joec32033 wrote:Guys I feel are just better than Bosh-in no particular order:

Kobe
Wade
Lebron
Dirk
Paul
Deron
Dwight
Durant
Duncan
Carmelo
Nash
Roy
Amare

I feel Bosh is on the same level as guys like :

Rose-presently
Gasol(Pau)
Joe Johnson
Arenas
Boozer
Granger
Kevin Martin
Baron
Parker
Pierce

And he is a step above guys like:

Kaman
West
Lee
Ellis
Iggy
Manu
Jamison
Rip
Josh Smith
Gerald Wallace

Mosst of your list is reasonable but I don't think any non-Knicks fan would put Amare ahead of Pau and I'm sure the Lakers would laugh if you tried offered swapping the two. Pau is an amazing passer, very good rebounder, and good shot-blocker. He also has a health advantage. I think almost any team is would be willing to get only about 18 PPG (Pau) rather than 23 (Amare) if you can get significantly better passing, rebounding, and shot-blocking from the 18 PPG guy. My guess is Bosh and Amare are about a tie among non-Knick fans in terms of performance when healthy but the majority would give the edge to Bosh once you consider injury history.

Allanfan20 wrote:

TMS wrote:people are minimalizing Chris Bosh's game cuz we didn't sign him... if we signed him they'd be praising DW for nabbing 1 of the top bigmen in the league.

Not me. I never really wanted him from the start. I thought he was overrated for a couple of years now, and have come to realize that his defense is just as bad as David Lees, which I have been pointing out. Even before free agency.

if we had signed him, would you have been upset about it? i wouldn't have, & he wasn't tops on my wishlist either... i'm happy we got Amare, but i would have been happy if we got Bosh too... i think Bosh is easily one of the top 5 bigmen in the league.

Ira wrote:Bosh and Gasol are hard to compare because their games are different. All in all, I think Bosh is a little better, but I'd rather have Gasol because he can play center.

I would have been very happy with Bosh in a Knicks' uniform, but I would rather have Gasol and what he brings to the mix.

Panos wrote:

TMS wrote:people are minimalizing Chris Bosh's game cuz we didn't sign him... if we signed him they'd be praising DW for nabbing 1 of the top bigmen in the league.

I never liked Bosh, and I said so many times before this played out.

you don't gotta like a player to acknowledge his talent... he's not 1 of the top bigmen in the NBA in your estimation?

Panos wrote:

TMS wrote:

Panos wrote:

TMS wrote:people are minimalizing Chris Bosh's game cuz we didn't sign him... if we signed him they'd be praising DW for nabbing 1 of the top bigmen in the league.

I never liked Bosh, and I said so many times before this played out.

you don't gotta like a player to acknowledge his talent... he's not 1 of the top bigmen in the NBA in your estimation?

He may be, but I really was not keen to see him in a Knicks uniform, and am glad we got Amare instead.

i'm glad we got Amare too, but again this has nothing to do with whether you wanted him or not... i think had we signed Bosh there wouldn't be anyone complaining about it on these forums either the way they might have for instance if we had signed Joe Johnson to his max deal.

TMS wrote:

Panos wrote:

TMS wrote:

Panos wrote:

TMS wrote:people are minimalizing Chris Bosh's game cuz we didn't sign him... if we signed him they'd be praising DW for nabbing 1 of the top bigmen in the league.

I never liked Bosh, and I said so many times before this played out.

you don't gotta like a player to acknowledge his talent... he's not 1 of the top bigmen in the NBA in your estimation?

He may be, but I really was not keen to see him in a Knicks uniform, and am glad we got Amare instead.

i'm glad we got Amare too, but again this has nothing to do with whether you wanted him or not... i think had we signed Bosh there wouldn't be anyone complaining about it on these forums either the way they might have for instance if we had signed Joe Johnson to his max deal.

I think the bar was set so low for so long that we would've been thrilled with either player. I think it's fair to say that Amare is better on offense and Bosh is probably the more balanced player. People may be happy about Amare because it's fair to say that we have a good idea what you're getting from Amare in a D'Antoni system and Amare is probably a better fit for that system. Don't forget, there was a lot of talk that if we had gotten Bosh + Joe Johnson that we still weren't that great a team. I, did take those as shots at Bosh, as well as Joe Johnson.

Of course, if you're simply reflecting on human nature, well it's probably a good sign that the fans on this board are giving a boost to Knicks players, because that hasn't always been the case. In recent years, Knicks fans have downgraded Knicks starters into being end of the bench guys, solid Knicks role players as being not fit to be in the NBA at all, etc... If there's a slight wind going in the other direction for a change, I think it's a good thing.

As for me, do I think Amare is better than Bosh? Tough call. I think Amare will have a better season than Bosh, hands down, though.

nyvector16 wrote:
3. Bosh will have trouble getting any sponsorship deals unless he gets one of his man-handlers to come along for the ride(Lebron or Wade).

That's an interesting angle. I really hope NY, specifically success in NY, nets Amare some nice endorsement contracts. As magnificent as he was, even Ewing was overshadowed in this regard. I don't want the legend of NY being a place for athletes to make bank to turn into myth. I want future FA's wanting a piece of the action.

I'm just a bigger Amar'e fan. One because yea, he's a Knick and Bosh is not. And another, I just feel that Amar'e just brings much more toughness to our roster, and he has swag that Bosh lacks.

Stant Tall and Talented baby.

DrAlphaeus wrote:Man, all three of my eyes are on the refs on how they call fouls against the Scheme Team(TM) this season. When you have a team out there with a bunch of stars, that's more players on your team who may get that "star" benefit from the Zebras. No Donaghy.

Remember, there are three teams running on the court: home, away, and the folks in the slacks.