TMS wrote:[b[right now Gallo is pretty much Rashard Lewis with better defense[/b]... whether you consider that good or not depends on your personal preference, but the difference is that he's only 21 years old & still developing all aspects of his game, so we can't pigeon hole him into being stuck as any 1 type of player for the long haul... for all we know he comes back next year w/15 lbs of added muscle & a more refined low post game... it's not that unrealistic to imagine... i think it's clear this kid has a ton of talent & a promising future ahead of him... what he makes of that future is up to him, but i like what i see so far.

Rashard Lewis? The old Orlando Lewis maybe minus the athleticism. Lewis started drifting out to the 3 point line when he got to Orlando. Lewis athletically could literally step around SF's are throw it DOWN. Gallo adding 15 pounds will just make him slower. He needs to get stronger not necessarily gain weight.

kam77 wrote:

TMS wrote:

kam77 wrote:IWHTGPMU!

WTFAYS?

idiots who hated the gallo pick man up.

lol

AnubisADL wrote:

TMS wrote:[b[right now Gallo is pretty much Rashard Lewis with better defense[/b]... whether you consider that good or not depends on your personal preference, but the difference is that he's only 21 years old & still developing all aspects of his game, so we can't pigeon hole him into being stuck as any 1 type of player for the long haul... for all we know he comes back next year w/15 lbs of added muscle & a more refined low post game... it's not that unrealistic to imagine... i think it's clear this kid has a ton of talent & a promising future ahead of him... what he makes of that future is up to him, but i like what i see so far.

Rashard Lewis? The old Orlando Lewis maybe minus the athleticism. Lewis started drifting out to the 3 point line when he got to Orlando. Lewis athletically could literally step around SF's are throw it DOWN. Gallo adding 15 pounds will just make him slower. He needs to get stronger not necessarily gain weight.

compare their statlines this season & they're almost identical... i don't think Gallo ever came into the league hyped for his over the rim athleticism anyway... & getting stronger & working on his low post skills is what i was alluding to... let's not argue semantics.

eViL wrote:

playa2 wrote:ALL YOUNG PLAYERS FROM ALL LOSING TEAMS ARE PLAYING WITH A CHIP ON THEIR SHOULDER.

They are playing with no pressure IN GAMES DOWN THE STRETCH and when they go up against teams in the playoff picture they have the ability to look at it as a playoff game with nothing to lose.

If these young players act like this in the beginning of the regular season then I will say WOW !

haha. i don't know why i found this funny.

Evil it's funny because maybe it's true .

AnubisADL wrote:

eViL wrote:can we revisit some of the major criticisms that many had for gallo before we got to see him play a significant amount of time? is he still a soft euro? does he still play no d? is he still a one trick pony? does he still have no mobility? is he still only a garbage time scorer? looks like some people may have rushed to judgment.

The guy isnt an SF. When he puts the ball on the floor he moves like molasses and gets pathetic lift when he gets contact. Now for a PF that is no big deal but when you want to dance around the perimeter against SF's you need some explosiveness.

His man to man defense is also HIGHLY overrated. I dont think we should be praising Gallo for wanting to guard Carmelo when Carmelo would have dropped 50 if it wasn't for JR Smith chucking in the 4th. I see Gallo as more an ideal help defender around the rim because of his length.

Gallo needs to move closer to the rim and not fall in love with his jumper. For a supposed great shooter he went 1/7 in the first half. Brandon Jennings shoots a higher 3 pt% than Gallo and Jennings is no Ray Allen plus Jennings was considered a brick mason before the draft.

You are way off on his man to man D. You recognize that he is a probably a PF, but don't take into consideration who he is guarding and how he is being used defensively on the Knicks. Please tell me how top players 6'10" and above end up on PGs, SGs, and SFs? Please, let me know who Dirk or Hedu, or any of the players Gallo is being compared to, are guarding on a regular basis. He is far from perfect, but I would like to see other guys his height guarding the smaller, quicker players he is facing on the perimeter. He gets beaten off the dribble sometimes, but more often than not he is staying in front of guys who other players his size would only be covering on switches, and he almost always gets a hand in the face of guys who are trying to hit jumpers against him. Brook's shooting the other night was only amazing because Gallinari was guarding him so well and had a hand in his face..

I thought he should have taken it to the basket more in the 4th last night. He seemed to have lost his touch after MDA sat him down the beginning of the 4 quarter. He needs other shots he can go to when his J is not there. He has made adjustments this year, though, and is going to the basket much more than last year.

He has made great strides this season. We have a very good young player with a lot of space to improve, who I believe will be a future leader on the Knicks and the type of guy who will be able to fit in with any FAs we pick up in the future.

Paladin55 wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

eViL wrote:can we revisit some of the major criticisms that many had for gallo before we got to see him play a significant amount of time? is he still a soft euro? does he still play no d? is he still a one trick pony? does he still have no mobility? is he still only a garbage time scorer? looks like some people may have rushed to judgment.

The guy isnt an SF. When he puts the ball on the floor he moves like molasses and gets pathetic lift when he gets contact. Now for a PF that is no big deal but when you want to dance around the perimeter against SF's you need some explosiveness.

His man to man defense is also HIGHLY overrated. I dont think we should be praising Gallo for wanting to guard Carmelo when Carmelo would have dropped 50 if it wasn't for JR Smith chucking in the 4th. I see Gallo as more an ideal help defender around the rim because of his length.

Gallo needs to move closer to the rim and not fall in love with his jumper. For a supposed great shooter he went 1/7 in the first half. Brandon Jennings shoots a higher 3 pt% than Gallo and Jennings is no Ray Allen plus Jennings was considered a brick mason before the draft.

He will probably end up being a PF, but I think you underestimate his ability to drive to the basket. He usually gets free when he decides to drive (He left Battier in the dust the other day), and usually makes good decisions. He is also gangly enough at this time to pick up fouls on a regular basis when he does drive, and once again, you can't forget that he has not matured physically. This is not the Gallo you will see in a few years going to the basket.

You are way off on his man to man D. You recognize that he is a probably a PF, but don't take into consideration who he is guarding and how he is being used defensively on the Knicks. Please tell me how top players 6'10" and above end up on PGs, SGs, and SFs? Please, let me know who Dirk or Hedu, or any of the players Gallo is being compared to, are guarding on a regular basis. He is far from perfect, but I would like to see other guys his height guarding the smaller, quicker players he is facing on the perimeter. He gets beaten off the dribble sometimes, but more often than not he is staying in front of guys who other players his size would only be covering on switches, and he almost always gets a hand in the face of guys who are trying to hit jumpers against him. Brook's shooting the other night was only amazing because Gallinari was guarding him so well and had a hand in his face..

I thought he should have taken it to the basket more in the 4th last night. He seemed to have lost his touch after MDA sat him down the beginning of the 4 quarter. He needs other shots he can go to when his J is not there. He has made adjustments this year, though, and is going to the basket much more than last year.

He has made great strides this season. We have a very good young player with a lot of space to improve, who I believe will be a future leader on the Knicks and the type of guy who will be able to fit in with any FAs we pick up in the future.

Gallo is not going to get faster as he ages. Gallo's best asset is his length. When he drives from the 3 point line he ends up having to pick up his dribble early and takes his two steps. Sometimes he has nowhere to go and has to make a jump pass. Sometimes he throws up pure garbage. He does not have the foot speed to get a step on SF's AND keep that step ahead. His lack of speed allows the defender to recover unless he is close enough to the rim to use his length. Getting by old ass Battier? Come on now.

Hedo has some serious ball handling ability against guards. Dirk makes his living inside the 3 point line.

Im not knocking Gallo's talent. Im criticizing his fascination with jacking 3's. We dont need Troy Murphy we need Dirk Nowitski.

AnubisADL wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Seems to me the 3P% is the fairer statistic in comparing someones efficiency in shooting 3's which helps to remove deviations due to styles of play.

Pause.

Neither rating is perfect but you can obviously see eFG% is highly skewed when we are just talking about shooting 3's since it includes 2 points.

PTI - But I thought the point they are making is that its useless to compare just 3 point shots. When a player is on the court and you are measuring how effective his offense is you need to look at he efg%

Gallo had probably the best game of his career and its amazing that you cant find a single positive thing to say about him.

AnubisADL wrote:Gallo is not going to get faster as he ages. Gallo's best asset is his length. When he drives from the 3 point line he ends up having to pick up his dribble early and takes his two steps. Sometimes he has nowhere to go and has to make a jump pass. Sometimes he throws up pure garbage. He does not have the foot speed to get a step on SF's AND keep that step ahead. His lack of speed allows the defender to recover unless he is close enough to the rim to use his length. Getting by old ass Battier? Come on now.

Hedo has some serious ball handling ability against guards. Dirk makes his living inside the 3 point line.

Im not knocking Gallo's talent. Im criticizing his fascination with jacking 3's. We dont need Troy Murphy we need Dirk Nowitski.

Yeah...he is going to become a little quicker. He has not finished developing physically. You do understand this, I hope? Not everyone comes into the league fully developed physically. The fact that there was talk of Gallinari still growing when the Knicks drafted him tells me that he still has a way to go before he hits his physical prime, and his injury set him back also.

Gallo, when he decides to, can get to the basket- I don't know how you have not seen this, and his decision making and finishing will get better as he becomes more comfortable in the league. We have already seen a few drives by him where he surprised us with his finish- I expect to see more of this in the future, but his success will still be determined by his outside shot. The drive against Battier was there because Battier was playing too close in an attempt to stop his J- it was a situational play, which Gallinari has to do more of, by the way. I agree with you that he has to diversify his offensive game, and I think you will see him do more of this in the upcoming years, just he has done this year, by the way.

I am sometimes amazed when people on UK act as if all players come into the league already at their full potential both physically, mentally, and ability-wise. One would think that observing D Lee for the past 5 years you would understand that players can evolve. There is no way that anyone could have predicted where he would be offensively at this time, given the way he entered the league- and he entered the NBA at 22 yrs old, by the way. There is no way that you would have expected Lee to be driving to the basket as he does now, or shooting midrange jumpers with the confidence he now shoots them with, based on what you saw in his first year with the Knicks.

Gallo has about 2 years to go before you really see what he is capable of doing, and if I am wrong, I will admit it, but his NBA game is still in its infancy right now, and anything you see on the floor today is subject to change tomorrow.

AnubisADL wrote:

Marv wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

eViL wrote:can we revisit some of the major criticisms that many had for gallo before we got to see him play a significant amount of time? is he still a soft euro? does he still play no d? is he still a one trick pony? does he still have no mobility? is he still only a garbage time scorer? looks like some people may have rushed to judgment.

The guy isnt an SF. When he puts the ball on the floor he moves like molasses and gets pathetic lift when he gets contact. Now for a PF that is no big deal but when you want to dance around the perimeter against SF's you need some explosiveness.

His man to man defense is also HIGHLY overrated. I dont think we should be praising Gallo for wanting to guard Carmelo when Carmelo would have dropped 50 if it wasn't for JR Smith chucking in the 4th. I see Gallo as more an ideal help defender around the rim because of his length.

Gallo needs to move closer to the rim and not fall in love with his jumper. For a supposed great shooter he went 1/7 in the first half. Brandon Jennings shoots a higher 3 pt% than Gallo and Jennings is no Ray Allen plus Jennings was considered a brick mason before the draft.

jennings is hitting 39.4% of his 315 3-point attempts, which is very good. gallo's hitting 38.8% of his 417. hardly seems like the comparison to be making if you're trying to make a point.

?

Jennings supposedly is a undersized brick mason with no jumper.

Gallo is a 7 footer who is the best shooter D'Antoni has ever seen and was billed as a shooter from day 1.

I dont see the problem because it is a percentage. If anything maybe someone should tell Gallo he should be jacking LESS 3's.

How bout the fact that they're both shooting a better percentage then Ray Allen? 38.8% is a good percentage. He should be taking less three's I agree but I think he has been doing more lately - he's getting to the line a lot.