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7/6/2010  11:50 AM
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Markji wrote:By us signing Amar'e, we stirred the pot and the other teams are now scrambling to try to get something done. If this rumor is true, if Bosh goes to Cleveland then I think Wade will sign with the Knicks as we offer the best opportunity to win.

depends b/c the bulls can sign wade + lee to go with rose + deng + noah.

No, because you need 2 superstars to really have a chance of winning it all. I like Lee a lot, but he won't make the Big difference. And Rose will take ball possessions from Wade who needs a pass first PG. Wade needs Bosh and if Bosh goes to Cleveland, then his best alternative is Amar'e. Wade signs with us.

I think we're his best alternative... but i really don't see him wanting to be here...

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7/6/2010  11:50 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/6/2010  11:51 AM
I just commented on this before on another thread --- I can't see this at all. Cleveland has nothing to offer for Chris Bosh in a trade --- and I don't consider any of the proposals being discussed here to be any good...

If Lebron wants to get stupid, we could get real stupid --- Say Lebron never even wanted NY and we get good indication that he really wants Bosh in Cleveland so he can stay home---Ultimately up to Bosh I guess but if I'm Donnie, I get involved in this...The Knicks using any combination of Lee, Chandler, Douglas...even Gallo perhaps, could offer Toronto a much better package than anything Cleveland had to offer...If we really wanted to we could bring in Bosh for a second meeting, tell him we want him & get him on board possibly and then call up Colangelo with a much better S&T offer..Bosh & Amar'e together is a little redundant but I think it could work...Or we could get ourselves directly involved as a threat in order to pry LeBron loose from Cleveland in a 'coemto NY otherwise we'll move on w/o you and go get Bosh ourselves kinda way...maybe we don't come right out and say exactly that, maybe we just come out with a false report that we actually really want Bosh and that we could make Amar'e & Bosh work together...An interesting stategy but knowing our luck, it would backfire and force LeBron to Chicago or to join Wade in Miami..LOL..

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7/6/2010  11:50 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/6/2010  11:51 AM
Finestrg wrote:If Lebron wants to get stupid, we could get real stupid --- Say Lebron never even wanted NY and we get good indication that he really wants Bosh in Cleveland so he can stay home---Ultimately up to Bosh I guess but if I'm Donnie, I get involved in this...The Knicks using any combination of Lee, Chandler, Douglas...even Gallo perhaps, could offer Toronto a much better package than anything Cleveland had to offer...If we really wanted to we could bring in Bosh for a second meeting, tell him we want him & get him on board possibly and then call up Colangelo with a much better S&T offer..Bosh & Amar'e together is a little redundant but I think it could work...Or we could get ourselves directly involved as a threat in order to pry LeBron loose from Cleveland in a 'coemto NY otherwise we'll move on w/o you and go get Bosh ourselves kinda way...maybe we don't come right out and say exactly that, maybe we just come out with a false report that we actually really want Bosh and that we could make Amar'e & Bosh work together...An interesting stategy but knowing our luck, it would backfire and force LeBron to Chicago or to join Wade in Miami..LOL..

That's not happening... that's kind of ridiculous, man. No way does Bosh agree to come here to play with Amare. It makes no sense.

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7/6/2010  11:53 AM
We have seen Pau Gasol get traded for pocket lint.
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7/6/2010  11:58 AM
AnubisADL wrote:We have seen Pau Gasol get traded for pocket lint.

Lets not forget Jerry West was the GM of the Grizzles when Gasol got traded for a bag of garbage , you know that was some shady stuff right there he did the Lakers a favor and then stepped down at the end of that season. In any case if this is true Lebron is a damn fool nobody outside of Mo Willaims wants to go to Cleavland , If I'm the Raptors I tell Bosh to go straight to hell he showed the Raptors even less respect than we showed David Lee they shouldn't do him any favors. J.J. Hickson are you kidding me ?

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7/6/2010  11:58 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/6/2010  12:18 PM
crzymdups wrote:
Finestrg wrote:If Lebron wants to get stupid, we could get real stupid --- Say Lebron never even wanted NY and we get good indication that he really wants Bosh in Cleveland so he can stay home---Ultimately up to Bosh I guess but if I'm Donnie, I get involved in this...The Knicks using any combination of Lee, Chandler, Douglas...even Gallo perhaps, could offer Toronto a much better package than anything Cleveland had to offer...If we really wanted to we could bring in Bosh for a second meeting, tell him we want him & get him on board possibly and then call up Colangelo with a much better S&T offer..Bosh & Amar'e together is a little redundant but I think it could work...Or we could get ourselves directly involved as a threat in order to pry LeBron loose from Cleveland in a 'come to NY otherwise we'll move on w/o you and go get Bosh ourselves' kinda way...Maybe we don't come right out and say exactly that, maybe we just come out with a false report that we actually really want Bosh and that we could make Amar'e & Bosh work together...An interesting stategy but knowing our luck, it would backfire and force LeBron to Chicago or to join Wade in Miami..LOL..

That's not happening... that's kind of ridiculous, man. No way does Bosh agree to come here to play with Amare. It makes no sense.

Oh no? Despite what Chris Broussard is saying, what if there is no real dialogue going on between Bosh and the Cavs right now...What if Broussard is just putting that out there to perpetuate his own ideas. I mean I just don't see it -- Cleveland doesn't have the assets at all..I could make Amar'e & Bosh work here btw....Bosh may like it (he'd get NYC and a full 6-year max deal), Bryan Colangelo would get a much better haul starting with David Lee than anything Cleveland could offer him, and we get the two best big men on the FA market and go twin-towers on other teams' asses...Not saying it's gonna happen, it won't, but it's a thought. And I kinda like the pressure it would put on LeBron a little bit..Way back, all I asked for was a quick decision from this guy so we can move on, one way or another...It's annoying that he hasn't supplied that...What the hell are you waiting for my man??? You know damn well where you're gonna go -- make the call one way or the other so we can get on with our business..

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7/6/2010  12:01 PM
Finestrg wrote:I just commented on this before on another thread --- I can't see this at all. Cleveland has nothing to offer for Chris Bosh in a trade --- and I don't consider any of the proposals being discussed here to be any good...

If Lebron wants to get stupid, we could get real stupid --- Say Lebron never even wanted NY and we get good indication that he really wants Bosh in Cleveland so he can stay home---Ultimately up to Bosh I guess but if I'm Donnie, I get involved in this...The Knicks using any combination of Lee, Chandler, Douglas...even Gallo perhaps, could offer Toronto a much better package than anything Cleveland had to offer...If we really wanted to we could bring in Bosh for a second meeting, tell him we want him & get him on board possibly and then call up Colangelo with a much better S&T offer..Bosh & Amar'e together is a little redundant but I think it could work...Or we could get ourselves directly involved as a threat in order to pry LeBron loose from Cleveland in a 'coemto NY otherwise we'll move on w/o you and go get Bosh ourselves kinda way...maybe we don't come right out and say exactly that, maybe we just come out with a false report that we actually really want Bosh and that we could make Amar'e & Bosh work together...An interesting stategy but knowing our luck, it would backfire and force LeBron to Chicago or to join Wade in Miami..LOL..

We could maybe preempt the Cavs by getting involved in a 3-team deal where we S&T Lee for Bosh, and then send Bosh to Denver for Melo, or to NO for CP3, or to someplace else for some other player we want. Raptors get value, Bosh gets his sixth year (what a retard), and we get our player. The only one left in the lurch is the vacillating King, who will be heading to Chicago to be irrelevant. Sorry, but Lebron/Rose/Noah won't get past the second round.

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7/6/2010  12:08 PM
AnubisADL wrote:We have seen Pau Gasol get traded for pocket lint.

an Allstar C & 2 future 1st round picks is pocket lint?

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7/6/2010  12:08 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/6/2010  12:42 PM
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Finestrg wrote:I just commented on this before on another thread --- I can't see this at all. Cleveland has nothing to offer for Chris Bosh in a trade --- and I don't consider any of the proposals being discussed here to be any good...

If Lebron wants to get stupid, we could get real stupid --- Say Lebron never even wanted NY and we get good indication that he really wants Bosh in Cleveland so he can stay home---Ultimately up to Bosh I guess but if I'm Donnie, I get involved in this...The Knicks using any combination of Lee, Chandler, Douglas...even Gallo perhaps, could offer Toronto a much better package than anything Cleveland had to offer...If we really wanted to we could bring in Bosh for a second meeting, tell him we want him & get him on board possibly and then call up Colangelo with a much better S&T offer..Bosh & Amar'e together is a little redundant but I think it could work...Or we could get ourselves directly involved as a threat in order to pry LeBron loose from Cleveland in a 'coemto NY otherwise we'll move on w/o you and go get Bosh ourselves kinda way...maybe we don't come right out and say exactly that, maybe we just come out with a false report that we actually really want Bosh and that we could make Amar'e & Bosh work together...An interesting stategy but knowing our luck, it would backfire and force LeBron to Chicago or to join Wade in Miami..LOL..

We could maybe preempt the Cavs by getting involved in a 3-team deal where we S&T Lee for Bosh, and then send Bosh to Denver for Melo, or to NO for CP3, or to someplace else for some other player we want. Raptors get value, Bosh gets his sixth year (what a retard), and we get our player. The only one left in the lurch is the vacillating King, who will be heading to Chicago to be irrelevant. Sorry, but Lebron/Rose/Noah won't get past the second round.

Right there ya go Moon...You see where I'm coming from...I'd kinda get a kick outta taking King **** LeBron out of the drivers seat on all this for a little bit (I want the guy as much as anyone, but this whole thing is getting rediculous already)...Your plan makes some sense btw -- I didn't even think of that -- S&T for Bosh and then flip him in a deal for Melo...Very interesting....As a FA signing, Amar'e can't be dealt for awhile (several months I believe), but Bosh, acquired though a sign & trade, could be moved immediately (remember Q-Rich was traded like 10 times last summer it seemed LOL)...We'd be doing Bosh really dirty though esp. if he wanted no part of Denver (esp. going there minus Melo )...Tell ya what though, he'd be going to a team on a full 6-year max deal and he'd be able to be the man all by himself, which is something he's said he wants for himself...Denver might never be able to do any better for themselves too btw by getting Chis Bosh for Carmelo..

Very interesting indeed. How 'bout that -- a 3-way between us, Denver & Toronto?? Makes some sense to me..In order to make this work, I might sweeten it up a little and agree to send Chandler or even Gallo to Denver in order to seal the deal..In order to get Carmelo Anthony to come here right now -- I'd be willing to surrender Lee and one other player in order to first get Bosh, then include possibly another player to go to Denver along with Bosh...Sounds like a lot but we'd be getting a Melo/Amar'e combo to move forward with which I think is major and I still believe guys like Chandler, TD, even Gallo are all completely replaceable...Obviously I still value Gallo's potential a great deal -- if we could pull this off and still keep Gallo, homerun man...Go get me Melo to play with Amar'e right now and I'll figure out the rest (with that $15M in cap room next year, you use a majority of it to go get Tony Parker and lock him up July 1st, 2011)...

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7/6/2010  12:20 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/6/2010  12:21 PM
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Mray20 wrote:Bosh doesn't want to go to Cleavland so it doesn't matter

Bosh wants that 6th yr. Ask Joe Johnson how easy it is too turn down 30 million in GUARANTEED CASH.

LOL at the Nets and Chicago.

Good. Let him go back and play in Toronto. Can't always have your cake and eat it too.
Lebron and Wade would be willing to sign with another team without a S&T, but not Bosh? Screw that fool.

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7/6/2010  12:48 PM
if this is indeed accurate, bosh is a nut. playing in cle at 6 yr/max isnt doable if lbj stays in cle? what could he not like in cle?
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7/6/2010  12:53 PM
What Happens if the Nets offer Favors and Terrance Williams for Bosh. No real cap hit for Toronto and a better younger package. They then have the room to start, Harris-Lee-Lebron-Bosh-Lopez
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7/6/2010  1:03 PM
Doesn't make a lot of sense for Toronto- this would have to be a salary match trade and they'd have to take back a lot of junk to make this work.
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7/6/2010  1:14 PM
Not when you are trading with a team that can absorb the cap dollars
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7/6/2010  1:23 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/6/2010  1:25 PM
what's becoming more apparent is that the bosh outcome will determine the entire FA landscape for many teams...and colangelo basically made a ton of GM friends in the process by not taking back beasley allowing lebron + wade + bosh to team up in miami...
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7/6/2010  1:26 PM
djsunyc wrote:what's becoming more apparent is that the bosh outcome will determine the entire FA landscape for many teams...

he's the biggest domino and he's certainly playing it up. he seems to enjoy being courted by wade and bron.

amar'e was wise to move quickly while bosh was doing his diva thing. if the knicks had signals that bosh didn't want to come here, i think it was still wise for them to sign amar'e first.

bosh can do his thing and the knicks can be the alternative to the bosh thing. if wade and bron both want to play with superstar bigs, we have one of the two best on the market.

i still think bosh and wade to miami and bron stays in cleveland.

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7/6/2010  1:28 PM
djsunyc wrote:what's becoming more apparent is that the bosh outcome will determine the entire FA landscape for many teams...and colangelo basically made a ton of GM friends in the process by not taking back beasley allowing lebron + wade + bosh to team up in miami...

He'll have no friends if he takes back Anderson f'n Varejao for Chris Bosh. What is the point of that trade? Sideshow Bob is trash and makes $8, $9 million a season for the next 4 years. He does nothing to help your team in terms of wins and you get no salary relief.

If Colangelo takes him back in such a trade then he goes up there with Isiah Thomas-level as a GM.

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7/6/2010  1:32 PM
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djsunyc wrote:what's becoming more apparent is that the bosh outcome will determine the entire FA landscape for many teams...and colangelo basically made a ton of GM friends in the process by not taking back beasley allowing lebron + wade + bosh to team up in miami...

He'll have no friends if he takes back Anderson f'n Varejao for Chris Bosh. What is the point of that trade? Sideshow Bob is trash and makes $8, $9 million a season for the next 4 years. He does nothing to help your team in terms of wins and you get no salary relief.

If Colangelo takes him back in such a trade then he goes up there with Isiah Thomas-level as a GM.

i think any deal made with cleveland would include dumping hedo's deal. and like i said before, any pieces taken back from cleveland will quickly be moved for someone else. the guy is going to make a ton of moves this summer.

but i think he's holding out for guys like noah and those ny picks/aaron brooks from houston...

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7/6/2010  1:35 PM
djsunyc wrote:
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djsunyc wrote:what's becoming more apparent is that the bosh outcome will determine the entire FA landscape for many teams...and colangelo basically made a ton of GM friends in the process by not taking back beasley allowing lebron + wade + bosh to team up in miami...

He'll have no friends if he takes back Anderson f'n Varejao for Chris Bosh. What is the point of that trade? Sideshow Bob is trash and makes $8, $9 million a season for the next 4 years. He does nothing to help your team in terms of wins and you get no salary relief.

If Colangelo takes him back in such a trade then he goes up there with Isiah Thomas-level as a GM.

i think any deal made with cleveland would include dumping hedo's deal. and like i said before, any pieces taken back from cleveland will quickly be moved for someone else. the guy is going to make a ton of moves this summer.

but i think he's holding out for guys like noah and those ny picks/aaron brooks from houston...

Hedo > Varejao.

I don't see anyone tripping over themselves to acquire Varejao if/when you acquire him so good luck with that.

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7/6/2010  1:37 PM
denver would take verejao in a heartbeat. they have no bigs.
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