CrushAlot wrote:Here is the part of the original Wojo story that pretains to LeBron's impression of the presentation.

The Bulls must make a strong case to James on Saturday to get him to take what would be $30 million less than the Cavaliers could offer. Sources say one team that all but eliminated itself with James in the presentation process was the New York Knicks. James met with the organization on Friday and his inner-circle has described New York’s presentation as lacking preparedness and organization. 1) James’ camp also found it to be redundant to much of the New Jersey Nets’ far sharper, edgier presentation on James’ earning power.

James hasn’t been convinced that he can overcome the $30 million difference between possible Cleveland and New York offers through endorsements and other streams of revenue. However, Russian billionaire Mikhail Prokhorov’s vision of bulking up James’ international portfolio did resonate with him, and the Nets vision of using Brooklyn and the owner’s international muscle does appeal to him.

Sources say that James is dubious his mere presence on the Knicks will be worth that much more to him in endorsements. 2) The appearance of Knicks GM Donnie Walsh in a wheelchair due to a neck problem and the frumpy, unimpressive Jim Dolan didn’t provide James with an image of vibrancy.

1- Sounds like one of LeBron's guys did not have the attention span to watch a professional presentation.

2- This alone tells me that someone was out to sandbag the Knicks, and if James really did make that kind of comment about Walsh his rep should take a major hit.

martin wrote:and if Bosh, Wade are a duo for CHI, I can see why Maverick Carter would NOT want LeBron to go to NY (versus staying in CLE, for which he would not sniff championships for years).

I dont get it - why would Mav Carter not want lebron to go to NY if Bosh and Wade went to Chi versus staying in cleveland?

martin wrote:http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/67770/20100702/knicks_dispute_theyre_out_of_lebron_hunt_suggest_ulterior_motives

this seems to be a followup to the link previous posted.

Knicks Dispute They're Out Of LeBron Hunt, Suggest Ulterior Motives

Jul 02, 2010 7:22 PM EST

Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports went on the air with Michael Kay on ESPN Radio to discuss points he made in a story Wojnarowski published Friday.

In that story, Wojnarowski wrote that the Knicks had been virtually eliminated from the race to sign LeBron James and that he was unimpressed with New York's presentation to him Thursday.

Shortly after the segment with Wojnarowski, a representative of the Knicks called Kay to refute the Wojnarowski story and the claims made by his sources. Further, the Knicks suggested that someone may be attempting to undermine their chances to sign James. The team stated that its presentation to James was successful and apparently well received.

Wojnarowski also includes claims that James was turned off by Donnie Walsh's need to use a wheelchair due to a neck ailment, and that James was similarly deflated by owner James Dolan's appearance.

There have been rumblings in recent days that those closest to James are concerned about him playing for the Knicks and what implications that might hold for the power balance around the superstar. There have been some indications that Maverick Carter, James' closest friend, is opposed to a move to the Knicks.

However, the status of Wojnarowski's anonymous sources is unclear since he only generically cites "sources" but does not indicate their position in relation to James, or their particular knowledge of James' reactions to the presentation from New York.

That first bolded part is hard for me to believe and kinda throws the whole report into question.

Second part about sources also leaves a lot of questions to be asked.

The biggest thing about the knicks is selling NY - it's hard to sell NYC and the garden in a conference room in cleveland, period.

CrushAlot wrote:Donnie's health is a concern. After his battle with tongue cancer, having surgery on his neck doesn't sound like standard fare. I see Donnie as the sign of stability for the organization so I can see why this might influence a players decision. I just am surprised it was brought up publicly in the media.

CrushAlot wrote:Here is the part of the original Wojo story that pretains to LeBron's impression of the presentation.

The Bulls must make a strong case to James on Saturday to get him to take what would be $30 million less than the Cavaliers could offer. Sources say one team that all but eliminated itself with James in the presentation process was the New York Knicks. James met with the organization on Friday and his inner-circle has described New York’s presentation as lacking preparedness and organization. James’ camp also found it to be redundant to much of the New Jersey Nets’ far sharper, edgier presentation on James’ earning power.

James hasn’t been convinced that he can overcome the $30 million difference between possible Cleveland and New York offers through endorsements and other streams of revenue. However, Russian billionaire Mikhail Prokhorov’s vision of bulking up James’ international portfolio did resonate with him, and the Nets vision of using Brooklyn and the owner’s international muscle does appeal to him.

Sources say that James is dubious his mere presence on the Knicks will be worth that much more to him in endorsements. The appearance of Knicks GM Donnie Walsh in a wheelchair due to a neck problem and the frumpy, unimpressive Jim Dolan didn’t provide James with an image of vibrancy.

All this may be true. The NETS went first and probably stole the Knicks thunder while wowing LBJ with star power.

But i thought the point of holding the meetings in Cleveland was to keep it all about BASKETBALL.

If LeBron was craving pizzazz why didn't he bring his ass to NYC?

That was some dirty ****, cancelling the FA tour. NYC was the sizzle.

LeBron in newark would make me laugh.

Paladin55 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Here is the part of the original Wojo story that pretains to LeBron's impression of the presentation.

The Bulls must make a strong case to James on Saturday to get him to take what would be $30 million less than the Cavaliers could offer. Sources say one team that all but eliminated itself with James in the presentation process was the New York Knicks. James met with the organization on Friday and his inner-circle has described New York’s presentation as lacking preparedness and organization. 1) James’ camp also found it to be redundant to much of the New Jersey Nets’ far sharper, edgier presentation on James’ earning power.

James hasn’t been convinced that he can overcome the $30 million difference between possible Cleveland and New York offers through endorsements and other streams of revenue. However, Russian billionaire Mikhail Prokhorov’s vision of bulking up James’ international portfolio did resonate with him, and the Nets vision of using Brooklyn and the owner’s international muscle does appeal to him.

Sources say that James is dubious his mere presence on the Knicks will be worth that much more to him in endorsements. 2) The appearance of Knicks GM Donnie Walsh in a wheelchair due to a neck problem and the frumpy, unimpressive Jim Dolan didn’t provide James with an image of vibrancy.

1- Sounds like one of LeBron's guys did not have the attention span to watch a professional presentation.

2- This alone tells me that someone was out to sandbag the Knicks, and if James really did make that kind of comment about Walsh his rep should take a major hit.

Palladin-- As I creep older I realize more and more just how much the world is catered to youth. It's a young person's world. As much as it is classless to say something like that it would be swallowed up and chewed in a world where image means everything. Coming in with a man in a wheelchair and the odd Dolan was probably not a selling point to a 25 year old iconic figure good or bad.

Think about that compared to seeing a young high energy coach a billionaire playboy and an iconic entertainer

kam77 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Here is the part of the original Wojo story that pretains to LeBron's impression of the presentation.

The Bulls must make a strong case to James on Saturday to get him to take what would be $30 million less than the Cavaliers could offer. Sources say one team that all but eliminated itself with James in the presentation process was the New York Knicks. James met with the organization on Friday and his inner-circle has described New York’s presentation as lacking preparedness and organization. James’ camp also found it to be redundant to much of the New Jersey Nets’ far sharper, edgier presentation on James’ earning power.

James hasn’t been convinced that he can overcome the $30 million difference between possible Cleveland and New York offers through endorsements and other streams of revenue. However, Russian billionaire Mikhail Prokhorov’s vision of bulking up James’ international portfolio did resonate with him, and the Nets vision of using Brooklyn and the owner’s international muscle does appeal to him.

Sources say that James is dubious his mere presence on the Knicks will be worth that much more to him in endorsements. The appearance of Knicks GM Donnie Walsh in a wheelchair due to a neck problem and the frumpy, unimpressive Jim Dolan didn’t provide James with an image of vibrancy.

All this may be true. The NETS went first and probably stole the Knicks thunder while wowing LBJ with star power.

But i thought the point of holding the meetings in Cleveland was to keep it all about BASKETBALL.

If LeBron was craving pizzazz why didn't he bring his ass to NYC?

That was some dirty ****, cancelling the FA tour. NYC was the sizzle.

LeBron in newark would make me laugh.

lebron in nyc would have sealed the deal, period

Caseloads wrote:

Vmart wrote:LeBron's crew didn't put this out. Its Wade's crew that put this out. He has been playing this FA like a MOFO. His goal is LBJ, Bosh and Wade together. He talked smack about Chi and now leaning towards Chi. That reeks of a player trying to block others from going there.

How do you know Wade put this out?

And if he did, Wade is playing great Chess

I have sources. Pat the Rat is playing chess Wade is just the pawn.