TMS wrote:

masud wrote:To be fair shouldn't we wait to see Rautins play so that we can either declare him a bust or future starter based on one sl game?

Stephenson is a damn fool by the way, keep him far away from my team. Dude almost went undrafted and people are getting on the Knicks for not picking him? Come on son!

i wish we would have addressed our need for a shotblocker seeing as though that was a major issue for us the past few years... Varnado woulda been a nice pickup... hopefully Jordan or 1 of the SL guys can address this issue for us this season

yeah, that was the problem I had with the draft. I don't care that the team passed on Lance Stephenson. The team couldn't swing and miss. The Knicks got a 6'5" SG that can shoot from distance and a 6'7" SF that can jump out of the gym. Both players seem like safe picks to me. Could be worse.

Swishfm3 wrote:

misterearl wrote:Hilarious

"wish we'd taken a longer look at lance. hope the knicks did due diligence here."

Nah, the entire Knicks scouting staff neglected all available research and passed on Lance Stephenson because they were friending new people on facebook.

Ben Jobe is one of the best evaluators of talent on the planet.

Same approach they took last year when they passed on that kid that went to the Bucks...what was his name again?

Swishy my friend, you know if we would of had our original pick from Utah we would have bolstered "THE COMMUNITY" and taken Hayward too ! High octane systems guy.

nyk4ever wrote:

playa2 wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

misterearl wrote:Hilarious

"wish we'd taken a longer look at lance. hope the knicks did due diligence here."

Nah, the entire Knicks scouting staff neglected all available research and passed on Lance Stephenson because they were friending new people on facebook.

Ben Jobe is one of the best evaluators of talent on the planet.

Same approach they took last year when they passed on that kid that went to the Bucks...what was his name again?

Swishy my friend, you know if we would of had our original pick from Utah we would have bolstered "THE COMMUNITY" and taken Hayward too ! High octane systems guy.

quit this **** bro, it's stupid.

i second that. knock it off playa.

SupremeCommander wrote:

TMS wrote:

masud wrote:To be fair shouldn't we wait to see Rautins play so that we can either declare him a bust or future starter based on one sl game?

Stephenson is a damn fool by the way, keep him far away from my team. Dude almost went undrafted and people are getting on the Knicks for not picking him? Come on son!

i wish we would have addressed our need for a shotblocker seeing as though that was a major issue for us the past few years... Varnado woulda been a nice pickup... hopefully Jordan or 1 of the SL guys can address this issue for us this season

yeah, that was the problem I had with the draft. I don't care that the team passed on Lance Stephenson. The team couldn't swing and miss. The Knicks got a 6'5" SG that can shoot from distance and a 6'7" SF that can jump out of the gym. Both players seem like safe picks to me. Could be worse.

i'm cool with Fields... i think he'll be a solid rotation player for us... but seems to be redundant with Wilson in many respects... i'm guessing MDA isn't high on Wilson's future w/this team going forward... he's likely trade bait or cap fodder this year or next from the way things look right now w/the plan to target Melo next season.

Rautins i really can't speak too much on since i haven't watched him play, just the reasoning behind the pick that i sorta questioned, but if he turns out to be another solid rotation guy, then we could have done a lot worse, i agree.

tkf wrote:so I am watching lance right now as I type.. kid has length, strength, deceptive quickness, can really handle the ball and is a slick passer.. I am sure if the knicks worked him out and watched video they had to see these things.. I know this is summer league, but this kid can be a problem for any NBA player that has to guard him, and we thought rautins was a better prospect than him? wow... rautins better tear the SL up in order for me to feel good about this...

BigDaddyG wrote:

tkf wrote:so I am watching lance right now as I type.. kid has length, strength, deceptive quickness, can really handle the ball and is a slick passer.. I am sure if the knicks worked him out and watched video they had to see these things.. I know this is summer league, but this kid can be a problem for any NBA player that has to guard him, and we thought rautins was a better prospect than him? wow... rautins better tear the SL up in order for me to feel good about this...

I also watched Lance and although he is strong, quick and can handle the ball and pass, those are things I already know he can do. Unless I see him consistently knock down Js, especially in spot up situations, I'm not going to go crazy about not picking him. I mean, we've been waiting for Sebastian Telfair to develop a J for how many years? Lance will be a borderline NBA player unless he improves his J.

Did he actually hit a jump shot the past two days? Did not even try a 3. On D I would lay off of him until he proves he can hit a jumper. Give him credit for compensating for his shooting weakness by going to the basket so often, but eventually he has to learn to be consistent on his shot.

Nice passer, pretty resourceful in this aspect. He seemed to see the floor pretty well- I did not see the "tunnel vision" DraftExpress talked about. Saw a nice behind the back pass when he was he was stopped going to the basket. Got stuffed going to the basket one time, but he was usually resourceful in getting off shots when he drove to the basket.

Don't think he can stay in front of a quicker PG from what I saw. (Rautins, of all people, was quicker than him in the agility test.)

Probably better for him that he started his career outside of NYC- fewer distractions.

Paladin55 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

tkf wrote:so I am watching lance right now as I type.. kid has length, strength, deceptive quickness, can really handle the ball and is a slick passer.. I am sure if the knicks worked him out and watched video they had to see these things.. I know this is summer league, but this kid can be a problem for any NBA player that has to guard him, and we thought rautins was a better prospect than him? wow... rautins better tear the SL up in order for me to feel good about this...

I also watched Lance and although he is strong, quick and can handle the ball and pass, those are things I already know he can do. Unless I see him consistently knock down Js, especially in spot up situations, I'm not going to go crazy about not picking him. I mean, we've been waiting for Sebastian Telfair to develop a J for how many years? Lance will be a borderline NBA player unless he improves his J.

Did he actually hit a jump shot the past two days? Did not even try a 3. On D I would lay off of him until he proves he can hit a jumper. Give him credit for compensating for his shooting weakness by going to the basket so often, but eventually he has to learn to be consistent on his shot.

Nice passer, pretty resourceful in this aspect. He seemed to see the floor pretty well- I did not see the "tunnel vision" DraftExpress talked about. Saw a nice behind the back pass when he was he was stopped going to the basket. Got stuffed going to the basket one time, but he was usually resourceful in getting off shots when he drove to the basket.

Don't think he can stay in front of a quicker PG from what I saw. (Rautins, of all people, was quicker than him in the agility test.)

Probably better for him that he started his career outside of NYC- fewer distractions.

Based on the reports, the Rautins kid can actually play defense. That is the only reason I am not screaming about the pick. If he can consistently hit jumpers and guard his man , then he is someone we need. I am going to wait until the end of SL before passing judgment on him, Fields, and Jordan.

Culture is what we need not one on one players that shine in summer league.