TMS wrote:BRIGGS, as long as we're entertaining fantasy land questions, since i addressed your idea that Ray Felton is going to put up 16 & 10 this year, maybe you can answer the question i posed to you?

TMS--the Chris Paul issue is done as far as I'm concerned. NY fans tend to have a fetish with names because of the Yankees but were on an excellent course here.

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TMS wrote:BRIGGS, as long as we're entertaining fantasy land questions, since i addressed your idea that Ray Felton is going to put up 16 & 10 this year, maybe you can answer the question i posed to you?

TMS--the Chris Paul issue is done as far as I'm concerned. NY fans tend to have a fetish with names because of the Yankees but were on an excellent course here.

the course we're on is hedging our bets until a superstar comes along, same thing we've been doing for the past 2 years... believe it... that's why Ray Felton was only signed to 2 years & that's why Gallo & Wilson will not get their contracts extended anytime soon.

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sidsanders wrote:guess: see how the young folks progress and as the time arrives to extend or pass, they pass. this does lead to your point of if that happens, why not pull the trigger now. the uncertainty of this team is wha may stop it. these guys might turn out really well and prevent the need for at least anthony (in no way am i sold on this guy as a savior).

let's say AR turns into a 16 & 9 guy like BRIGGS projected... do u think the Knicks would hedge on trading him away if they could get Carmelo Anthony? i don't... & i agree w/u btw, i'm not sold on him as being a savior either... i would much rather get a guy who can provide some leadership & make his teammates better... MDA's system is predicated on having a thinking PG on the floor to orchestrate the action... CP3 fits the mold perfectly... we need him a lot more than we need Melo at this point.

maybe felton works out well, though thats a lot the team is counting on to step up: felton, gallo, ar, chandler, douglas, walker, etc. id like to avoid needing either paul/anthony just to avoid the same poop with chasing lbj/wade/etc.

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BRIGGS wrote:

TMS wrote:BRIGGS, as long as we're entertaining fantasy land questions, since i addressed your idea that Ray Felton is going to put up 16 & 10 this year, maybe you can answer the question i posed to you?

TMS--the Chris Paul issue is done as far as I'm concerned. NY fans tend to have a fetish with names because of the Yankees but were on an excellent course here.

the course we're on is hedging our bets until a superstar comes along, same thing we've been doing for the past 2 years... believe it... that's why Ray Felton was only signed to 2 years & that's why Gallo & Wilson will not get their contracts extended anytime soon.

I agree with this. All of the moves we've made have left us the flexibility to go after one or two more big stars. However, I do think it also left us the possibility of going with a young team and seeing what happens, as a backup. To be honest, this is the first time in a long time where we can say that we have at least a few plans that look promising.

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newyorknewyork wrote:In 2011 Curry & Bookey come off the books Chandler has a qualifying offer.

That gives us the money to sign Melo in 2011. In 2012, Gallo, Randolph have qualifying offers, Felton has a team option, Douglas has a team option, Mozgov has a TO, Turiaf comes off the books.

If Amare is making 20mil, Melo is making 18mil and the salary cap is 55mil, that leaves the knicks with 17mil to sign Paul to the same contract as Melo and Amare.

So yes its possible to sign Melo and CP3 in 11 and 12 just not likely.

that means we let all the young guys folks dont want to trade walk for little to nothing to get this done by 2012. thats what tms is asking, why are some opposed to trading them now if we let them walk in 2 years.

Yep and TMS as always has a very solid position. Only thing I can think of is by then we will know what impact the surgery had on CP3. Problem is if we allow this to happen we also risk adding another two years of wear and tear to that knee. It's Donnie's job to figure out which is the lower risk of the two, personally I am with TMS on this.

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umynot wrote:

TMS wrote:

umynot wrote: Then Melo is easily attainable with Curry Uzzubuke Chandler Douglas

please take the advice i offered to eViL earlier.

Just talking money wise TMS not talent nor value of course

But think about it if you add this years pick ( regardles if it ours or houstons) and 2012

its way more value then losing him.......But finically it works thanks to currys 12 mil

let's get this straight, we are not getting Carmelo Anthony for that package... that's like saying we could steal CP3 away from the Hornets this summer for a bag of magic beans, 2 second rounders & some cap space... it ain't gonna happen... players like CP3 & Carmelo Anthony are going to require some real assets to obtain in a trade, unless of course they sign w/us as free agents, in which case like i said before we will have to let our young players like Wilson & Gallo walk anyway because we won't be able to afford to keep them.

btw, we can't include this year's pick in any trade deals until AFTER we make the pick... we can trade the player's draft rights, but can't trade the pick because our pick in 2012 is already forfeit & teams aren't allowed to trade 1st round picks in consecutive seasons... so the earliest pick we could offer any team in a trade now would be our 2014... sorry, but that isn't going to entice anyone.

I disagree that Denver wont consider some kinda package that started with Curry( small markets watch cap space just a fact) ...... Maybe AR has to be in included ........ Also think its best to acquire them via trade just from a like up stand point!

I read your question as how is it possible no plausible

Just showed that finically it's possible

I'f it was up to me I would go hard for Melo over Paul ( Can't wait till Melo speaks btw)

Give AR Walker Chandler and Curry's contract for Melo add Fucking 10 picks i wouldn't mind at all . Not planning on finding
gem with late round picks nor early pick for that matter once we have Melo

Wouldn,t mind both if we can still keep Gallo....... Key for me is Gallo staying put!!