every guy on the team because some guys can't take it. But if I raise hell with you, the captain, then every guy gets the message' and I understood. But that's the kind of relationship we had."

do we have a player like this on the team yet? we shall see. do we have a coach who can use the capn to get things straight, i dont know...

Good quote and a telling story. Much as I like Gallo I'm not sure he fits the bill for cap'n those 'talians are as volatile as us Greeks/Armenians. Better look to the cool headed ones. For now this will likely be Amar'e or Felton by default.

Markji wrote:

Olbrannon wrote:

sidsanders wrote:http://www.nba.com/knicks/legends2010/reed_captain.html

"Red used to tell me 'Listen, sometimes I'm going to have to raise hell with you and get on you' and I'd say 'Why?' and he'd say 'Sometimes I've got to raise hell because I've got to send a message and I can't raise hell with every guy on the team because some guys can't take it. But if I raise hell with you, the captain, then every guy gets the message' and I understood. But that's the kind of relationship we had."

do we have a player like this on the team yet? we shall see. do we have a coach who can use the capn to get things straight, i dont know...

Good quote and a telling story. Much as I like Gallo I'm not sure he fits the bill for cap'n those 'talians are as volatile as us Greeks/Armenians. Better look to the cool headed ones. For now this will likely be Amar'e or Felton by default.

Willis was, is and will always be "The Captain" of the Knicks.

True. There's no candidate here like Willis. But I expect someone - probably Amare - will step up and do the job.

misterearl wrote:Marc Berman can jack off about Stephon Marbury until his right hand falls off.

Priceless.

Damn, Earl.

Malik rose and Q-rich said the same thing 2 years ago when MDA got hired..I will also take into accout that, they started out that year pretty good until they traded zach and jC, then the marbury issue, and 7 man rotation completely sabotage any chemistry they had going