djsunyc wrote:people can say whatever they want in the press. i really don't pay any attention to it. imho, this has been engineered by the nba offices for a while. does one expect stern to actually say "i would like to see him in ny?"

So now it's pick and choose to use when to use quotes. Gotcha. In the interview he also spoke of how big Lebron already is. Lebron has locked up new deals with McDonald's, Coca~Cola, Nike while in Cleveland and he hasn't stepped foot in NYC yet.

Personally I think it's Lebron's methodology of dismantling a franchise without doing anything and we're falling for it. Stern wants to protect the LEAGUE not any one TEAM

Stern absolutely was involved.

Now, is he involved in steering players to the Knicks? I doubt it. But there's no doubt he would be grinning ear to ear if the Knicks put together another powerhouse team and returned to being a top EC team again.

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As to DJ's take on the Raptors situation: Again, it makes sense. Stern probably did have a hand in steering Colangelo to the Raptors. Was the draft rigged? I don't know. Probably a decent chance it is. But again, Stern can't steer players but maybe he talks to agents in some way.

It would be of no surprise and there are plenty of hints it goes on.

There have been enough blatantly rigged games over the years to show the league shapes it's products in what they believe are subtle ways.

The NBA has for quite some time been more of an entertainment venue than a legit sports venue. Just too many questions out there to think it's a pure sport that runs itself.

It was mentioned in the NYC media the Raps might be interested in doing a S&T for Lee. So the 2 Max theory is for Stern to take Bosh from the Raps cripple Toronto and Lebron from the Cavs to cripple Cleveland in a poor NBA economy..... to elevate New York when other conspiracies suggest it was Stern who maneuvered Lebron to Cleveland for the #1 overall pick and helped the Raptors rebound as an International/Global Model Franchise for the NBA after Carter left.

Seems to me he would be undoing a lot of hard conspiracy work he put in wouldn't you say? But maybe it doesn't apply for Toronto Stern is still focusing on keeping that together it's Cleveland he wants to bring to their knees.

I mean Cleveland I believe is the only Franchise to have the strongest Chinese Investment if not the only. Who maneuvered that? Dan Gilbert? Lebron? or maybe it was Danny Green?

Juice wrote:If we roll with the conspiracy theories does this mean Stern is maneuvering for New York to still Bosh away from the Raptors?

It was mentioned in the NYC media the Raps might be interested in doing a S&T for Lee. So the 2 Max theory is for Stern to take Bosh from the Raps cripple Toronto and Lebron from the Cavs to cripple Cleveland in a poor NBA economy..... to elevate New York when other conspiracies suggest it was Stern who maneuvered Lebron to Cleveland for the #1 overall pick and helped the Raptors rebound as an International/Global Model Franchise for the NBA after Carter left.

i don't know about bosh...but i think he wants the batman guy in ny. i don't think he cares about the robin.

with so many teams losing money, he needs to start generating some for the league. cavs will suffer a set back but don't you think they will get some help soon enough? maybe yao goes there in 2011 for some financial gains? would you be surprised if they land #1 pick in 2012?

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sebstar wrote:Neither do any of us.

self-ether.

so why bring it up?

esther rolle...

cause you're on a knick site, as a former knick fan turned traitor, rolling out all these lame ass conspiracy theories like you got tin foil on your head.

Gag @ cheering for a team that played with a big, ugly ass dinosaur logo on their jersey like they were some bytch ass arena league team. Nash is Canadian and even he wont touch you peasants. Stock up on Kleenex for when we snatch Bosh from ya'll and give him hope. Cry now.

djsunyc wrote:

Juice wrote:If we roll with the conspiracy theories does this mean Stern is maneuvering for New York to still Bosh away from the Raptors?

It was mentioned in the NYC media the Raps might be interested in doing a S&T for Lee. So the 2 Max theory is for Stern to take Bosh from the Raps cripple Toronto and Lebron from the Cavs to cripple Cleveland in a poor NBA economy..... to elevate New York when other conspiracies suggest it was Stern who maneuvered Lebron to Cleveland for the #1 overall pick and helped the Raptors rebound as an International/Global Model Franchise for the NBA after Carter left.

i don't know about bosh...but i think he wants the batman guy in ny. i don't think he cares about the robin.

with so many teams losing money, he needs to start generating some for the league. cavs will suffer a set back but don't you think they will get some help soon enough? maybe yao goes there in 2011 for some financial gains? would you be surprised if they land #1 pick in 2012?

I added to this quoted post above...I was still editing but carrying on

Stern wants strongest earnings now. He's not going for hopeful premium price points in the future. So you tie Chinese presence in Cleveland to Yao in the future but don't recognize Lebron's huge presence overseas in China now? So not only is Stern trying to dismantle Cleveland/Raptors/now we must add the Rockets into the picture.

This is why conspiracies are comical, they usually don't make sense. Stern definitely has vested interests in certain things but he's not far out extreme with them. New York is already a profitable franchise and will be with or without major stars.

What about the Kobe and Phil Jackson conspiracy can we run with this one too? Neither have signed extensions and both are EGO driven. Maybe both end up in NYC

listen, y'all don't have to agree, i don't care. but it's not like you guys know what you're talking about either.

Think about Donnie's quotes about him probably not even being here if it all doesn't pan out. Just says to me here is a man towards the end of his career who is trying to reach for a bit of immortality himself: St. Donnie, Savior of the Knickerbockers. What GM wouldn't want to be remembered like that? And if he fails, he just gets in the back of the line of a pantheon of NYC basketball scapegoats.