Marv wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:You compare him to jordan because of his physical abilities and is off the charts IQ. The league is now set up for guys to fly through lane untouch. just imagine the beaten he would have taken if oak, lambier, rodman, dale davis, mason, ya know the guy's that would clobber you (head first) for coming in the lane especially during the playoffs.

did those guys stop jordan? now take a look at lebron's body.

Actually they did, thats when he develope a wicked jump shot. most guys come into the league skinny and get stronger and bigger, I can't imagine james getting any bigger or stronger then he is now, the guy's like OX. I also wonder what's he going to be like when his pockets continue to get fatter, he gets older and his lust for the game continues to diminish.

Marv wrote:you guys are FLAT BUGGING!!!

do you really know anything about basketball? i'm not kidding either.

this guy and his "brand" of basketball is averaging 9 ****ing assists per game on a ****-ass team!

oh and just happens to put up 30 ppg on 50% shooting!and for kicks adds in 7 boards.

did you watch the all-star game? did you see him set up wade and bosh all-day for all the baskets they wanted?

did you watch the olympics and see how he played?

have you noticed that he takes the cavs to the finals or conference finals with a woeful supporting cast?

and some of you have "problems" with his game?

LMFAO at you fools.

co-sign this. Iswear some people love shock posting on here...

iSergio wrote:It's posts like these that make me want to choke myself.

Don't let me stop you.

BasketballJones wrote:I don't like LeBron's brand of basketball either. I prefer losing basketball, Knicks-style.

LeBron also does not focus his attention on getting the coach fired the way a real basketball player should (Mike Brown has been the Cav's coach since 2005! What's that all about?!?)

is that why you changed your sig?

Would the Lakers have won if not for signing Shaq?

Would the Celtics have won if not for trading everything away for Garnett and Allen?

Would the Lakers of won without trading for Gasol?

Detriot without Rasheed?

I get the point but it's just stupid....

Lebron is Second best player this side of Kobe and Kobe has 4 rings....

Took Mike 6 years to get his first Lebron is right there on track

Only wish he gets his first of many with US!!!!

sidsanders wrote:

martin wrote:

holfresh wrote:

MS wrote:We should not sign the best player to maybe ever play the game because he likes dancing and is 24 years olds and loves life and has hundreds of millions of dollars. This guy is better than Jordan. Do you know what he would be doing if you gave him Scottie Pippen, Rodman, Tony K? It's embarrassing.

This guy would make us a 50 win team in his sleep and the second best team in the conference.

First of all he is not better than Jordan...Let me know when he is considered on of the best defensive players in the league...Give me a shout when he has 200 steals and 100 block shots in the same season for several seasons...Let me know when he 5 rings goes to play baseball and come back to clip more rings...Let me know when he faces teams the caliber of the late 80's Knicks/ 90's Knicks, beat the Lakers with Magic, Bird in Boston, Isiah and the Piston, Reggie and the Pacers. and the Cavs with Harper, Ehlo, Price, Duagherty , The Sonics with Rainman and the Glove, Portland with Clyde Drex.., Phoenix with Brakley,KJ, Utah with Mailman and Stockton...etc... beat them all...The man dominated in the greatest era of basketball...ARE U KIDDING ME!!!

Last year. He came in second in voting. At what age did Jordan come in the top 3? James did it by 24.

well, jordan won it in 87-88 (24/25), came in second the year before (23/24). finished 6th as a rook.

great. so they are about even. How far did he carry his team in the playoffs by 23?

Nalod wrote:
What I dig about lebron is I can almost imagine a situation where he can just play power forward and grab 20 rebounds if thats what we need. He is second to Kobe for being a late game go to player, and if you have Gallo and Tmac on the wings you got some nice kick out's to nail a shot.

The possibilities are endless with what he can do. He has that "Magic Johnson" capacity to play 5 positions

As far as the late game heroics, not sure if it was last year or the year before, the biggest shot of his career, game on the line with less than 5 seconds the clock, Conference Finals, Cavs down by 1 or 2 points, he passed the ball, they lost...Please don't make me look it up...

martin wrote:

holfresh wrote:

MS wrote:We should not sign the best player to maybe ever play the game because he likes dancing and is 24 years olds and loves life and has hundreds of millions of dollars. This guy is better than Jordan. Do you know what he would be doing if you gave him Scottie Pippen, Rodman, Tony K? It's embarrassing.

This guy would make us a 50 win team in his sleep and the second best team in the conference.

First of all he is not better than Jordan...Let me know when he is considered on of the best defensive players in the league...Give me a shout when he has 200 steals and 100 block shots in the same season for several seasons...Let me know when he 5 rings goes to play baseball and come back to clip more rings...Let me know when he faces teams the caliber of the late 80's Knicks/ 90's Knicks, beat the Lakers with Magic, Bird in Boston, Isiah and the Piston, Reggie and the Pacers. and the Cavs with Harper, Ehlo, Price, Duagherty , The Sonics with Rainman and the Glove, Portland with Clyde Drex.., Phoenix with Brakley,KJ, Utah with Mailman and Stockton...etc... beat them all...The man dominated in the greatest era of basketball...ARE U KIDDING ME!!!

Last year. He came in second in voting. At what age did Jordan come in the top 3? James did it by 24.

But LB plays in a no defense league wherein, Jordan played in a - I can knock the **** out of you league and not be called for a foul.

IF LB played in era of Jordan, Bird and OAKLEY, he would have been taught the meaning of consequences and repercussions because Oak or someone else would have put him on his ass.

All that barreling full tilt down the court with players able to hand & hip check you, would not be the fun experience he now enjoys.

Barkely would have given him a black eye if he was snapping pic during a blowout. Lambeer would have lambasted him.

You can't in good conscious compare todays game where you can't even make contact with the player on offense UNTIL he's reached the free throw line. That alone has significantly changed the game

holfresh wrote:Let me say this from the onset, a LeBron signing completely changes the face of this franchise for the better, pronto...That said, watching this guy a few years has left an empty feeling in my gut...Yesterday, I'm watching him play hitting off balance shots he should not be taking...The announcers going nuts saying it should count as extra points because of the degree of difficulty, I don't get it...

Basketball is a game of artistry that should be played a certain way...Magic knew that...Bird knew that...Watching Kobe and LeBron play leaves absent the wow factor that comes along with great basketball players...Jordan dominated the ball much in the same way but had that wow factor in his game...He made you want to watch him play...Watching these guys dominate the ball without the pretty no look passes, hitting the dagger three point shot, making the defensive stops, hitting the cutter to the basket, grabbing that huge rebound in crunch time leaves it all empty for me...

Personally, I don't want to spend the next five years watching LeBron jacking three point shots from close to midcourt...Adding no rhythm to the flow of the offense or no style of how to approach beating an opponent in a particular game...He passes the ball yes but is he a dedicated passer, is he willing to make that beautiful pass first than taking that difficult off balance shot...Bird was...Maybe it's my age or the feeling I got watching Bird and Magic last week during the HBO special...Today's stars just aren't playing the game the right way or as yesterday's stars showed us how to play it...Anyone or is it just me???

I hear what u saying and what u mean. Irie !
But respectively I think you got LBJ wrong. They all went through what he did. Jordan used to jack up 30 shots and get 50 or
60 points and still lose to the CELTICs and PISTONS when it counted in Nba playoffs. More good players are brought in to support
LBJ you will see his shots improved. He is far better shot selection than u give him credit for, he's suppose to take them shots
and he is the leader of that franchise. *** End of story.

Kobe's a good example when he was young he jacked up same shots and he didnt have Phil Jackson then at that time but you can
tell greatness in Kobe pending when he came in. NO I am not a Kobe fan. You see the same pending greatness in LBJ.
I Agree LBJ aint Jordan yet, not even in Kobe-category. However he's closing in and CAVs can win it this yr (Good news for NY fans)

Sure all the stars going to take bad shots, Wade takes them, however LBJ is the lone star of his team (*respectively to Shaq)
LBJ needs to be in control for CAVs to have the success and when he can make a pass he does it. Only recently LBJ got some
personnel help around him to make a serious title run. LBJ early in his career suffered same crap as NY Pat Ewing in not having
a #2 to play with OR good enough role players and keep in mind LBJ Went to NBA finals only to lose to dominant SA Spurs.

Furthermore LBJ all knows is allaround player. He passes (with assists), defends, rebounds and blocks shots and shows Point forward skills of top point guards and LBJ often takes the other teams best players when its neccessary.

Thats alot to ask and coming back to LBJ shots selections please keep in mind he had to improve his jumpshooting and show all
he can hit shots, from anywhere, 2's, 3's in clutch situations. ALL this LBJ improved on and is continuing to get better.

ALL in all ANY Team would be foolish to NOT want a LBJ on their team to build around. Its only a matter of time and with whom
he's win a NBA Title real soon with. Its foolish to think also LBJ wont ever ever win one. You win with great players and
great play. LBJ is a great player perhaps only behind Kobe (ever so slightly)

However he is terrific, a competitor all the Things u see in great players like Jordan, Kobe, Bird and Magic, Russell, Wilt & Kareem.

You like folks whom hate to lose. WE can all put up with LBJ's bad shot here or there in all good he does for team and NBA.
Those off foot shots he's making more than not.

Lets not criticize or overlook a great player whom we're lucky to watch.