djsunyc wrote:is today the greatest day in ncaa tournament history?

old heads are gunna say no, and say some stupid ass tournament in 1986 was better or whatever. Today was ridiculous. how many buzzer beaters and close games did we see? I'm worn out.

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TMS wrote:wow, what a finish to that TEX-Wake game... thought Texas was gonna pull it out in OT but Wake made a vicious comeback in the last few seconds.

wasnt texas like #1 for a bit this year...

they have fallen off a cliff

yeah, they really have... i think i heard during a game telecast this season they're the first team to ever go from being a #1 to unranked during the same season.

Finestrg wrote:

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sidsanders wrote:good gravy... marq falls... what the flip big east? nova prob shoulda lost too.

just watched it... i think i'm off Lazar Hayward's bandwagon now... dude didn't really step up in crunchtime & take charge the way a go to guy should... he's got nice range on his J out to past the NBA 3 pt line but he's not very active on the floor... he was mostly floating around on the 3 pt line & waiting for kickouts instead of demanding the ball on post ups & iso's like he should have been doing when his team needed him most.

Wake Forest vs. Texas should be interesting... Al Farouq Aminu vs. Damion James

Quincy Pondexter from Washington -- man how good a senior year has that kid had? He's come a long way during his 4 years there..Finished with 18 & 11 rebounds tonight including the game winner..If the Knicks wind up looking for a straight up 2-guard in this draft for whatever reason (for depth purposes, to play with Chandler or in place of Chandler, Giddens doesn't pan out, we can't get LeBron & elect not to overpay for Joe Johnson, etc..), I like him a lot for us. I have my doubts on whether he'll still be on the board though. If they like him, they might have to move up a little to get him..

After a slow start, Kansas woke up and took a double digit lead on Lehigh. Lehigh closed the lead at the half, now the Jayhawks are back up by 10. Guard C.J. McCollum is the highest scoring freshman in the country at almost 19 a game..

Finest, what do u think about Sherron Collins? maybe an option to target to compete with TD this summer... i think he's got the character & maturity that will appeal to MDA also... u think he might slip to us in the 2nd round? personally i still think Nic Wise is the way to go & i'm sure he'll be available to us where we pick this summer, but Collins seems to be the more lauded player on the national scale.

I love the guy bro. You hit the nail on the head - character & maturity. Outside of him being just shy of 6' (which ain't even that small - we're not talking Nate Robinson height here. Plus his strength & speed more than make up for it) what's not to like??? Somebody tell me.. Quick, can push it, can penetrate & finish, great shooter, more than capable scorer when he needs to be, quality FT shooter, very good passer, unselfish, underrated defender (was all up in Lehigh guards' faces early on when the game was still in the balance, diving on the floor for loose balls... That helped immediately turn the game around), just focused on winning--not stats--esp. this year (128 wins for his career at that program and still counting...amazing)...Kansas is my team in this Tournament -- an experienced winning PG, big productive center in Cole Aldrich (at least at the college level), quality distance shooters in X. Henry & Morningstar, the Morris Brothers are big boys that compete hard (Marcus had 26 & 10 last night), and even more depth with guys like Tyshawn Taylor, Tyrel Reed, rookie Thomas Robinson...Collins is the cog that makes it all work. Fantastic player..The Knicks are nuts if they have zero interest in him. I would love to get Collins and team him up with Toney Douglas. Consider the PG problem solved if we landed this kid. With all his accolades, I can't believe he's not regarded as a better prospect. These draft sites might have him pegged wrong, esp. if he wins it all again this year. I can't see him going in the 2nd round to be honest but if he does, no way he slips to us past 35 or so. If the Knicks like him, they better be trying to work out ways to move up into the 1st round right now. I feel you on Wise - he can play, although he had a rough year - but Collins is better.

from what i read on Collins, they say there's questions about his playmaking ability as a PG... looking at his stats, his A/TO ratio isn't that great... but then again, Wise doesn't have a great A/TO ratio either... buying a late 1st rounder to take Collins could be an option this summer... we already know Donnie's willing to pull off deals like this if there's a player he likes in the draft.

TMS wrote:

Finestrg wrote:

TMS wrote:

Finestrg wrote:

TMS wrote:

sidsanders wrote:good gravy... marq falls... what the flip big east? nova prob shoulda lost too.

just watched it... i think i'm off Lazar Hayward's bandwagon now... dude didn't really step up in crunchtime & take charge the way a go to guy should... he's got nice range on his J out to past the NBA 3 pt line but he's not very active on the floor... he was mostly floating around on the 3 pt line & waiting for kickouts instead of demanding the ball on post ups & iso's like he should have been doing when his team needed him most.

Wake Forest vs. Texas should be interesting... Al Farouq Aminu vs. Damion James

Quincy Pondexter from Washington -- man how good a senior year has that kid had? He's come a long way during his 4 years there..Finished with 18 & 11 rebounds tonight including the game winner..If the Knicks wind up looking for a straight up 2-guard in this draft for whatever reason (for depth purposes, to play with Chandler or in place of Chandler, Giddens doesn't pan out, we can't get LeBron & elect not to overpay for Joe Johnson, etc..), I like him a lot for us. I have my doubts on whether he'll still be on the board though. If they like him, they might have to move up a little to get him..

After a slow start, Kansas woke up and took a double digit lead on Lehigh. Lehigh closed the lead at the half, now the Jayhawks are back up by 10. Guard C.J. McCollum is the highest scoring freshman in the country at almost 19 a game..

Finest, what do u think about Sherron Collins? maybe an option to target to compete with TD this summer... i think he's got the character & maturity that will appeal to MDA also... u think he might slip to us in the 2nd round? personally i still think Nic Wise is the way to go & i'm sure he'll be available to us where we pick this summer, but Collins seems to be the more lauded player on the national scale.

I love the guy bro. You hit the nail on the head - character & maturity. Outside of him being just shy of 6' (which ain't even that small - we're not talking Nate Robinson height here. Plus his strength & speed more than make up for it) what's not to like??? Somebody tell me.. Quick, can push it, can penetrate & finish, great shooter, more than capable scorer when he needs to be, quality FT shooter, very good passer, unselfish, underrated defender (was all up in Lehigh guards' faces early on when the game was still in the balance, diving on the floor for loose balls... That helped immediately turn the game around), just focused on winning--not stats--esp. this year (128 wins for his career at that program and still counting...amazing)...Kansas is my team in this Tournament -- an experienced winning PG, big productive center in Cole Aldrich (at least at the college level), quality distance shooters in X. Henry & Morningstar, the Morris Brothers are big boys that compete hard (Marcus had 26 & 10 last night), and even more depth with guys like Tyshawn Taylor, Tyrel Reed, rookie Thomas Robinson...Collins is the cog that makes it all work. Fantastic player..The Knicks are nuts if they have zero interest in him. I would love to get Collins and team him up with Toney Douglas. Consider the PG problem solved if we landed this kid. With all his accolades, I can't believe he's not regarded as a better prospect. These draft sites might have him pegged wrong, esp. if he wins it all again this year. I can't see him going in the 2nd round to be honest but if he does, no way he slips to us past 35 or so. If the Knicks like him, they better be trying to work out ways to move up into the 1st round right now. I feel you on Wise - he can play, although he had a rough year - but Collins is better.

from what i read on Collins, they say there's questions about his playmaking ability as a PG... looking at his stats, his A/TO ratio isn't that great... but then again, Wise doesn't have a great A/TO ratio either... buying a late 1st rounder to take Collins could be an option this summer... we already know Donnie's willing to pull off deals like this if there's a player he likes in the draft.

Since we won't be having an impact draft for awhile and since we really need to be doing whatever we can right now to attract the big 2010 FA or two, I'd try to convince Dolan to buy TWO 1st rounders. Not one, two...#39 & cash for 1 first rounder, #40 & cash for a 2nd first rounder...Get 'er done..Dolan's raking in the cash and has been doing it all on our backs for years now -- for years NYers have still decided to shell out the big bucks to go to the games and support the team despite the sub-par product, thus lining this guys pockets in the process..And he just saved a ton of money with Cuttino Mobley. Donnie needs to convince this guy to pump some of that money back into the draft. Don't settle -- secure two 1st rounders here and go get the players you really want, instead of settling....Minnesota, Memphis, Oklahoma City, maybe Orlando, maybe Washington looks to sell that 1st rounder they just acquired from the Cavs --- there's a few teams in the lower 1st round that should be willing to deal..