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knicks1248
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3/31/2010  12:39 PM
...And as another poster hinted at, how many haters posters would be on him if he had said the "team" has to play better or do this or that without taking personal responsibility for his own part in the loss?

Some folks just can't give this kid a break.

It really is a team effort, but what i would like to hear is that we have to do a better job defending, The jazz shot 85% and we were right there with them.

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3/31/2010  12:50 PM
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Bippity10 wrote:Nothing wrong with what he said, and I don't know how anyone can turn it into a negative. If he truly believes these things in his heart then he will become a better player. IF not, then he is just talking, like all the other players here that have talked and talked and talked. That being said, he is in his second year. How can you complain about the guy that asked to defend the best players, now blaming himself for losses. What is wrong with you people? It sad that people are so jaded from years of failure that they are missing a few very solid young guys develop mentally and physcailly right in front of our eyes.

Now it's up to Gallo to prove he believes what he says.........But as he does that, as a fan I remember he is only 21

Cuase we heard it all before, How can you blame people for not putting much merit in those comments. It works both ways Bip

So ignore the statement. Doesn't make the guy a bad guy for saying it. Just means a reporter approached him and this is what they talked about. The question is does he beleive it??? A true player that wants to get better will eventually say these things and will eventually follow through on what they say. If Gallo is that guy it will play itself out. If he's not, it will also play itself out. the proof will eventually be on the floor. But my question is, why get worked up one way or another everytime a player says soemthing to the media. Nothing wrong with what he said, it actually was good what he said. I hope he truly feels that way. Other than that all I care about is how he performs on the court.

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3/31/2010  12:51 PM
misterearl wrote:I'm convinced that Gallo could play effectively at center. His upper body is thick and he can work on strengthening his base over the summer.

At 6'10 he would afford 6'9 David Lee less wear and tear on defense and his offense can be adapted to an inside-out game. The best part is that if you add 6'11 Chris Bosh at skill forward, the Knicks suddenly have a versatile, ball-handling, willing to defend, frontline that is highly skilled in the art of the jump shot.

dude.. he's a 2/3/4 guy, and I wouldnt want him at 4. He's much better guarding smaller guys than bigger ones. He's not soft, but his skill set = perimeter player
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3/31/2010  12:54 PM
One of the reasons why it's so tough to play in NY

Reporter: You look down, what's wrong
Player: I played poorly. If I had done more we may have won the game
Fans: He's grandstanding, he's all talk, Shut up and play, boooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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3/31/2010  12:55 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/31/2010  12:56 PM
holfresh wrote:
sebstar wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:Nothing wrong with what he said, and I don't know how anyone can turn it into a negative. If he truly believes these things in his heart then he will become a better player. IF not, then he is just talking, like all the other players here that have talked and talked and talked. That being said, he is in his second year. How can you complain about the guy that asked to defend the best players, now blaming himself for losses. What is wrong with you people? It sad that people are so jaded from years of failure that they are missing a few very solid young guys develop mentally and physcailly right in front of our eyes.

Now it's up to Gallo to prove he believes what he says.........But as he does that, as a fan I remember he is only 21

No one is saying we don't want him to succeed or get better...All we are saying is we heard it before and it's doesn't mean anything...Just lip service..Not worth to be written about..Tell me after you worked on your game all summer and added new wrinkles like Magic, Bird, Kobe and Jordan has done in their careers and add consistency to your game...People go nuts at Duhon clapping and cheering his team at the end of the bench...Means nothing...

yeah, but why are we talking about all time greats like Bean, Earvin, and MJ? In the league pretty much every player has to articulate before they can put it into action. Absorb and learn. Cant expect everybody to come in like Lebron.

He's got the right attitude. Thats always good to see.

Who is saying come in like LeBron or MJ...All I'm saying is work hard...Players in this uniform over the past 10 years have all said it...I have heard it all b4...It doesn't bring a smile to my face anymore...He isn't Lebron nor do I expect him to be...

Isnt there some middle ground? I'm not trying to throw a ticker tape parade for his comments, but I'm not trying to shyt on it either. I think its peek into his character, nothing more nothing less.

And I invoked Lebron because you were talking about all-time greats. Yeah, Gallo has experienced growing pains, every mortal player does. Those players you were talking about we're obvious superstars out the gate.

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3/31/2010  1:08 PM
There is some difference between the talk of our young guys and the talk of our former vets. Our former vets used to talk about the need to "bring it everynight" or play defense harder, or get their intensity up. They used to talk about how they are in the best shape of their lives etc. There is a very big difference between their talk and our young guys talk

David Lee-Said he needed to work on his J and it's obvious he did
Wilson-Said he was settling to much for the three and needed to improve his midrange game. He obviously did
Gallo-Asked for the challenge to guard the best offensive player so he could improve his defense. And has clearly not embarrassed himself
Tony Douglas-Small sample but the one time I heard him speak he said "I can't let my offense effect my defense". The next night he is flying all over the place on the defensive end.

It's the exact opposite situation. The other teams had talent but lacked cohesion and commitment. Talent seems to be the only thing that may hold this group back. The effort and the commitment seems to be there. Again Gallo took on the defensive responsibility. Now that he's verbalized the offensive responsibility let's see if he can live up to it.

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3/31/2010  1:11 PM
sebstar wrote:
holfresh wrote:
sebstar wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:Nothing wrong with what he said, and I don't know how anyone can turn it into a negative. If he truly believes these things in his heart then he will become a better player. IF not, then he is just talking, like all the other players here that have talked and talked and talked. That being said, he is in his second year. How can you complain about the guy that asked to defend the best players, now blaming himself for losses. What is wrong with you people? It sad that people are so jaded from years of failure that they are missing a few very solid young guys develop mentally and physcailly right in front of our eyes.

Now it's up to Gallo to prove he believes what he says.........But as he does that, as a fan I remember he is only 21

No one is saying we don't want him to succeed or get better...All we are saying is we heard it before and it's doesn't mean anything...Just lip service..Not worth to be written about..Tell me after you worked on your game all summer and added new wrinkles like Magic, Bird, Kobe and Jordan has done in their careers and add consistency to your game...People go nuts at Duhon clapping and cheering his team at the end of the bench...Means nothing...

yeah, but why are we talking about all time greats like Bean, Earvin, and MJ? In the league pretty much every player has to articulate before they can put it into action. Absorb and learn. Cant expect everybody to come in like Lebron.

He's got the right attitude. Thats always good to see.

Who is saying come in like LeBron or MJ...All I'm saying is work hard...Players in this uniform over the past 10 years have all said it...I have heard it all b4...It doesn't bring a smile to my face anymore...He isn't Lebron nor do I expect him to be...

Isnt there some middle ground? I'm not trying to throw a ticker tape parade for his comments, but I'm not trying to shyt on it either. I think its peek into his character, nothing more nothing less.

And I invoked Lebron because you were talking about all-time greats. Yeah, Gallo has experienced growing pains, every mortal player does. Those players you were talking about we're obvious superstars out the gate.

I brought up their names because their offseason work has been legendary, not to compare Gallo to those guys...Ewing is another guy that comes to mind in terms of offseason work...I could say Stalks but who would think he worked hard in the offseason...

And in terms of feeling good about his comments...fine...I don't get that warm feel in my belly...All fluff to me...But run with it...

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3/31/2010  1:12 PM
Fair enough.
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3/31/2010  1:12 PM
Bippity10 wrote:There is some difference between the talk of our young guys and the talk of our former vets. Our former vets used to talk about the need to "bring it everynight" or play defense harder, or get their intensity up. They used to talk about how they are in the best shape of their lives etc. There is a very big difference between their talk and our young guys talk

David Lee-Said he needed to work on his J and it's obvious he did
Wilson-Said he was settling to much for the three and needed to improve his midrange game. He obviously did
Gallo-Asked for the challenge to guard the best offensive player so he could improve his defense. And has clearly not embarrassed himself
Tony Douglas-Small sample but the one time I heard him speak he said "I can't let my offense effect my defense". The next night he is flying all over the place on the defensive end.

It's the exact opposite situation. The other teams had talent but lacked cohesion and commitment. Talent seems to be the only thing that may hold this group back. The effort and the commitment seems to be there. Again Gallo took on the defensive responsibility. Now that he's verbalized the offensive responsibility let's see if he can live up to it.


which is why I want to keep them together. We got all that cap space to add talent, whoever it is. Bringing talent in to a group of rotation guys that work to improve like the examples you mentioned above is the first smell of a plan I have whiffed in 10 years.
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3/31/2010  2:34 PM
fish.mike - Red Auerbach was famous for saying, "I don't need to categorize guys as a three or four... I want basketball players"

I happen to agree with him.

Gallo, Lee and Bosh would make an effective trio. All three can advance the ball, all are good passers, all can shoot the pill and they can compliment each other on defense.

Chandler and Douglas handle the majority of clock management and table setting.

Bill Walker is a starter once he resolves his excessive foul issues.

That makes six.

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3/31/2010  2:47 PM
misterearl wrote:fish.mike - Red Auerbach was famous for saying, "I don't need to categorize guys as a three or four... I want basketball players"

I happen to agree with him.

Gallo, Lee and Bosh would make an effective trio. All three can advance the ball, all are good passers, all can shoot the pill and they can compliment each other on defense.

Chandler and Douglas handle the majority of clock management and table setting.

Bill Walker is a starter once he resolves his excessive foul issues.

That makes six.


this is just silly. What about Gallo's game implies he's a 5? Nothing. You want him to succeed and grow? Put him where his skills will be maximized. Put him where he can use his size, not be victim because of it. Put him where he can cause damage, not recieve it. Red Aurbach said "playing guards at center is dumb."
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3/31/2010  3:31 PM
misterearl wrote:I'm convinced that Gallo could play effectively at center. His upper body is thick and he can work on strengthening his base over the summer.

At 6'10 he would afford 6'9 David Lee less wear and tear on defense and his offense can be adapted to an inside-out game. The best part is that if you add 6'11 Chris Bosh at skill forward, the Knicks suddenly have a versatile, ball-handling, willing to defend, frontline that is highly skilled in the art of the jump shot.

Danilo Gallinari at Center?

Gallo is a SF. He doesn't have a Centers body or the skills for the position. Can you imagine Gallo trying to guard Dwight Howard or even Kendrick Perskins? Scary!

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3/31/2010  3:46 PM
PF: Chris Bosh
SF: Danilo Gallinari
C: David Lee

Yuck.

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3/31/2010  6:08 PM
Bippity10 wrote:So ignore the statement. Doesn't make the guy a bad guy for saying it. Just means a reporter approached him and this is what they talked about. The question is does he beleive it??? A true player that wants to get better will eventually say these things and will eventually follow through on what they say. If Gallo is that guy it will play itself out. If he's not, it will also play itself out. the proof will eventually be on the floor. But my question is, why get worked up one way or another everytime a player says soemthing to the media. Nothing wrong with what he said, it actually was good what he said. I hope he truly feels that way. Other than that all I care about is how he performs on the court.

Gallo has to make that step. Having the will is a good first step, but delivering on what he promises is what will set him apart.
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3/31/2010  7:07 PM
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BRIGGS wrote:How about concentrate on taking good shots and passing/rebounding the ball a bit more. It's a team game--you didn't miss a wide open lay up to lose the game by 1 point--this is youthful grandstanding--I don't think it's intentional but certainly isnt necessary.
The Knicks rely on his offense and his shooting. No, he's not the leading scorer but they need him to knock down those open 3's when defenders collapse.

The guy is playing very very hard on defense. He's not getting a lot of rebounds but is anyone playing harder on defense?

We know he is studying film on other teams to better defend. He's basically taking on the other team's better scoring players. He's not locking anyone down but he's got pretty solid fundmentals. Even when Carmello was lighting it up what made it so impressive was that Gallo challenged every shot.

Look.. the guy has work to do. He's 21 and hasnt played a 100 games in the league yet. 9 months ago Briggs you were destroying management daily for drafting a kid with a bum back that may or may not have a career as a shooting role player in the league. Now we critisizing his defense on Deron Williams and Carmello Anthony. The guy is a good player now and people around the league are noticing.

He's taking his licks now and thats fine. The guy is becoming player. Enjoy the process.

Anyone think the group of Chandler, Gallo, Lee and Douglas are worth keeping together? They seem pretty hungry to get better and improve

Great post, except the "lee" part. Knitpicking, really.

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3/31/2010  7:09 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/31/2010  7:44 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Gallo has the ego to be a superstar. It is yet to be seen if he has the talent.

That's what we are waiting for before we can say his future potential is so great that he has arrived.

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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3/31/2010  7:15 PM
WindsorPl wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:So ignore the statement. Doesn't make the guy a bad guy for saying it. Just means a reporter approached him and this is what they talked about. The question is does he beleive it??? A true player that wants to get better will eventually say these things and will eventually follow through on what they say. If Gallo is that guy it will play itself out. If he's not, it will also play itself out. the proof will eventually be on the floor. But my question is, why get worked up one way or another everytime a player says soemthing to the media. Nothing wrong with what he said, it actually was good what he said. I hope he truly feels that way. Other than that all I care about is how he performs on the court.

Gallo has to make that step. Having the will is a good first step, but delivering on what he promises is what will set him apart.

No doubt. That's the wait and see part. Success may never come, but to me he's shown me on the court already that he's willing to take on the challenge. That's most of the battle. NOw the question will be, does he work hard enough, and will he acquire enough knowledge and talent to make that next step. He's 21 so the journey is just beginning. Personally I'm having fun watching Gallo and Wilson and Douglas and Walker and some others develop. There is no Lebron or Durant in the group but this doesn't mean that I can't be excited by what we do have. The culture here is definitely changing. Before we had vets taht were more concerned with their scoring averages and paychecks then anything else. NOw we have a group of young guys that work hard, play hard and are legitimately affected by losing. It's what I was asking for, for about 9 seasons now. It's nice.

Now the hard part is finding a star.

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