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JrZyHuStLa
Posts: 25677 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 1/5/2007 Member: #1241 |
7/3/2010 12:29 PM
TMS wrote:KnicksSince88 wrote:Its amazing to me people just think that guys who get their numbers on different teams, could produce the same numbers playing together. LOL, never gets old. |
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Solace
Posts: 30002 Alba Posts: 20 Joined: 10/30/2003 Member: #479 USA |
7/3/2010 1:24 PM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:TMS wrote:KnicksSince88 wrote:Its amazing to me people just think that guys who get their numbers on different teams, could produce the same numbers playing together. I concur. Every time I watch it, I get chills. Not the good kind, though. Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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tj23
Posts: 21851 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/20/2010 Member: #3119 |
7/3/2010 1:45 PM
I like Lee and Amare I just wish we could get a perimeter player. We all know NY's staple has become the pick and roll. A 2 man game with shooters to spread the floor. I just want a guard or small forward who can run it with Amare/Lee whatever really well because that is our main play. I do not want to see Ridnour or Douglas having to run it over and over. Douglas still needs to work on his passing and pg skills. Ideally, I wish he could come off the bench and play some defense, which is his biggest contribution. And he's shown he can hit some open shots and make an occasional play but I dont want him as the focal point of our offense. I'd rather spread the floor with guys like Douglas, Gallo, and Walker and have a more skilled player that's more adept with the pick and roll that can beat the defense in many ways(unlike Duhon). Also, the way we spread the floor, D'Antoni usually has a smaller 4 who can shoot threes(not that you cant space out with Amare and lee it's just not typical).
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tj23
Posts: 21851 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/20/2010 Member: #3119 |
7/3/2010 3:32 PM
oohah wrote:Childs2Dudley wrote:I'm not a David Lee fan in case you are wondering. yo forgive my stupidity but what do you mean by empty stats? I thought Lee was a good offensive player last year. He isolated against bigger, slower centers, played his face up game, and either pulled up or drove pretty well given his 20 per game and his %. Clearly Amare is better and Lee's defense is terrible but I'm trying to understand your point. Lee isn't a go to scorer but a pretty decent complement if you ask me. Not a Bosh/Amare/Dirk, but not so far off from say Boozer. |
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playa2
Posts: 34922 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 5/15/2003 Member: #407 |
7/3/2010 3:52 PM
TheSage wrote:playa2 wrote:TheSage wrote: The games is about having more points on the board at game's end and this trio can average 60 point a games-not equalled by many threesomes on a starting front line. What is it you don't understand ? Championship teams have guys who defend, losing teams have a problem making stops at crucial times in the game 4 qtr 2 min left. Trying to score more than your opponent may get you in the playoffs, but you will NEVER WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP with out playing better defense than your opponent.
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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FrenchKnicks
Posts: 21036 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 10/30/2001 Member: #147 France |
7/4/2010 6:12 AM
At this point and based on everything we know, I have to agree that signing D Lee and Amare could be a solution for us.
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Caseloads
Posts: 27725 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/29/2001 Member: #41 |
7/4/2010 6:40 AM
FrenchKnicks wrote:At this point and based on everything we know, I have to agree that signing D Lee and Amare could be a solution for us. it wouldnt work like that... |
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misterearl
Posts: 38786 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/16/2004 Member: #799 USA |
7/5/2010 2:52 PM
Lee and Amare are redundant. As much affection as there is for Lee, he is NOT a center. The Knicks need a center to anchor the defense.
The Atlanta Hawks have learned the hard way about playing guys who have redundant skill sets once a knick always a knick
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Allanfan20
Posts: 35947 Alba Posts: 50 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #542 USA |
7/5/2010 4:02 PM
I still don't think Lee had empty stats. You're right though. There's no way in hell he can be the best big man on the team, let alone the number one scoring option on the entire team. He's NOT that type of player. He's a very good player who could be your third best player, and would look GREAT next to an Amare or Bosh.
Get them both and you have a very good frontcourt. “Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
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Bonn1997
Posts: 58654 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 2/2/2004 Member: #581 USA |
7/6/2010 3:57 PM
Are you sure the fact that he's a home-grown likable player isn't biasing your assessment (Briggs and others arguing for bringing back Lee)? If he had the exact same numbers but on some other (lottery) team, would you really say that we need to use most of our remaining cap space on Lee in order to pair him up with Amare? Last time I posted here regularly, Briggs was talking about how the best teams have tall, long defensive minded PF/Cs, and I think that's exactly what we saw in these finals with all four starting PF/Cs being about 7 foot tall and very good on defense. I wouldn't spend all the FA money on two PFs who both are far from that description.
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crzymdups
Posts: 52018 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/1/2004 Member: #671 USA |
7/6/2010 4:01 PM
misterearl wrote:Lee and Amare are redundant. As much affection as there is for Lee, he is NOT a center. The Knicks need a center to anchor the defense. I kind of agree with this. I'd focus on getting a guy like Biedrins at this point. ¿ △ ?
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fishmike
Posts: 53902 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
7/6/2010 6:00 PM
crzymdups wrote:myself as well... I would be open to Lee but lets face it... eventually one of them is going and Amare is the better player.misterearl wrote:Lee and Amare are redundant. As much affection as there is for Lee, he is NOT a center. The Knicks need a center to anchor the defense. Biedrins is a risk also but you have to do that "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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mattshaw78
Posts: 20904 Alba Posts: 52 Joined: 6/23/2005 Member: #915 |
7/6/2010 8:14 PM
can we just have Earl Barron playing the center role and do something for a point guard with the likes of chips we have (expiring contract with curry, wilson chandler, and maybe a sign and trade with lee). We haven't had a decent point guard since derek harper.
BlueSeats "I like anyone who can make Lebron cry. Melo seems to do it a lot."
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TheGame
Posts: 26647 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/15/2006 Member: #1154 USA |
7/7/2010 9:11 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Bottom line--removing Lee and adding Stuodemire is a wash in many ways. We CANNOT discount resigning Lee in fact if we dont get LBJ Wade or Bosh I think he should be next in line. Atleast a Gallo Lee Amare frontline will be tough to deal with removing Lee is a new zero if we just add amare and some parameter players BRIGGS, do you think defensively this just would not work. Unless Amare is committed to coming here and playing center, which I doubt is the case, he is probably not going to be happy have to guard Shaq, Bynum, Ming, Howard, and all the other big centers in the league. Plus, Lee is the worst starting PF defender in the league and Amare is probably only 10-12 spots higher than him on the the worst PF defenders' list. They both would have to make a major committment to improving on D, and Amare would have to agree to play center pretty much full time to make it work. I just don't see it. Trust the Process
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TheGame
Posts: 26647 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/15/2006 Member: #1154 USA |
7/7/2010 9:24 AM
mattshaw78 wrote:can we just have Earl Barron playing the center role and do something for a point guard with the likes of chips we have (expiring contract with curry, wilson chandler, and maybe a sign and trade with lee). We haven't had a decent point guard since derek harper. THat's my thoughts. Save our cap space. If we sign Lebron and Amare, fill the rest of the roster with cheap players on 1 year deals and try to sign a third max player next year. Barron and maybe a Jason Williams would fill out the roster just fine. Trust the Process
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