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6/3/2010  11:44 PM
whoever Lebron wants to play with, that's who i think we need to sign... i could care less about loyalty to players who've helped us be a crappy team for the past several years... that deserves no loyalty in my eyes... bottomline it's about winning games... we need to target the players who will help us win the most games & hopefully a championship... y'all can wipe my ass with this loyalty garbage, please.
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6/4/2010  12:58 AM
To David's defense, pun intended, he's playing out of position, right?
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6/4/2010  1:42 AM
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iSergio wrote:Ridiculous. I REALLY hope David Lee is off the team next year. You're the worst defender in the entire league and you're out there practicing taking threes. LOL Unbelieavable.

it could be a directive from his coach.

Nope...probably a directive from his agent, and of course he makes sure that everyone is notified.

Lee might as well lose 25 lbs (he has never worked on his strength) and become a small forward, which is where he seems to be heading.

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6/4/2010  6:23 AM
scoshin wrote:Pretty sure Lee outscored most centers he faced against.

The problem isn't just center vs center matchups though. It's about not having an intimidator in the paint, to deter dribble penetration. Some of the blame goes to our guards for being awful at perimeter defense, but the fact that David Lee doesn't even sacrifice his body to draw charges, let alone block shots, is killing us in the paint. We pretty much have an open lane once a guard/forward gets past our perimeter defense.

there is some truth in what you say but, here's my take: I think Lee, with his understanding of the game (and also likely from coach too) realizes that he HAS to remain on the floor. He's the only good and consistent rebounder (is that even a word) on the team and knows he/Knicks can't afford for him to sit because of foul trouble. This could have something to do with his lack of intensity. ITS DOESN'T EXCUSE HIM but, I think it has some merit.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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6/4/2010  7:48 AM
crzymdups wrote:i have no problem keeping dlee - if we can't get bosh. but i'd take lee over amare.

all three of them need the same thing: a shotblocking big to play next to and a playmaking wing to get them the ball. look at what that did for gasol on the lakers. bynum played defense and kobe created space for him.

lee's main limitation on defense is that he's small. he's not a 6'11" guy and never will be. his arms aren't long enough to block shots left and right. within those limitations he's a great player.

that said, i'd still take bosh over him.


from a pure BB standpoint the pecking order is Amare, Bosh then Lee. How wouldnt you take Amare first? Did you watch him play at all this year? He was one of the 2-3 best players in the NBA the 2nd half of the year and carried the Suns.

TMS why not trade Gallo, Chandler and Douglas also? Obviously we watch sports for different reasons. For me winning a championship means more when the core guys are your own. I watched it twice with the Giants. I watched it with the Yankees. I would like to watch it with the Knicks. Lee is Knick. I'm happy he's developed into an all star and have zero doubt he can be part of winning team. I would like to see that.

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6/4/2010  7:55 AM
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crzymdups wrote:i have no problem keeping dlee - if we can't get bosh. but i'd take lee over amare.

all three of them need the same thing: a shotblocking big to play next to and a playmaking wing to get them the ball. look at what that did for gasol on the lakers. bynum played defense and kobe created space for him.

lee's main limitation on defense is that he's small. he's not a 6'11" guy and never will be. his arms aren't long enough to block shots left and right. within those limitations he's a great player.

that said, i'd still take bosh over him.


from a pure BB standpoint the pecking order is Amare, Bosh then Lee. How wouldnt you take Amare first? Did you watch him play at all this year? He was one of the 2-3 best players in the NBA the 2nd half of the year and carried the Suns.

TMS why not trade Gallo, Chandler and Douglas also? Obviously we watch sports for different reasons. For me winning a championship means more when the core guys are your own. I watched it twice with the Giants. I watched it with the Yankees. I would like to watch it with the Knicks. Lee is Knick. I'm happy he's developed into an all star and have zero doubt he can be part of winning team. I would like to see that.

Agree 100%. And to say we can't win anything with Lee is silly. He clearly has a unique skill set that would compliment a superstar like LeBron perfectly. We would still need a defensive presence, but we're not getting that with any of this years free agent bigs, so that need would still need to be filled no matter what.

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6/4/2010  8:04 AM
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fishmike wrote:Lee has been very outspoken about improving defensively. If you havent heard him say that you have chosen not to listen. Simple fact is Lee was NOT a good offensive player and did not have any legit offensive skills to build on when he came into the league. He was a garbage hustle guy who your happy to get at pick 30. Since then he's improved his passing, shooting, handle and post moves to the point where he became an all star. Thats everything you hope for in a guy you draft. Thats a self made guy, and he did it though some of the worst management and coaching and sports history.

But who cares about signing your own guy when you can over pay for someone else's star who leads his team to 35 wins a year?

If Lebron wants to come to NY great. The self importance these guys possess is mind boggling

Exactly, and now there saying in so many words, that in order for LBJ to play for the knicks they would need to sign bosh or amare..Im certain that lee will be better then bosh when all is said and done...

I'm not taking anything away from Bosh because he is a great player, but for any super star ( especially a guy like james who has a hell've a work ethic, to not see the potential in LEE and his work ethic, is really fooling himself.

Fish you hit it on the nose for reconizing the fact that Lee has not had a coach (especially defensively) to hone his defensive skills..He knew what MDA system required, and came back to be one of the best big men mid range shooters in the game( at this point he might be the best) his IQ has also develope, and I really cant see why NYK would not retian this kid services...

Talk about no loyalty

Herb Williams, big man coach. Pretty much been here the whole time.
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6/4/2010  8:08 AM
I agree that Bosh is better than Lee. But Bosh will also cost more than Lee. The question is, how much more?
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6/4/2010  8:15 AM
franco12 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
fishmike wrote:Lee has been very outspoken about improving defensively. If you havent heard him say that you have chosen not to listen. Simple fact is Lee was NOT a good offensive player and did not have any legit offensive skills to build on when he came into the league. He was a garbage hustle guy who your happy to get at pick 30. Since then he's improved his passing, shooting, handle and post moves to the point where he became an all star. Thats everything you hope for in a guy you draft. Thats a self made guy, and he did it though some of the worst management and coaching and sports history.

But who cares about signing your own guy when you can over pay for someone else's star who leads his team to 35 wins a year?

If Lebron wants to come to NY great. The self importance these guys possess is mind boggling

Exactly, and now there saying in so many words, that in order for LBJ to play for the knicks they would need to sign bosh or amare..Im certain that lee will be better then bosh when all is said and done...

I'm not taking anything away from Bosh because he is a great player, but for any super star ( especially a guy like james who has a hell've a work ethic, to not see the potential in LEE and his work ethic, is really fooling himself.

Fish you hit it on the nose for reconizing the fact that Lee has not had a coach (especially defensively) to hone his defensive skills..He knew what MDA system required, and came back to be one of the best big men mid range shooters in the game( at this point he might be the best) his IQ has also develope, and I really cant see why NYK would not retian this kid services...

Talk about no loyalty

Herb Williams, big man coach. Pretty much been here the whole time.

Lee has never been on a team that played any defense at all. When we had that one good month and Hughes, JJ, Chandler and Duhon were all playing well and defending well Lee's defense was much improved. Then we went to crap.

Lee is never ever going to be a great help defender, but he's shown he can keep a body on his man, box out and clean the glass. If you going to shoot 55% and be the all star on offense that he is thats good enough. He's not a guy thats going to protect the rim. Bosh sure as hell isnt either though.

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6/4/2010  9:56 AM
fishmike wrote:
franco12 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
fishmike wrote:Lee has been very outspoken about improving defensively. If you havent heard him say that you have chosen not to listen. Simple fact is Lee was NOT a good offensive player and did not have any legit offensive skills to build on when he came into the league. He was a garbage hustle guy who your happy to get at pick 30. Since then he's improved his passing, shooting, handle and post moves to the point where he became an all star. Thats everything you hope for in a guy you draft. Thats a self made guy, and he did it though some of the worst management and coaching and sports history.

But who cares about signing your own guy when you can over pay for someone else's star who leads his team to 35 wins a year?

If Lebron wants to come to NY great. The self importance these guys possess is mind boggling

Exactly, and now there saying in so many words, that in order for LBJ to play for the knicks they would need to sign bosh or amare..Im certain that lee will be better then bosh when all is said and done...

I'm not taking anything away from Bosh because he is a great player, but for any super star ( especially a guy like james who has a hell've a work ethic, to not see the potential in LEE and his work ethic, is really fooling himself.

Fish you hit it on the nose for reconizing the fact that Lee has not had a coach (especially defensively) to hone his defensive skills..He knew what MDA system required, and came back to be one of the best big men mid range shooters in the game( at this point he might be the best) his IQ has also develope, and I really cant see why NYK would not retian this kid services...

Talk about no loyalty

Herb Williams, big man coach. Pretty much been here the whole time.

Lee has never been on a team that played any defense at all. When we had that one good month and Hughes, JJ, Chandler and Duhon were all playing well and defending well Lee's defense was much improved. Then we went to crap.

Lee is never ever going to be a great help defender, but he's shown he can keep a body on his man, box out and clean the glass. If you going to shoot 55% and be the all star on offense that he is thats good enough. He's not a guy thats going to protect the rim. Bosh sure as hell isnt either though.


Fish, I've made that point here multiple times. It always gets ignored like the fact that he typically outplays other centers. Does that mean most centers suck at defense. That point always gets ignored as well

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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6/4/2010  10:25 AM
fishmike wrote:
franco12 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
fishmike wrote:Lee has been very outspoken about improving defensively. If you havent heard him say that you have chosen not to listen. Simple fact is Lee was NOT a good offensive player and did not have any legit offensive skills to build on when he came into the league. He was a garbage hustle guy who your happy to get at pick 30. Since then he's improved his passing, shooting, handle and post moves to the point where he became an all star. Thats everything you hope for in a guy you draft. Thats a self made guy, and he did it though some of the worst management and coaching and sports history.

But who cares about signing your own guy when you can over pay for someone else's star who leads his team to 35 wins a year?

If Lebron wants to come to NY great. The self importance these guys possess is mind boggling

Exactly, and now there saying in so many words, that in order for LBJ to play for the knicks they would need to sign bosh or amare..Im certain that lee will be better then bosh when all is said and done...

I'm not taking anything away from Bosh because he is a great player, but for any super star ( especially a guy like james who has a hell've a work ethic, to not see the potential in LEE and his work ethic, is really fooling himself.

Fish you hit it on the nose for reconizing the fact that Lee has not had a coach (especially defensively) to hone his defensive skills..He knew what MDA system required, and came back to be one of the best big men mid range shooters in the game( at this point he might be the best) his IQ has also develope, and I really cant see why NYK would not retian this kid services...

Talk about no loyalty

Herb Williams, big man coach. Pretty much been here the whole time.

Lee has never been on a team that played any defense at all. When we had that one good month and Hughes, JJ, Chandler and Duhon were all playing well and defending well Lee's defense was much improved. Then we went to crap.

Lee is never ever going to be a great help defender, but he's shown he can keep a body on his man, box out and clean the glass. If you going to shoot 55% and be the all star on offense that he is thats good enough. He's not a guy thats going to protect the rim. Bosh sure as hell isnt either though.

Wrong. Maybe this works in fantasy basketball or in the regular season but once you get into the Playoffs, your bigs NEED to defend. Watch some Playoff games and tell me how a team with the worst defensive PF in the NBA is supposed to win.
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6/4/2010  11:05 AM
TMS..you moreless are refering to Lee as a loser because thats all he's done here, I wasn't aware of how much better or how much more success Bosh has been having in Toronto..there both have a bunch of avg players around them. If the shoe was on the other Bosh wins possible a hand full off games more then lee, bt nothing consistant.

We talked about the fact that lee never had a defensive minded coach...Amare says MDA never focus on D and Amare (since mda departed) has shown flashes of solid d (nothing to write home about) and seems willing to give a good effort.

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6/4/2010  11:13 AM
iSergio wrote:
fishmike wrote:
franco12 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
fishmike wrote:Lee has been very outspoken about improving defensively. If you havent heard him say that you have chosen not to listen. Simple fact is Lee was NOT a good offensive player and did not have any legit offensive skills to build on when he came into the league. He was a garbage hustle guy who your happy to get at pick 30. Since then he's improved his passing, shooting, handle and post moves to the point where he became an all star. Thats everything you hope for in a guy you draft. Thats a self made guy, and he did it though some of the worst management and coaching and sports history.

But who cares about signing your own guy when you can over pay for someone else's star who leads his team to 35 wins a year?

If Lebron wants to come to NY great. The self importance these guys possess is mind boggling

Exactly, and now there saying in so many words, that in order for LBJ to play for the knicks they would need to sign bosh or amare..Im certain that lee will be better then bosh when all is said and done...

I'm not taking anything away from Bosh because he is a great player, but for any super star ( especially a guy like james who has a hell've a work ethic, to not see the potential in LEE and his work ethic, is really fooling himself.

Fish you hit it on the nose for reconizing the fact that Lee has not had a coach (especially defensively) to hone his defensive skills..He knew what MDA system required, and came back to be one of the best big men mid range shooters in the game( at this point he might be the best) his IQ has also develope, and I really cant see why NYK would not retian this kid services...

Talk about no loyalty

Herb Williams, big man coach. Pretty much been here the whole time.

Lee has never been on a team that played any defense at all. When we had that one good month and Hughes, JJ, Chandler and Duhon were all playing well and defending well Lee's defense was much improved. Then we went to crap.

Lee is never ever going to be a great help defender, but he's shown he can keep a body on his man, box out and clean the glass. If you going to shoot 55% and be the all star on offense that he is thats good enough. He's not a guy thats going to protect the rim. Bosh sure as hell isnt either though.

Wrong. Maybe this works in fantasy basketball or in the regular season but once you get into the Playoffs, your bigs NEED to defend. Watch some Playoff games and tell me how a team with the worst defensive PF in the NBA is supposed to win.

Gasol and Amare dont defend anyone and they playing in the West finals. Who was the great defensive PF for the MAgic? Rashard Lewis? Maybe you should go watch some playoffs and tell me what you see. Of the final 4 teams in the NBA 3 got there because of scoring. The only team dedicated to defense is the Celtics. Of course I'm pretty sure you dont really watch much. We could always go back to that thread where you named like 10 guys who were better than Amare
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6/4/2010  11:33 AM
The big question for me is this:

If Lee becomes consistent from the 3, does that make him more compatible to play with a guy like Bosh.

If Lee expands his game over the summer, both he and Bosh could dominate the 4/5 positions against most teams.

Bosh C
Lee PF
Gallinari SF
Chandler SG
Douglas/? PG

That's not a bad team, considering you have a chance to get Melo or Chris Paul next offseason.
It would also leave us enough cap this year to offer a Mid level exception type of contract to another free agent.
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6/4/2010  11:34 AM
should i rename the thread "david three aka fish's coming out party"?
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6/4/2010  11:38 AM
fishmike wrote:
iSergio wrote:
fishmike wrote:
franco12 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
fishmike wrote:Lee has been very outspoken about improving defensively. If you havent heard him say that you have chosen not to listen. Simple fact is Lee was NOT a good offensive player and did not have any legit offensive skills to build on when he came into the league. He was a garbage hustle guy who your happy to get at pick 30. Since then he's improved his passing, shooting, handle and post moves to the point where he became an all star. Thats everything you hope for in a guy you draft. Thats a self made guy, and he did it though some of the worst management and coaching and sports history.

But who cares about signing your own guy when you can over pay for someone else's star who leads his team to 35 wins a year?

If Lebron wants to come to NY great. The self importance these guys possess is mind boggling

Exactly, and now there saying in so many words, that in order for LBJ to play for the knicks they would need to sign bosh or amare..Im certain that lee will be better then bosh when all is said and done...

I'm not taking anything away from Bosh because he is a great player, but for any super star ( especially a guy like james who has a hell've a work ethic, to not see the potential in LEE and his work ethic, is really fooling himself.

Fish you hit it on the nose for reconizing the fact that Lee has not had a coach (especially defensively) to hone his defensive skills..He knew what MDA system required, and came back to be one of the best big men mid range shooters in the game( at this point he might be the best) his IQ has also develope, and I really cant see why NYK would not retian this kid services...

Talk about no loyalty

Herb Williams, big man coach. Pretty much been here the whole time.

Lee has never been on a team that played any defense at all. When we had that one good month and Hughes, JJ, Chandler and Duhon were all playing well and defending well Lee's defense was much improved. Then we went to crap.

Lee is never ever going to be a great help defender, but he's shown he can keep a body on his man, box out and clean the glass. If you going to shoot 55% and be the all star on offense that he is thats good enough. He's not a guy thats going to protect the rim. Bosh sure as hell isnt either though.

Wrong. Maybe this works in fantasy basketball or in the regular season but once you get into the Playoffs, your bigs NEED to defend. Watch some Playoff games and tell me how a team with the worst defensive PF in the NBA is supposed to win.

Gasol and Amare dont defend anyone and they playing in the West finals. Who was the great defensive PF for the MAgic? Rashard Lewis? Maybe you should go watch some playoffs and tell me what you see. Of the final 4 teams in the NBA 3 got there because of scoring. The only team dedicated to defense is the Celtics. Of course I'm pretty sure you dont really watch much. We could always go back to that thread where you named like 10 guys who were better than Amare

What? You are blind and biased. And I never listed 10 players better than Amare Stoudemire.
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iSergio wrote:
fishmike wrote:
iSergio wrote:
fishmike wrote:
franco12 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
fishmike wrote:Lee has been very outspoken about improving defensively. If you havent heard him say that you have chosen not to listen. Simple fact is Lee was NOT a good offensive player and did not have any legit offensive skills to build on when he came into the league. He was a garbage hustle guy who your happy to get at pick 30. Since then he's improved his passing, shooting, handle and post moves to the point where he became an all star. Thats everything you hope for in a guy you draft. Thats a self made guy, and he did it though some of the worst management and coaching and sports history.

But who cares about signing your own guy when you can over pay for someone else's star who leads his team to 35 wins a year?

If Lebron wants to come to NY great. The self importance these guys possess is mind boggling

Exactly, and now there saying in so many words, that in order for LBJ to play for the knicks they would need to sign bosh or amare..Im certain that lee will be better then bosh when all is said and done...

I'm not taking anything away from Bosh because he is a great player, but for any super star ( especially a guy like james who has a hell've a work ethic, to not see the potential in LEE and his work ethic, is really fooling himself.

Fish you hit it on the nose for reconizing the fact that Lee has not had a coach (especially defensively) to hone his defensive skills..He knew what MDA system required, and came back to be one of the best big men mid range shooters in the game( at this point he might be the best) his IQ has also develope, and I really cant see why NYK would not retian this kid services...

Talk about no loyalty

Herb Williams, big man coach. Pretty much been here the whole time.

Lee has never been on a team that played any defense at all. When we had that one good month and Hughes, JJ, Chandler and Duhon were all playing well and defending well Lee's defense was much improved. Then we went to crap.

Lee is never ever going to be a great help defender, but he's shown he can keep a body on his man, box out and clean the glass. If you going to shoot 55% and be the all star on offense that he is thats good enough. He's not a guy thats going to protect the rim. Bosh sure as hell isnt either though.

Wrong. Maybe this works in fantasy basketball or in the regular season but once you get into the Playoffs, your bigs NEED to defend. Watch some Playoff games and tell me how a team with the worst defensive PF in the NBA is supposed to win.

Gasol and Amare dont defend anyone and they playing in the West finals. Who was the great defensive PF for the MAgic? Rashard Lewis? Maybe you should go watch some playoffs and tell me what you see. Of the final 4 teams in the NBA 3 got there because of scoring. The only team dedicated to defense is the Celtics. Of course I'm pretty sure you dont really watch much. We could always go back to that thread where you named like 10 guys who were better than Amare

What? You are blind and biased. And I never listed 10 players better than Amare Stoudemire.

I'm neither. And are you kidding? You dont remember your list of frontcourt players better than Amare? It was hilarious. It was also like 2 weeks ago. Pretty funny it slipped your mind.
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6/4/2010  11:48 AM
nyvector16 wrote:The big question for me is this:

If Lee becomes consistent from the 3, does that make him more compatible to play with a guy like Bosh.

If Lee expands his game over the summer, both he and Bosh could dominate the 4/5 positions against most teams.

Bosh C
Lee PF
Gallinari SF
Chandler SG
Douglas/? PG

That's not a bad team, considering you have a chance to get Melo or Chris Paul next offseason.
It would also leave us enough cap this year to offer a Mid level exception type of contract to another free agent.

That Line up needs a bonifide PG, Toney D will not cut it, he's not a starter in any sense

ES
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6/4/2010  11:52 AM
Fish, you're confusing me with someone else. I never listed 10 PF's better than Amare Stoudemire. And STAT and Pau Gasol are 100000x better than David Lee on D. Watch the games man. Lee plays zero D. Dude lays down and get's out of the way when a guard half his size comes in for a layup. His post D is a joke with the "Jazz Hands" technique. He only took like 3 charges the entire season. Unacceptable from your starting PF/C. Hopefully we've seen the last of him and we can enjoy the layup line when we play his team next year and beyond.
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