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ItalianStallion
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4/28/2010  3:57 PM
I'd be satisfied to see a front line of Bosh, Tyrus Thomas, and Gallo. They would be athletic enough, fit D'Antoni's style, and be balanced enough offensively and defensively to work. There might be some match up problems, but Rome wasn't built in a day. When Curry comes off the cap we could possibly look to add a bigger bruiser type for some situations.

I'm less sure about Lee, Tyrus Thomas and Gallo. Bosh and Tyrus both are undersized as Cs, but together they are pretty good C/PF combo size wise, on the boards, shot blocking etc... Lee gives you so little defensively, even with TT I think it may not work. It would be WAAAAY better than having Jeffries, but not huge.

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4/28/2010  4:07 PM
ItalianStallion wrote:I'd be satisfied to see a front line of Bosh, Tyrus Thomas, and Gallo. They would be athletic enough, fit D'Antoni's style, and be balanced enough offensively and defensively to work. There might be some match up problems, but Rome wasn't built in a day. When Curry comes off the cap we could possibly look to add a bigger bruiser type for some situations.

I'm less sure about Lee, Tyrus Thomas and Gallo. Bosh and Tyrus both are undersized as Cs, but together they are pretty good C/PF combo size wise, on the boards, shot blocking etc... Lee gives you so little defensively, even with TT I think it may not work. It would be WAAAAY better than having Jeffries, but not huge.

you think Lee's defense is suspect wait till you pay Bosh $17mm and actually watch him every day
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ItalianStallion
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4/28/2010  4:09 PM
fishmike wrote:
ItalianStallion wrote:I'd be satisfied to see a front line of Bosh, Tyrus Thomas, and Gallo. They would be athletic enough, fit D'Antoni's style, and be balanced enough offensively and defensively to work. There might be some match up problems, but Rome wasn't built in a day. When Curry comes off the cap we could possibly look to add a bigger bruiser type for some situations.

I'm less sure about Lee, Tyrus Thomas and Gallo. Bosh and Tyrus both are undersized as Cs, but together they are pretty good C/PF combo size wise, on the boards, shot blocking etc... Lee gives you so little defensively, even with TT I think it may not work. It would be WAAAAY better than having Jeffries, but not huge.

you think Lee's defense is suspect wait till you pay Bosh $17mm and actually watch him every day

I realize that Bosh is not a great defender, but it's demonstrable that he's much better than Lee.

As to which is a better value at the probably salaries, that's a very legitimate debate.

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4/28/2010  4:19 PM
fishmike wrote:
ItalianStallion wrote:I'd be satisfied to see a front line of Bosh, Tyrus Thomas, and Gallo. They would be athletic enough, fit D'Antoni's style, and be balanced enough offensively and defensively to work. There might be some match up problems, but Rome wasn't built in a day. When Curry comes off the cap we could possibly look to add a bigger bruiser type for some situations.

I'm less sure about Lee, Tyrus Thomas and Gallo. Bosh and Tyrus both are undersized as Cs, but together they are pretty good C/PF combo size wise, on the boards, shot blocking etc... Lee gives you so little defensively, even with TT I think it may not work. It would be WAAAAY better than having Jeffries, but not huge.

you think Lee's defense is suspect wait till you pay Bosh $17mm and actually watch him every day

I've been watching a long time and there is nobody on this planet as bad defensively as David Lee. NBDL players (ie. Earl Barron) play MUCH better D. That tells you everything. Chris Bosh is not even close as bad defensively as The Doorman. Nobody is. That's why Lee is worth half the max at $8M imo for only playing and giving effort on one side of the court.

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4/28/2010  4:32 PM
iSergio wrote:
fishmike wrote:
ItalianStallion wrote:I'd be satisfied to see a front line of Bosh, Tyrus Thomas, and Gallo. They would be athletic enough, fit D'Antoni's style, and be balanced enough offensively and defensively to work. There might be some match up problems, but Rome wasn't built in a day. When Curry comes off the cap we could possibly look to add a bigger bruiser type for some situations.

I'm less sure about Lee, Tyrus Thomas and Gallo. Bosh and Tyrus both are undersized as Cs, but together they are pretty good C/PF combo size wise, on the boards, shot blocking etc... Lee gives you so little defensively, even with TT I think it may not work. It would be WAAAAY better than having Jeffries, but not huge.

you think Lee's defense is suspect wait till you pay Bosh $17mm and actually watch him every day

I've been watching a long time and there is nobody on this planet as bad defensively as David Lee. NBDL players (ie. Earl Barron) play MUCH better D. That tells you everything. Chris Bosh is not even close as bad defensively as The Doorman. Nobody is. That's why Lee is worth half the max at $8M imo for only playing and giving effort on one side of the court.

Dude Dlee is not a good defender by any stretch, but to say he's the worst in the league, is ridiculous.

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4/28/2010  4:32 PM
iSergio wrote:
fishmike wrote:
ItalianStallion wrote:I'd be satisfied to see a front line of Bosh, Tyrus Thomas, and Gallo. They would be athletic enough, fit D'Antoni's style, and be balanced enough offensively and defensively to work. There might be some match up problems, but Rome wasn't built in a day. When Curry comes off the cap we could possibly look to add a bigger bruiser type for some situations.

I'm less sure about Lee, Tyrus Thomas and Gallo. Bosh and Tyrus both are undersized as Cs, but together they are pretty good C/PF combo size wise, on the boards, shot blocking etc... Lee gives you so little defensively, even with TT I think it may not work. It would be WAAAAY better than having Jeffries, but not huge.

you think Lee's defense is suspect wait till you pay Bosh $17mm and actually watch him every day

I've been watching a long time and there is nobody on this planet as bad defensively as David Lee. NBDL players (ie. Earl Barron) play MUCH better D. That tells you everything. Chris Bosh is not even close as bad defensively as The Doorman. Nobody is. That's why Lee is worth half the max at $8M imo for only playing and giving effort on one side of the court.

is a long time > or < an hour?
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TMS
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4/29/2010  11:14 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
TMS wrote:LOL! u know the options are becoming severely limited when we're sitting here wondering why Channing Frye would ever leave his team to come to NY.

The options at this position have been limited for some time now, good teams play good team defense, I mean lets get real, how many defensive shut down centers are out there.

Doesn't even matter if your back court is a welcome wagon into the paint, your Center is going to be in foul trouble majority of the time.

if our solution to fill the C position this summer is Channing Frye i think that might just put me over the edge.

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4/30/2010  7:00 PM
When all the alternatives are multi million dollar flops, the answer lies in the developmental league. Pluck a hungry defensive big from the ranks and make it work. A one or two year deal will be more then enough to hold us until an adequate big comes along. We got more mileage out off Barron than Curry, James, Lee or Darko. It was a pleasure to see him try to play the middle. Most effort seen since Ewing.
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4/30/2010  7:34 PM
Marv wrote:13-f**king-million dollars for tyson chandler for next year???? he is a HORRIBLE player.

tyrus thomas i am extremely unimpressed with. but at 6M i could see it possibly being worth a shot. gotta wonder though how much mda would be interested in playing him.

Totally agree, absolutely no way in hell should we pay money to Tyson Chandler. Don't we have enough Bull'scrap on the team already?

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4/30/2010  11:08 PM
Meanwhile, Bulls backup Brad Miller, a free-agent center target for the Knicks, deserves an award for being the first NBA player to publicly state he has no interest in joining the Knicks.

"I'm not going to New York,'' the outdoorsy Miller said, responding to The Post's report about Donnie Walsh's interest.

Normally, a player expresses interest, then uses the Knicks for leverage.

LOL, this is pretty sad

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5/2/2010  1:55 PM
TMS wrote:
Meanwhile, Bulls backup Brad Miller, a free-agent center target for the Knicks, deserves an award for being the first NBA player to publicly state he has no interest in joining the Knicks.

"I'm not going to New York,'' the outdoorsy Miller said, responding to The Post's report about Donnie Walsh's interest.

Normally, a player expresses interest, then uses the Knicks for leverage.

LOL, this is pretty sad

I wonder why...

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TMS
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5/2/2010  3:59 PM
maybe we can lock up Earl the Pearl Barron to a longterm extension to be our bigname acquisition this summer.
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5/2/2010  6:44 PM
ItalianStallion wrote:
fishmike wrote:
ItalianStallion wrote:I'd be satisfied to see a front line of Bosh, Tyrus Thomas, and Gallo. They would be athletic enough, fit D'Antoni's style, and be balanced enough offensively and defensively to work. There might be some match up problems, but Rome wasn't built in a day. When Curry comes off the cap we could possibly look to add a bigger bruiser type for some situations.

I'm less sure about Lee, Tyrus Thomas and Gallo. Bosh and Tyrus both are undersized as Cs, but together they are pretty good C/PF combo size wise, on the boards, shot blocking etc... Lee gives you so little defensively, even with TT I think it may not work. It would be WAAAAY better than having Jeffries, but not huge.

you think Lee's defense is suspect wait till you pay Bosh $17mm and actually watch him every day

I realize that Bosh is not a great defender, but it's demonstrable that he's much better than Lee.

As to which is a better value at the probably salaries, that's a very legitimate debate.

No he's not. Chris Bosh is almost as bad as David Lee as defense. He hardly makes an impact at all on that end, and he's the guy with a higher ceiling than David Lee, on that end. Taller, longer arms, more athletic and fluid, yet he's right with Lee. It says something about Bosh.

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