MS wrote:I'm sure AROD loved it here. The guy won 2 MVP's in 3 years and was booed out of the stadium. New York isn't for everyone. You need a different makeup to play here.

Winning in New York is special. The Rangers are basically a non story here when they make the playoffs and don't go to the conference finals. How many big time guys have come here and wilted under the pressure?

Look a guy like Garnett. Never made a big basket in his career. You come to NY and you can't hide. ISergio you seem to have no idea what you're talking about. Patrick Ewing? The guy was miserable here. He had the team in the playoffs every year and had to deal with Jordan. The media killed the guy the fans gave him a heard time and he is twice the player Bosh will ever be. Playing in this city isn't all it's cracked up to be unless you're on the Yankees.

I respect you have a different opinion but please stop making up lies. Patrick Ewing was not miserable here.

MS wrote:We are in serious trouble. New York is not really that desirable a location. The living expenses are a joke the weather is terrible, the franchise is one of the worst in the sport, the owner is hated and the talent is medicore. Throw in the media and I think most guys are taking a pass. Mentally tough guys just don't exist.

If you are Chris Bosh why would you come to NY. You can get max dollars from five teams. The weather is Miami and Wade? Deng, Noah, Gibson, Rose that team becomes are favorite in the east if they add bosh and he won't have to carry the load. The Thunder would be the best team in the league with him on the roster. Or you could go to NY play out of position and have no point guard to throw you the ball. Not happening.

Boozer is putting up huge numbers in the playoffs and the nets will overpay someone. He can get max dollars from the heat and the bulls so it doesn't make sense to come to NY. UTAH will probably resign him.

Joe Johnson, Rudy Gay, Raymond Felton, Livingston, Ray Allen, Haywood, David Lee, Foye, Lowry, Scola.

That's all we are really looking at. Which means lottery again, no lottery pick and giving away a draft pick for nothing.

best drinking city in the nation.

case closed.

iSergio wrote:

jimimou wrote:

iSergio wrote:

jimimou wrote:

iSergio wrote:The chances of us getting shut out are slim to none. This is New York. Once FA's come and visit, they will be fighting each other to sign here.

i highly doubt that. any of these guys have enough money to get out to ny and party/enjoy the sights....no need to play here to be able to do that. what exactly do the kicks have to offer that is so enticing to FA's again?

It's about legacy and opportunities.

ny has no legacy and no opportunities if you dont get lebron this year. please try again.

It has nothing to do with LeBron James but it's pointless trying to explain this to someone who hates New York as a city. I guess by your thinking, all free agents are dying to play in Sacramento and Milwaukee, right?

i've lived in manhattan my whole life - please take your foot off the accelerator b/c you dont know jack about me or the city i've lived in for the past 20 yrs.

nyk4ever wrote:jimi gettin gangster on sergio

yeah and trying to pass himself off as 20.

I see jimi's point, and I live here
too. Grass is greener?

Some people love cities, some people (like Durant) love the boondocks.

You see the Knicks listed all over the place in the exhibits at Springfield... partially because we've played the Washington Generals role in a lot of great roundball moments (Wilt's 100-pointer for instance). But we've done our thing too. The town itself gets respect as a b-ball town. But the Yankees are on a whole other level in terms of their dominance & innovation in their sport, and I'm a Mets fan.

There are so many reasons why people choose where they live and work. Some folks love driving in huge cars on huge roads and eating at Cheesecake Factory. That's why I was really hoping we got Steve Nash that summer, not only because of how important a PG & leadership in the System, but because the guy already lives here and loves it here.

MS wrote:Exactly the point jimimou.

Very few players actually have respect historically for the game. There is this perception that guys want to play here. But when was the last time anyone good ever really used the Knicks for anything more than leverage.

I think the Knicks are very similiar to St. John's. Hanging on by a thread to their past and using the garden as the big selling point. The Blazers, Thunder, Warriors, Cavs all have great home crowds that rival New York. They appreciate their teams because they are the biggest thing in the city.

Again if you could live by the beach and have 75 degree weather all day long would you? Yes. The action in this city is great, but there is a reason people bust there asses to move someplace warm to retire.

Frankly the old man has been asleep at the wheel and hasn't drafted by need and failed to pay our greatest asset. Now because he wasn't doing his job we are going to have to go 4-5 million more per year to keep the guy. Because when most of the free agents re-up David Lee is going to get a ton of interest.

DW was doing his job and he did exactly what he set out to do and that was clear cap space. We already didn't have a pick this year and he decided he was going to use cap space instead of using the picks we had left and in order to have even more space and completely remake this team he sold off Hill to do it. I don't think we will be sorry that he did. There are just too many players that will be looking for a new situation and if i'm right and DW has a bit of a good idea on what the Agents will be advising, I think he'll get something good done.

I just don't understand this idea that we're some scrub franchise that no one would choose to play for if we have the money to pay them. The last time we had money we were able to get H2O and I think that worked out well for us overall. It could've ended better but I liked the talent we ended up with. This time we're again trying to land one of the BEST players in the world and we've got a great shot to get someone to bite. It's only going to take one guy and then the flood gates will open.

misterearl wrote:None of the big ticket free agents will sign with the Knicks this Summer. Donnie HAD to give it his best shot and he did. Chris Mullin takes over on December first and the Knicks head back to the 2011 draft lottery

David Lee leaves for New Jersey and Channing Frye makes the all star team coming of Pboenixs NBA title

you heard it here first

What in God's name? Did someone hijack your account?

nixluva wrote:

MS wrote:Exactly the point jimimou.

Very few players actually have respect historically for the game. There is this perception that guys want to play here. But when was the last time anyone good ever really used the Knicks for anything more than leverage.

I think the Knicks are very similiar to St. John's. Hanging on by a thread to their past and using the garden as the big selling point. The Blazers, Thunder, Warriors, Cavs all have great home crowds that rival New York. They appreciate their teams because they are the biggest thing in the city.

Again if you could live by the beach and have 75 degree weather all day long would you? Yes. The action in this city is great, but there is a reason people bust there asses to move someplace warm to retire.

Frankly the old man has been asleep at the wheel and hasn't drafted by need and failed to pay our greatest asset. Now because he wasn't doing his job we are going to have to go 4-5 million more per year to keep the guy. Because when most of the free agents re-up David Lee is going to get a ton of interest.

Tell me what's so great about Cleveland and OKC? NY is so far and away superior to those towns it's a joke to even bring it up.

DW was doing his job and he did exactly what he set out to do and that was clear cap space. We already didn't have a pick this year and he decided he was going to use cap space instead of using the picks we had left and in order to have even more space and completely remake this team he sold off Hill to do it. I don't think we will be sorry that he did. There are just too many players that will be looking for a new situation and if i'm right and DW has a bit of a good idea on what the Agents will be advising, I think he'll get something good done.

I just don't understand this idea that we're some scrub franchise that no one would choose to play for if we have the money to pay them. The last time we had money we were able to get H2O and I think that worked out well for us overall. It could've ended better but I liked the talent we ended up with. This time we're again trying to land one of the BEST players in the world and we've got a great shot to get someone to bite. It's only going to take one guy and then the flood gates will open.

Bosh is the most likely to leave his team. I say the knicks recruit him first because both Wade and lebron want to play with him

To me its worth giving up some assets for a chance to aquire a player or god forbid players of that caliber.

Now its likely we dont, and thats ok. Thems the brakes. We were in it. We tried. We had our shot. You get the idea.

What happens after doesnt have to be the end of the world. If you can bring back the guy who made the all star team at a reasonable rate (my pick is 6 years $70mm, starts at $9mm) your roster is a clean slate. You have Douglas, Gallo, Walker, Lee and Chandler. You have a pair of 2nd rounders and about $25mm in cap space left to make deals.

So let Walsh make deals. Thats always been his strong point since he's been an NBA GM.