u can't succeed with 2 frontcourt players that play zero D... it's pretty basic... unless you have some elite talent playing on the perimeter, someone's gotta defend the paint for your team to be any good, it's been proven time & time again

TMS wrote:when we traded for Zach people around here were carrying on about how he & Curry would be a perfect tandem in our frontcourt... we were adding a 23 & 10 guy to our 20 & 8 C... we'd be a force to be reckoned with in the East... they scared now... people seem to have short term memory loss around these parts.

u can't succeed with 2 frontcourt players that play zero D... it's pretty basic... unless you have some elite talent playing on the perimeter, someone's gotta defend the paint for your team to be any good, it's been proven time & time again

Curry & Zach was even more of an offensive mess than D. Curry had no midrange game and so he was lost out there when Zach was doing his thing. Then as you mentioned on the other end there was literally two Galapagos Tortoises out there and we would give up points all too easily.

I think DW's not even remotely interested in having a Pair of bigs that can't defend anymore. He comes from a solid defensive background and I think he wants to return some semblance of interior defense to this team this summer. I just don't expect to see some lumbering bigs out there. It's gonna be a quick and agile team with length. That's why Bosh is gonna be a prime target. People don't like his D, but I think he's the kind of player DW is gonna be looking at. He's gonna give MDA the kind of players he needs to play the way he wants to play.

How would a trio of Bosh PF/Barron C/Gallo SF work for you?

Panos wrote:

nixluva wrote:

TMS wrote:when we traded for Zach people around here were carrying on about how he & Curry would be a perfect tandem in our frontcourt... we were adding a 23 & 10 guy to our 20 & 8 C... we'd be a force to be reckoned with in the East... they scared now... people seem to have short term memory loss around these parts.

u can't succeed with 2 frontcourt players that play zero D... it's pretty basic... unless you have some elite talent playing on the perimeter, someone's gotta defend the paint for your team to be any good, it's been proven time & time again

Curry & Zach was even more of an offensive mess than D. Curry had no midrange game and so he was lost out there when Zach was doing his thing. Then as you mentioned on the other end there was literally two Galapagos Tortoises out there and we would give up points all too easily.

I think DW's not even remotely interested in having a Pair of bigs that can't defend anymore. He comes from a solid defensive background and I think he wants to return some semblance of interior defense to this team this summer. I just don't expect to see some lumbering bigs out there. It's gonna be a quick and agile team with length. That's why Bosh is gonna be a prime target. People don't like his D, but I think he's the kind of player DW is gonna be looking at. He's gonna give MDA the kind of players he needs to play the way he wants to play.

How would a trio of Bosh PF/Barron C/Gallo SF work for you?

Why is it when something happens you explain how its the greatest thing since slice bread,
and when it fails you totally flip-flop and have all the excuses why it failed, and why
the new slice of bread is so much better and different and won't fail, until it does...?

lol... seriously, the spin doctoring by some cats around here is impressive.

TMS wrote:

Panos wrote:

nixluva wrote:

TMS wrote:when we traded for Zach people around here were carrying on about how he & Curry would be a perfect tandem in our frontcourt... we were adding a 23 & 10 guy to our 20 & 8 C... we'd be a force to be reckoned with in the East... they scared now... people seem to have short term memory loss around these parts.

u can't succeed with 2 frontcourt players that play zero D... it's pretty basic... unless you have some elite talent playing on the perimeter, someone's gotta defend the paint for your team to be any good, it's been proven time & time again

Curry & Zach was even more of an offensive mess than D. Curry had no midrange game and so he was lost out there when Zach was doing his thing. Then as you mentioned on the other end there was literally two Galapagos Tortoises out there and we would give up points all too easily.

I think DW's not even remotely interested in having a Pair of bigs that can't defend anymore. He comes from a solid defensive background and I think he wants to return some semblance of interior defense to this team this summer. I just don't expect to see some lumbering bigs out there. It's gonna be a quick and agile team with length. That's why Bosh is gonna be a prime target. People don't like his D, but I think he's the kind of player DW is gonna be looking at. He's gonna give MDA the kind of players he needs to play the way he wants to play.

How would a trio of Bosh PF/Barron C/Gallo SF work for you?

Why is it when something happens you explain how its the greatest thing since slice bread,
and when it fails you totally flip-flop and have all the excuses why it failed, and why
the new slice of bread is so much better and different and won't fail, until it does...?

lol... seriously, the spin doctoring by some cats around here is impressive.

To further this thought, and its something I just realized.

We're a franchise that just won 29 games, and we're a franchise with major holes that is not bringing back hardly anyone from the current season, but instead hoping that somehow we can sign one or two major free agents, and then a whole bunch of minimum salary types to fill in the roster.

Unless we get Lebron, I think 2010/11 is going to be an ugly season.

AnubisADL wrote:If no LBJ we should try to sign Joe Johnson and Resign David Lee.

An alternative less likely scenario would be trading Curry for Arenas. We then offer a team like Golden State salary relief to take Maggette, Turiaf(C), and Randolph(PF/SF) off their hands for Chandler and filler. Hopefully Lebron only signs a 3 yr deal and we try again.

come on dude... why are you in love with joe? i hope the team has zero interest in him based on what he is gonna cost

sidsanders wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:If no LBJ we should try to sign Joe Johnson and Resign David Lee.

An alternative less likely scenario would be trading Curry for Arenas. We then offer a team like Golden State salary relief to take Maggette, Turiaf(C), and Randolph(PF/SF) off their hands for Chandler and filler. Hopefully Lebron only signs a 3 yr deal and we try again.

come on dude... why are you in love with joe? i hope the team has zero interest in him based on what he is gonna cost

I dont love Joe Johnson. I prefer Arenas because he has a shorter deal.

My issue is we dont own our pick next year. So if we suck Houston will benefit. Joe Johnson would at least make us playoff contenders. Hopefully Chandler and Gallo progress as well.

franco12 wrote:

TMS wrote:

Panos wrote:

nixluva wrote:

TMS wrote:when we traded for Zach people around here were carrying on about how he & Curry would be a perfect tandem in our frontcourt... we were adding a 23 & 10 guy to our 20 & 8 C... we'd be a force to be reckoned with in the East... they scared now... people seem to have short term memory loss around these parts.

u can't succeed with 2 frontcourt players that play zero D... it's pretty basic... unless you have some elite talent playing on the perimeter, someone's gotta defend the paint for your team to be any good, it's been proven time & time again

Curry & Zach was even more of an offensive mess than D. Curry had no midrange game and so he was lost out there when Zach was doing his thing. Then as you mentioned on the other end there was literally two Galapagos Tortoises out there and we would give up points all too easily.

I think DW's not even remotely interested in having a Pair of bigs that can't defend anymore. He comes from a solid defensive background and I think he wants to return some semblance of interior defense to this team this summer. I just don't expect to see some lumbering bigs out there. It's gonna be a quick and agile team with length. That's why Bosh is gonna be a prime target. People don't like his D, but I think he's the kind of player DW is gonna be looking at. He's gonna give MDA the kind of players he needs to play the way he wants to play.

How would a trio of Bosh PF/Barron C/Gallo SF work for you?

Why is it when something happens you explain how its the greatest thing since slice bread,
and when it fails you totally flip-flop and have all the excuses why it failed, and why
the new slice of bread is so much better and different and won't fail, until it does...?

lol... seriously, the spin doctoring by some cats around here is impressive.

I didn't put any spin on my observations about what happened when Curry n Zach actually played together. I stated a fact! When got Zach I looked at his skills and how he played and felt he could play with a C like Curry. Curry is the one that went into a shell. Defense was never going to be a strength with those two involved. I expected that we'd see a lot of minutes where Zach was in the game with Lee and not Curry and this shouldve given Curry a chance to play as he did before. It was a reasonable expectation.

Why should I be less optimistic about our future frontcourt which has a chance to include an All Star just cuz Zach and Curry didn't work? I'm not alone in being wrong about a prediction here. I'm just an easy target. I wasn't wrong about Lee or Gallo. I wasn't wrong about Q Rich being able to recover after his surgery. There are in fact many predictions I got blasted for that I got right but it's fashionable to only bring up the misses.

AnubisADL wrote:

sidsanders wrote:arenas!!!! thats even worse. have we not had enough insane nutters on this team??? if he wasnt a nut job, was a real pg, i could live with picking him up. however if the 1st 2 parts there were true, do you think he would even be available? why do we need to be the team picking up garbage hoping this time, it will turn around?

Arenas can still shoot regardless. Plus now he has something to prove. Dolan isnt going to allow a natural rebuild through the draft so we might as well get used to a perpetual cycle of trading for guys.

The guy has 4 yrs left making max dollars with a suspect knee. Now Im assuming with the new Wizards owner we could get some other pieces in the Arenas trade.

Arenas and McGee plus a future first would be sweet. I dont see teams lining up to take that salary off their hands.

i sure hope walsh isnt considering this. free up space to get .... flippin mr poop shoe???

John Salmons is worth the Max

Alright go ahead and argue against these two statements.