Cosmic wrote:

martin wrote:

Cosmic wrote:What in the hell?

Who? Why?

....What the hell is going on.

Really? We killed Max-2011 cap space... on some big gigantic mongoloid that nobody knows about?

Really?????????

Wow....

But, well, give it time, somebody will declare him our starting center for the next 10 years I'm sure.

dude is signed for $3M. you don't think we could dump/trade $3M?

Why did we just sign a complete unknown piece of crap player for 3M per year? To do what? Who wants to trade for him?

This is our power move to fill out the roster? Giving this bum hack nobody knows about a THREE YEAR deal? Really?

Come'on. I must be dreaming....

Draft express has him rated pretty highly as an overseas free agent. I never heard of him, but I reserve judgment. He looks a bit stiff (like most 7 footers) but otherwise mechanically sound in his vids.

Paladin55 wrote:So Donnie f'n lied to us? He said he was done with the FA market.

Have we ever had this much beef and length on our front line? This guy sounds like a moose.

Maybe this is the enforcer who is going to give up some hard fouls against the guy whose posse questioned Walsh's virility?

This signing is all about the kind of players Walsh wants on a team. Based on the comments I read about his offensive skills I can't see that MDA would want this guy as a 5. Getting this guy is all Donnie. I think there is some tension going on between him and MDA. I also think the GS trade is one Walsh wanted more than MDA.

We have enough bulk to actually inspire some fear in people who try to drive on our basket. Folks expecting a free ride to our hoop are going to be facing a rude reality this season.

By the way- how does this set back our cap room?

Hey Palladin 55 I don't hide that Im not really a fan of how mDA coaches basketball--maybe it looks snazzy but I prefer the way DW built up the Indiana frontline--hey that was a time when there were many big teams and getting to the basket wasnt easy. We just saw a monsterous Laker team win it all two times in a row. You have to be able to play defense and rebound to win and you need big guys to score easy points and clog the lane on D. If I had my pick for this team--I would go with a Mark jackson--he had good things to say about Randolph and I just see him-=--as a guy who played for a lot of good coaches--he was here when Pitino used 10 guys --I just think a guy like M Jackson would be better for this team. Thats just the way I see it. I see Mark Jackson like a Scotty Brooks like coach.

Cosmic wrote:

martin wrote:so Cos, ever seen this dude? ... and you still have a forgone opinion?

I don't think it's far fetched to assume that he's garbage.

Seeing him or not.

Bet ya when I see him my opinion of him will get WORSE. If that's possible. Yeah, it's probably possible.

Come'on now.

Nothing to defend here everything to BASH. THREE YEARS for some hack we've never seen? That nobody has ever seen? I can imagine Sloth from Goonies stepping out onto the court.....

Do you understand how dumb and offensive you sound sometimes, bro? Calling this guy Sloth because he's a tall Russian guy? I mean, seriously, this is 2010. Open your mind a little bit.

Cosmic wrote:

martin wrote:so Cos, ever seen this dude? ... and you still have a forgone opinion?

I don't think it's far fetched to assume that he's garbage.

Seeing him or not.

Bet ya when I see him my opinion of him will get WORSE. If that's possible. Yeah, it's probably possible.

Come'on now.

Nothing to defend here everything to BASH. THREE YEARS for some hack we've never seen? That nobody has ever seen? I can imagine Sloth from Goonies stepping out onto the court.....

Cosmic I guess when the Spurs got Manu Ginobli--he was a shtty hack from Argetenia--hey Im not the biggest on Euros but we did have success with Gallinari so lets keep an open mind

EwingsGlass wrote:

	             2010 Under Contract	2011 Under Contract
Eddy Curry	          11,276,863.00	                       0.00
Danilo Gallinari	   3,304,560.00	               4,190,182.00
Wilson Chandler	           2,130,481.00                	       0.00
Toney Douglas	           1,071,000.00	               1,145,640.00
Andy Rautins	             473,604.00   	         513,860.34
Landry Fields	             473,604.00	                 513,860.34
Bill Walker	             854,389.00	                 916,100.00
Jerome Jordan	             473,604.00	                 513,860.34
Kelenna Azubuike	   3,364,000.00	                       0.00
Anthony Randolph	   1,965,720.00	               2,911,231.00
Ronny Turiaf	           4,000,000.00	               4,360,000.00 (Player Option)
Amare Stoudemire       	  16,500,000.00	              18,232,500.00
Ray Felton	           7,500,000.00	               8,100,000.00
Timofey Mozgov	           3,000,000.00	               3,240,000.00
		
		
		
Under Contract	          56,387,825.00	              44,637,234.02
Salary Cap	          58,044,000.00	              59,785,320.00
Cap Space	           1,656,175.00	              15,148,085.98

Cosmic, max cap space is pretty well intaxt. The $2M (call it $4m since there will be a 1st rd draft pick) can be made up since we have a lot of low cost young players. You cannot expect Ronny Turiaf to exercise a $4.36M player option, that will me they still have room for a maxp player. Also, $3M for a 7'1 center who appears to be athletic would seem to be a great coup. Also, I think the word on the street is that the Carmelo trade will happen sooner rather than later. There is talk that it will happen prior to training camp. I wouldn't bank on that, but, we are going to be ok in that sense.

Thanks Ewing - was just wondering how much this did really impact our cap space next year.
Question though. The 2011 contracts for Gallo, Douglas, Randolph, and Walker are all team options. Do we have to pick up the team options before signing FA's or could we hold off and use that as additional cap space?

EwingsGlass wrote:

Cosmic wrote:

martin wrote:so Cos, ever seen this dude? ... and you still have a forgone opinion?

I don't think it's far fetched to assume that he's garbage.

Seeing him or not.

Bet ya when I see him my opinion of him will get WORSE. If that's possible. Yeah, it's probably possible.

Come'on now.

Nothing to defend here everything to BASH. THREE YEARS for some hack we've never seen? That nobody has ever seen? I can imagine Sloth from Goonies stepping out onto the court.....

Lol... you been drinkin? I been working on my liquor cabinet tonite... somehow, my fiancee is sleeping and I am here with a spreadsheet open talking about some 7'1 russo and trying to figure out why you dislike him so much. Did he delonte west you or something?

You got me. I am ripped.

Yet even if I were sober.......there is no way I'd be as ecstatic about signing some gigantic pituitary gland factory from Russia as some are.

What is going on here I won't ever understand.

Yet it seems suddenly this guy is a fan favorite destined for stardom who will lift the lowly Knicks to NBA finals contention... or well, something. Although, that is probably the case of beer and bottle of tequila I destroyed with my neighbor tonight talking.

Still, the idea stands: WHO THE HELL? WHY ARE YOU GUYS SO HIGH ON THIS WORTHLESS MEAT BAG?

Wow... we're reduced to this, huh, being excited about someone that probably can't even add 1+1.

Great. I feel good now. Knicks 2011 champs!

MaTT4281 wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

	             2010 Under Contract	2011 Under Contract
Eddy Curry	          11,276,863.00	                       0.00
Danilo Gallinari	   3,304,560.00	               4,190,182.00
Wilson Chandler	           2,130,481.00                	       0.00
Toney Douglas	           1,071,000.00	               1,145,640.00
Andy Rautins	             473,604.00   	         513,860.34
Landry Fields	             473,604.00	                 513,860.34
Bill Walker	             854,389.00	                 916,100.00
Jerome Jordan	             473,604.00	                 513,860.34
Kelenna Azubuike	   3,364,000.00	                       0.00
Anthony Randolph	   1,965,720.00	               2,911,231.00
Ronny Turiaf	           4,000,000.00	               4,360,000.00 (Player Option)
Amare Stoudemire       	  16,500,000.00	              18,232,500.00
Ray Felton	           7,500,000.00	               8,100,000.00
Timofey Mozgov	           3,000,000.00	               3,240,000.00
		
		
		
Under Contract	          56,387,825.00	              44,637,234.02
Salary Cap	          58,044,000.00	              59,785,320.00
Cap Space	           1,656,175.00	              15,148,085.98

Cosmic, max cap space is pretty well intaxt. The $2M (call it $4m since there will be a 1st rd draft pick) can be made up since we have a lot of low cost young players. You cannot expect Ronny Turiaf to exercise a $4.36M player option, that will me they still have room for a maxp player. Also, $3M for a 7'1 center who appears to be athletic would seem to be a great coup. Also, I think the word on the street is that the Carmelo trade will happen sooner rather than later. There is talk that it will happen prior to training camp. I wouldn't bank on that, but, we are going to be ok in that sense.

Thanks Ewing - was just wondering how much this did really impact our cap space next year.
Question though. The 2011 contracts for Gallo, Douglas, Randolph, and Walker are all team options. Do we have to pick up the team options before signing FA's or could we hold off and use that as additional cap space?

Can't use those as cap space. They would have capholds of the same amounts until we resigned them or renounced them.

BRIGGS wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:So Donnie f'n lied to us? He said he was done with the FA market.

Have we ever had this much beef and length on our front line? This guy sounds like a moose.

Maybe this is the enforcer who is going to give up some hard fouls against the guy whose posse questioned Walsh's virility?

This signing is all about the kind of players Walsh wants on a team. Based on the comments I read about his offensive skills I can't see that MDA would want this guy as a 5. Getting this guy is all Donnie. I think there is some tension going on between him and MDA. I also think the GS trade is one Walsh wanted more than MDA.

We have enough bulk to actually inspire some fear in people who try to drive on our basket. Folks expecting a free ride to our hoop are going to be facing a rude reality this season.

By the way- how does this set back our cap room?

Hey Palladin 55 I don't hide that Im not really a fan of how mDA coaches basketball--maybe it looks snazzy but I prefer the way DW built up the Indiana frontline--hey that was a time when there were many big teams and getting to the basket wasnt easy. We just saw a monsterous Laker team win it all two times in a row. You have to be able to play defense and rebound to win and you need big guys to score easy points and clog the lane on D. If I had my pick for this team--I would go with a Mark jackson--he had good things to say about Randolph and I just see him-=--as a guy who played for a lot of good coaches--he was here when Pitino used 10 guys --I just think a guy like M Jackson would be better for this team. Thats just the way I see it. I see Mark Jackson like a Scotty Brooks like coach.

EwingsGlass wrote:

Cosmic wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

Cosmic wrote:

martin wrote:so Cos, ever seen this dude? ... and you still have a forgone opinion?

I don't think it's far fetched to assume that he's garbage.

Seeing him or not.

Bet ya when I see him my opinion of him will get WORSE. If that's possible. Yeah, it's probably possible.

Come'on now.

Nothing to defend here everything to BASH. THREE YEARS for some hack we've never seen? That nobody has ever seen? I can imagine Sloth from Goonies stepping out onto the court.....

Lol... you been drinkin? I been working on my liquor cabinet tonite... somehow, my fiancee is sleeping and I am here with a spreadsheet open talking about some 7'1 russo and trying to figure out why you dislike him so much. Did he delonte west you or something?

You got me. I am ripped.

Yet even if I were sober.......there is no way I'd be as ecstatic about signing some gigantic pituitary gland factory from Russia as some are.

What is going on here I won't ever understand.

Yet it seems suddenly this guy is a fan favorite destined for stardom who will lift the lowly Knicks to NBA finals contention... or well, something. Although, that is probably the case of beer and bottle of tequila I destroyed with my neighbor tonight talking.

Still, the idea stands: WHO THE HELL? WHY ARE YOU GUYS SO HIGH ON THIS WORTHLESS MEAT BAG?

Wow... we're reduced to this, huh, being excited about someone that probably can't even add 1+1.

Great. I feel good now. Knicks 2011 champs!

Nobody is calling him the next Biedrins even (DISCLAIMER-- THIS KID IS THE NEXT BIEDRINS!!!!)--- lol... just saying $3m doesn't seem like so much for a 7'1 Drago.

Notice how Cosmic never answers the posts that make sense (like mine) and instead repeats himself over and over, then throws in lame stuff like us calling him a fan favorite and leading us to the NBA Finals? Eventually posters just give up and move on. It's a theme. Cosmic never fails. Guy is the Jamal Crawford of posters.