LivingLegend wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:why in Gods name would i even consider trading either of these guys--and I wasnt so sure about Gallo at the start--that shows I play a straight shooter.

we have three superstars on the frontline--- Chris paul Give me Ray felton and let me keep my guys--find some impact bench players and go to war.

If you had the choice which foursome would you prefer?

Felton, Gallo, Randolph, Amare
Paul, Melo, Randolph, Amare

I take the latter and think getting (or keeping) these guys is possible if we gave up Gallo to get Paul.

How about this line up in two years

Randolph
Stoudemire
Gallinari
Melo
Paul
Chandler
Fields
Jordan
Douglas

why exactly am I giving away anyone when I can be patient and go with what I have--NO matter what happens--Chris Pauls contract expires in2 years.

playa2 wrote:

Nalod wrote:
Gallo is a 6-10 big fram 21 year old kid filling out and is one of the leagues best shooters with a decent handle.

Randolph is a underdeveloped body with great athletic ability but low fundamentals and bad shot selection. His potential is great but he has not established himself like gallo has nor proven to stay healthy.

They have very different games. Gallo can open the floor up and given his size and ability it is not a common skill set.

Most people feel that if you bring in Paul you need this type of ball player.

If you want to bring in Carmello and it was a trade senario then Gallo would be expendable.

I like the idea of both AR and Gallo.

Your original distain for Gallo's hype being of a community background.

What is really "alarming" about the desire for many fans to want to keep Gallo?

He is a drafted player by us who posses shooting ability, works hard and is marketable.

I can only guess what really "alarms" you!

You really think the league lacks black marketable players?

You are wayyyy off man.

You make Randolph who started his pro career playing with a nutty coach (Don sippy cup Nelson)some kind of under privelege kid who can't walk and chew bubble gum.

Danphoney himself last night on KNICKS LIVE TALK said Gallo can't just try and come to play in certain situations or 4th qtrs heroics but play consistently ALL DURING THE GAME for 82 games. He said that Gallo's head has to be into an entire game. That sounds just as dysfunctional as your trying to make Randolph saying his fundamentals are poor and he has bad shot selection.

What I was trying is this, You can't put one over the other, they both are 21 yrs of age and both missed a ton of games at least 1 yr in their career, but Gallo has actually played professionally since he was 16 yrs of age with grown men.

Stop with the color thing man, this is about skills on the basketball court.

So now your taking "DANPHONY" at his word?

We can agree on few things and that both are not Prime time.

Gallo is not a go to player in crunch time.

AR is actually self admitted to be too emotional.

Neither are superstars, but they both have nice upsides.

"Ebony, Ivory.....living together in perfect harmony......."

Simply put, Gallo and AR are far from that.

playa2 wrote:

Marv wrote:gallo and ar are SO far off from being superstars that this discussion is ridiculous. both have huge holes in their games. they’re young and skilled so could both develop into something, but at this point it is pure speculation. they could both easily become nothing more than journeymen.

Ha you might get stoned around here saying that. CP3 IS ESTABLISHED, but we compare him to those two LOL

Would you say Tracy McGrady is established?
I think the only question about CP is his knee. If that is 100% there's no question he's a superstar. But we don't know that.

tkf wrote:

playa2 wrote:People are talking like Gallo has done more and shown people in the LEAGUE more than Randolph and that's alarming to me.

Some say CP3 if he comes to NY WE HAVE TO GIVE UP Randolph and Chandler ,but never Gallo and Chandler WHY IS THAT ?

In this system if both Gallup and Randolph remain healthy I think Randolph covers more ground(ALL AROUND) for the Knicks than any other player on the team including Amare.

the difference is that gallo stretches the floor.. with a PG like paul and an inside player like amare, that is worth more than a slash/midrange player... IMO

TKF what you left out is Randolph plays just as effective on both ends of the court, that's what I meant about all-around.

BRIGGS wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:why in Gods name would i even consider trading either of these guys--and I wasnt so sure about Gallo at the start--that shows I play a straight shooter.

we have three superstars on the frontline--- Chris paul Give me Ray felton and let me keep my guys--find some impact bench players and go to war.

If you had the choice which foursome would you prefer?

Felton, Gallo, Randolph, Amare
Paul, Melo, Randolph, Amare

I take the latter and think getting (or keeping) these guys is possible if we gave up Gallo to get Paul.

How about this line up in two years

Randolph
Stoudemire
Gallinari
Melo
Paul
Chandler
Fields
Jordan
Douglas

why exactly am I giving away anyone when I can be patient and go with what I have--NO matter what happens--Chris Pauls contract expires in2 years.

Patience is great to have but it can backfire also. We had patience for LeBron and it never materialized. This is sports and things tend not to stay status quo. Injuries, age are all factors to be considered. This is Amare's time for the next 3-4 years after that who knows what happens. Banking on the Young doesn't always mean that they will be great players. The could simply show a glimpse of greatness only to fizzle out. I like being patient but there is a time to strike and go for it this is one time the Knicks have to go for it. Having Paul makes the Knicks better immediately and there is no looking into a crystal ball on the future. The deal that will be made for Paul will be a very fair deal. Walsh has always done deals fairly and he tends to be patient so I do trust what he will do. What he does usually has a plan with multiple steps in mind.

Vmart wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:why in Gods name would i even consider trading either of these guys--and I wasnt so sure about Gallo at the start--that shows I play a straight shooter.

we have three superstars on the frontline--- Chris paul Give me Ray felton and let me keep my guys--find some impact bench players and go to war.

If you had the choice which foursome would you prefer?

Felton, Gallo, Randolph, Amare
Paul, Melo, Randolph, Amare

I take the latter and think getting (or keeping) these guys is possible if we gave up Gallo to get Paul.

How about this line up in two years

Randolph
Stoudemire
Gallinari
Melo
Paul
Chandler
Fields
Jordan
Douglas

why exactly am I giving away anyone when I can be patient and go with what I have--NO matter what happens--Chris Pauls contract expires in2 years.

Patience is great to have but it can backfire also. We had patience for LeBron and it never materialized. This is sports and things tend not to stay status quo. Injuries, age are all factors to be considered. This is Amare's time for the next 3-4 years after that who knows what happens. Banking on the Young doesn't always mean that they will be great players. The could simply show a glimpse of greatness only to fizzle out. I like being patient but there is a time to strike and go for it this is one time the Knicks have to go for it. Having Paul makes the Knicks better immediately and there is no looking into a crystal ball on the future. The deal that will be made for Paul will be a very fair deal. Walsh has always done deals fairly and he tends to be patient so I do trust what he will do. What he does usually has a plan with multiple steps in mind.

Totally agree. As I said, the potential we see in AR, Gallo and even Felton may never be realized. The longer we wait, the more time AR/Gallo have to be exposed. What if Gallo's back gives out again? What if AR slight frame isn't able to hold up ala Marcus Camby as he continues to play with reckless abandon? The longer we wait the more things change. The team we have right now is going to battle for the 8th seed. A core of Paul, Amare and Gallo or AR is top 4 in the east. A few more pieces to that core and we are talking about a team that can compete for a championship.

iSergio wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:You can't just throw the word "superstar" around like its a hot potato. It's a pretty powerful word in terms of describing athletes.

Simply put, Gallo and AR are far from that.

Reminds me of when people didn't want to trade Channing Frye or Trevor Ariza for the same reasons.

how can you throw those two out there as an example? neither of the trades they were involved in helped our team.

I say sit still.

The only thing we need is to enhance the bench