loweyecue wrote:Seriously Isles get a grip. It's just basketball.

What happen to other guys calling him names? Anyway I had NOOOOO faith that LBJ was coming to NY maybe when he's old and broken down, that when superstars show up in NYC

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Bonn1997 wrote:

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CrushAlot wrote:Walsh's plan was very flawed, he let everyone know what it was and he was taken advantage of and gave up too much in his attempt to execute it. That being said if he gets Randolph, Turiaf and signs Shawn Livingston while maintaining cap space I will be pleased.

CO-SIGN ^

Agreed. People need to realize that getting Randolph has nothing to do with the 2010 plan since we could have signed and traded Lee even if we were over the cap.

WTF!! And you think we would have S&T'd him if we had no caproom to sign a superior pf?! What you saying is bs Bonnie. Getting Randolph and anyone else we now pick up is directly related to the caproom we freed up. If you say otherwise, youre being a blind fool.

Please explain why it would have been impossible to do a sign and trade with Lee if we were over the cap

Do you thnk that the Knicks would sign and trade their only All-Star for a talented but unproven kid if they didn't sign Amare first? Or perhaps you think Amare would have cone here knowing he was coming to join Jared Jeffries in a capped out team with no shortterm prospects of a retool?

Listen we would have had a better chance of getting Lebron if we did not trade Crawford and Zack right away. We needed to win games and get to the playoffs. We would have done that if we kept Zack and Crawford for an extra year and not trading away all of our draft picks. We were loosers the last few years and being in New York ment nothing. LeBron smacked us in the face and laugh at us. As I said before no one is coming hear so lets not get on the Mello Kick. No body likes us and no one will give us the pieces to win. We were never in the LeBron race. So now lets just move on. We still need to get Rid of D'Antoni. He is now on the clock.

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Listen we would have had a better chance of getting Lebron if we did not trade Crawford and Zack right away. We needed to win games and get to the playoffs. We would have done that if we kept Zack and Crawford for an extra year and not trading away all of our draft picks. We were loosers the last few years and being in New York ment nothing. LeBron smacked us in the face and laugh at us. As I said before no one is coming hear so lets not get on the Mello Kick. No body likes us and no one will give us the pieces to win. We were never in the LeBron race. So now lets just move on. We still need to get Rid of D'Antoni. He is now on the clock.

Forget Crawford. Al Harrington is better than him. The Zach Randolph trade was poorly handled as was the Hill trade. Panic moves. Haste makes waste.

oohah

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Listen we would have had a better chance of getting Lebron if we did not trade Crawford and Zack right away. We needed to win games and get to the playoffs. We would have done that if we kept Zack and Crawford for an extra year and not trading away all of our draft picks. We were loosers the last few years and being in New York ment nothing. LeBron smacked us in the face and laugh at us. As I said before no one is coming hear so lets not get on the Mello Kick. No body likes us and no one will give us the pieces to win. We were never in the LeBron race. So now lets just move on. We still need to get Rid of D'Antoni. He is now on the clock.

how was making the playoffs with guys who were not part of the future gonna make anyone think this was the place to go? in the end, it didnt help chi and they have some decent young players as well. we needed a top tier guy who either would be here or would resign as part of a playoff run if that woulda made any diff.

Pharzeone wrote:Someone has to show me how much of an impact that MDA has had on this team because to date I hadn't seen anything. He was paid big money to attract big time FAs.

Donnie just spent 2 years tearing things down and we are 1 day into building it back up.

So far Amare. And a trade that nets Potential, defense and bigs.

3 of the biggest FA just went to 1 place. The next JJ stayed home and thank god, same with Gay. Booz was a duplication of Amare.

Time for more work for Donnie and MDA.

We still have a lot of flexibility and I think we are slowly building a decent team that fits what we're trying to do.

If anyone wants to jump ship, go ahead. I'll tell you what though, I just realized tonight that I will always be a Knick fan no matter what. Maybe that will lead to more heartbreak, maybe not, who knows. The only thing I want now is to see the Knicks build a team to take out the Heat....nothing would be more satisfying.

Sangfroid wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

Loconixfan wrote:actually everyne who just said something negative about walsh or mda should be banned from the forum because they're obviously NOT real knicks fans!!!

GM's and Coaches are graded on RESULTS NOT Good Intentions.

Walsh's plan FAILED. End of Story.

Lebron was never in the bag when we made the trades.

If your going to judge the entire plan on wether or not you get Lebron, than you're short sighted. There was no guarantee that he would come to NY, as a matter of fact, you sound like a fan who guaged all movements by getting Lebron. Now that he is off the table, you don't want to play.

That's generally the setup for those who opposed the plan - that it was always about Lebron and anything short of LeBron is a failure. If you buy that premise, then of course they're right. If you believe that something less than LeBron is still workable, then then they're not right - not yet. I would say we'll know next season. If we have a winning team and if we make the playoffs, then the Knicks are arguably legitimate again. If it's a 23 win season, then these guys will have a good reason to crow.