Cosmic wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:

Cosmic wrote:I can't even fathom why there is a conversation going on regarding unknown hacks who may or may not be picked 38th in the coming draft on a team that is gunning for top name FAs.

You guys amaze me. Really.

Dude, there is enough free agent talk on this website.

What's wrong with discussing our draft picks? We'll need at least one of those two players to be fairly decent so we could field a good roster should we sign 2 max guys. It's not a pointless discussion at all.

Well, true, but talking about complete unknown hacks as if they're something special is laughable at best.

This franchise is trying to score big. Yet we have people talking about scrubs we might pick in the middle of the 2nd round of the NBA draft.

To me, that's just crazy.

And, well, funny.

OMG OMAR ASIK SCORED 22 POINTS IN THE SUMATRAN LEAGUE. WE PICK HIM 38. CHAMPIONSHIP HERE WE COME.

Ya know?

Stupid.

the only thing stupid is you thinking that anyone is making the 38th pick out to be as big as you think it is. Move along man.

Cosmic wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:

Cosmic wrote:I can't even fathom why there is a conversation going on regarding unknown hacks who may or may not be picked 38th in the coming draft on a team that is gunning for top name FAs.

You guys amaze me. Really.

Dude, there is enough free agent talk on this website.

What's wrong with discussing our draft picks? We'll need at least one of those two players to be fairly decent so we could field a good roster should we sign 2 max guys. It's not a pointless discussion at all.

Well, true, but talking about complete unknown hacks as if they're something special is laughable at best.

This franchise is trying to score big. Yet we have people talking about scrubs we might pick in the middle of the 2nd round of the NBA draft.

To me, that's just crazy.

And, well, funny.

OMG OMAR ASIK SCORED 22 POINTS IN THE SUMATRAN LEAGUE. WE PICK HIM 38. CHAMPIONSHIP HERE WE COME.

Ya know?

Stupid.

Dont know if you you where just making a point of not.But Omar Asik was drafted by the Bulls last year.

Cosmic wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:

Cosmic wrote:I can't even fathom why there is a conversation going on regarding unknown hacks who may or may not be picked 38th in the coming draft on a team that is gunning for top name FAs.

You guys amaze me. Really.

Dude, there is enough free agent talk on this website.

What's wrong with discussing our draft picks? We'll need at least one of those two players to be fairly decent so we could field a good roster should we sign 2 max guys. It's not a pointless discussion at all.

Well, true, but talking about complete unknown hacks as if they're something special is laughable at best.

This franchise is trying to score big. Yet we have people talking about scrubs we might pick in the middle of the 2nd round of the NBA draft.

To me, that's just crazy.

And, well, funny.

OMG OMAR ASIK SCORED 22 POINTS IN THE SUMATRAN LEAGUE. WE PICK HIM 38. CHAMPIONSHIP HERE WE COME.

Ya know?

Stupid.

There have been a lot of players picked in the 2nd Round who went on to become All-Stars so your post makes no sense.

Cosmic wrote:
OMG OMAR ASIK SCORED 22 POINTS IN THE SUMATRAN LEAGUE. WE PICK HIM 38. CHAMPIONSHIP HERE WE COME.

Ya know?

Stupid.

A few things to point out:

Asik was drafted by Portland at #36 in the 2008 draft- we cannot draft him this year.

There are probably dozens of Sumatranians who post on UK who are pissed off at your dismissal of their basketball league, if the island of Sumatra, in western Indonesia, the westernmost of the Sunda Islands, actually has a league that Asik would play in.

The problem is that Omer Asik, as everyone knows, plays with FENERBAHCE ULKER, one of the well-known teams in Turkey, where he is good friends with Mirsad Turkcan, the former Knicks who plays on that team.

Add all of the above to the fact that during this past season his Euroleague scoring high seems to have been 13 pts in a hard fought 78-76 victory over Asvel Baske, and I have to conclude that you have insulted:

1) the island of Sumatra and its people:

2) the Turkish born Asik, the great and storied city of Istanbul, and the entire nation of Turkey;

3) the Fenerbahce Ulker team, whose address is Fenerbahce Spor Kulübü ,Dereagzi Tesisleri Kiziltoprak-Kadiköy, Istanbul - Turkey

4) David Stern and the sanctity of the NBA's draft system.

5) UK members, such as myself, who find the weeks leading up to the NBA Draft (I also love the NFL draft, but there are factors pertaining to the sport of basketball that make it a lot easier for us non-professional "scouts" to watch and evaluate players and attempt to match them to our team's needs.)to be interesting and entertaining.

As people have pointed out in this thread, there is no expectation that any player drafted in the slots we pick at will turn around a franchise, but this seems to be a deep draft IMO, and you can pick up some good value, and even some players who may be able to start for us at some point in the future, or at least play solid rotational minutes.

Look at the guys from last year-

38 POR Jon Brockman
39 DET Jonas Jerebko
40 CHA Derrick Brown
41 MIL Jodie Meeks
42 LAL Patrick Beverley
43 MIA Marcus Thornton
44 DET Chase Budinger

Except for Beverly- who plays overseas, you have some decent talent at the point in the draft where we have slots.

Go down a bit and you see:

35 DET DaJuan Summers
36 MEM Sam Young
37 SAS DeJuan Blair

These guys are also rotation quality players.

I think that we can get some good talent at the spots we are picking at, and hope that Walsh can pick up a late #1 if a player he really likes is still in play and we have an opportunity to buy a pick.

...And yes, it would seem that we can do all of this while still being in the hunt for a max FA and a companion or two for him.

Cosmic wrote:I can't even fathom why there is a conversation going on regarding unknown hacks who may or may not be picked 38th in the coming draft on a team that is gunning for top name FAs.

You guys amaze me. Really.

I hear you but the draft is still fun and we'll need more than 5 players to play in the actual games.

nyk4ever wrote:

Cosmic wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:

Cosmic wrote:I can't even fathom why there is a conversation going on regarding unknown hacks who may or may not be picked 38th in the coming draft on a team that is gunning for top name FAs.

You guys amaze me. Really.

Dude, there is enough free agent talk on this website.

What's wrong with discussing our draft picks? We'll need at least one of those two players to be fairly decent so we could field a good roster should we sign 2 max guys. It's not a pointless discussion at all.

Well, true, but talking about complete unknown hacks as if they're something special is laughable at best.

This franchise is trying to score big. Yet we have people talking about scrubs we might pick in the middle of the 2nd round of the NBA draft.

To me, that's just crazy.

And, well, funny.

OMG OMAR ASIK SCORED 22 POINTS IN THE SUMATRAN LEAGUE. WE PICK HIM 38. CHAMPIONSHIP HERE WE COME.

Ya know?

Stupid.

cos if you're not interested in participating, then don't. it's that simple.

there are many here, myself included, who especially enjoy this time of year and enjoy trying to find the diamonds in the rough ourselves. if that doesn't interest you, then don't click. that simple.

Well, he went overboard, no doubt... but I can see how it get a little annoying when people go way overboard based on 'potential', which 9 times out of 10, doesn't pan out. But, Cosmic has had a lot of special moments today. Hope he calms down a bit, for his own sake.

Ira wrote:I'll play. Using the current draftexpress.com mock draft to determine who might be available when we pick, my choices are Jerome Jordan and Jerome Randle.

Randle was the star at Portsmouth and by all accounts I've read the best player there. As some have pointed out it takes more than 5 players to win a game much less a championship the days of Press Maravich and pro ball without substitutes are well behind us.

Paladin55 wrote:

Cosmic wrote:
OMG OMAR ASIK SCORED 22 POINTS IN THE SUMATRAN LEAGUE. WE PICK HIM 38. CHAMPIONSHIP HERE WE COME.

Ya know?

Stupid.

A few things to point out:

Asik was drafted by Portland at #36 in the 2008 draft- we cannot draft him this year.

There are probably dozens of Sumatranians who post on UK who are pissed off at your dismissal of their basketball league, if the island of Sumatra, in western Indonesia, the westernmost of the Sunda Islands, actually has a league that Asik would play in.

The problem is that Omer Asik, as everyone knows, plays with FENERBAHCE ULKER, one of the well-known teams in Turkey, where he is good friends with Mirsad Turkcan, the former Knicks who plays on that team.

Add all of the above to the fact that during this past season his Euroleague scoring high seems to have been 13 pts in a hard fought 78-76 victory over Asvel Baske, and I have to conclude that you have insulted:

1) the island of Sumatra and its people:

2) the Turkish born Asik, the great and storied city of Istanbul, and the entire nation of Turkey;

3) the Fenerbahce Ulker team, whose address is Fenerbahce Spor Kulübü ,Dereagzi Tesisleri Kiziltoprak-Kadiköy, Istanbul - Turkey

4) David Stern and the sanctity of the NBA's draft system.

5) UK members, such as myself, who find the weeks leading up to the NBA Draft (I also love the NFL draft, but there are factors pertaining to the sport of basketball that make it a lot easier for us non-professional "scouts" to watch and evaluate players and attempt to match them to our team's needs.)to be interesting and entertaining.

As people have pointed out in this thread, there is no expectation that any player drafted in the slots we pick at will turn around a franchise, but this seems to be a deep draft IMO, and you can pick up some good value, and even some players who may be able to start for us at some point in the future, or at least play solid rotational minutes.

Look at the guys from last year-

38 POR Jon Brockman
39 DET Jonas Jerebko
40 CHA Derrick Brown
41 MIL Jodie Meeks
42 LAL Patrick Beverley
43 MIA Marcus Thornton
44 DET Chase Budinger

Except for Beverly- who plays overseas, you have some decent talent at the point in the draft where we have slots.

Go down a bit and you see:

35 DET DaJuan Summers
36 MEM Sam Young
37 SAS DeJuan Blair

These guys are also rotation quality players.

I think that we can get some good talent at the spots we are picking at, and hope that Walsh can pick up a late #1 if a player he really likes is still in play and we have an opportunity to buy a pick.

...And yes, it would seem that we can do all of this while still being in the hunt for a max FA and a companion or two for him.

This post is a gem.

I have a new found respect for you.

Good stuff. I'm serious.

As to the rest of you hammering my post? Eh, whatever.... I stand by what I say.

Cosmic wrote:

Solace wrote:

Well, he went overboard, no doubt... but I can see how it get a little annoying when people go way overboard based on 'potential', which 9 times out of 10, doesn't pan out. But, Cosmic has had a lot of special moments today. Hope he calms down a bit, for his own sake.

LOL.

Yeah, I've gone off the deep end recently.

*shrugs*

Well, we all have an off day from time to time. As with anything, there may have been a bit of truth in what you were saying but you probably aren't going to get anywhere by presenting your point so roughly. This is a strange board sometimes. I don't always find the views here to be typical. Sometimes that's good, sometimes it's not.

Anyway, hope you're feeling better. We've all been there before.

iSergio wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Olbrannon wrote:

Ira wrote:I'll play. Using the current draftexpress.com mock draft to determine who might be available when we pick, my choices are Jerome Jordan and Jerome Randle.

Randle was the star at Portsmouth and by all accounts I've read the best player there. As some have pointed out it takes more than 5 players to win a game much less a championship the days of Press Maravich and pro ball without substitutes are well behind us.

My personal take is the league is edging towards big PGs and Torrance and Uzoh are 6-5/6-4 both athletic Uzoh more so than Torrance although Torrance might be preferred by the Knicks for a slightly better jumpshot. I like the player[randle] but not for the Knicks.

Size is a little overrated with PG's imo. All 4 PG's (Steve Nash, Derek Fisher, Jameer Nelson, Rajon Rondo) in the Conference Finals were small. A PG being 6' or 6'1" is not a big deal as long as he can shoot, has quickness and basketball IQ. Being a 6'4" PG means nothing if you can't do any of those.