EwingsGlass wrote:

nixluva wrote:

TMS wrote:there is 1 common factor to just about every NBA championship team, & that is they had several defensive minded players & they stressed team defense

Lakers - West, Kareem, Green, Cooper, Shaq, Kobe, Horry
Celtics - Russell, Havlicek, Cowens, Silas, Chaney, Bird, McHale, Johnson, Parrish, KG, Rondo, Pierce, Powe
Knicks - Reed, Frazier, DeBusschere
Rockets - Dream, Maxwell, Drexler, Horry
Pistons - Salley, Rodman, Laimbeer, Dumars, Mahorn, Big Ben, Tayshaun, Billups
Heat - Shaq, Wade, Zo, Payton, Posey, Haslem, Anderson
Bulls - Jordan, Rodman, Grant, Pippen, Harper, Brown, Kukoc, Salley, Cartwright, Williams
Spurs - Robinson, Duncan, Manu, Bowen, Horry

can't seem to come up with a list of championship teams that stressed wanton 3 point shooting & don't put a premium on playing good team defense tho... if u know of any let me know.

See that's the problem. What we're talking about here isn't a philosophy but a matter of roster composition. DW is a guy that has stressed defensive players being on his teams and I don't see him changing now. MDA is not averse to having a defensive presence as we saw in how they used Bell and Marion. They had a pretty effective team defensive concept that allowed them to win games. I see no reason to assume that we won't see this team also have some defensive approach that is similar.

We'll have a good defense when we bring in guys that can defend and want to defend and execute the defense that the coach institutes.

Well, no. We can name teams with "great" players that couldn't put it together. Look at the Payton/Malone/Bryant/Oneil Lakers. Then look at teams like the Pistons that didn't have any MVP caliber playes (though Billups is certainly making a statement these days. Teams that stress defense don't always win (BoobKittens? any Brown led team other than the Pistons?) While offensive minded teams with good defense do (Lakers, Triangle offense, Bulls, triangle offense).

If we are criticizing the SSOL system, I think its biggest flaw is that it doesn't put other teams in the penalty or put opposing players on the bench with personal fouls. Now, put a player like Wade or James or even Joe Johnson or Corey Maggette (5 years ago Maggette)-- guys who consistently draw contact and get to the line-- and I think it gets moved into the discussion with the Triangle Offense.

every championship team needs great 2-way players, i think that's pretty obvious... but i have yet to see a team win championships running SSOL... this whole system is predicated on the notion that u can simply bombard the other team with as many offensive possessions & scoring opportunities as possible over the course of the game rather than getting stops to give the other team less... i think it's a flawed system if we're talking championship style basketball... our head coach has also shown he's not very adaptable to the players he has unless they're a perfect fit to run his system... compare him to a Pat Riley who took the Lakers, Knicks & Heat to the NBA Finals & won championships with 2 of them... all of Riley's teams had tremendous defensive players (yes, i know they had great offensive players too)... i just think acquiring defensive players are pretty low on MDA's priority list... i'd prefer a coach who puts playing defense at a premium & still target great players to run that system... Lebron has stated his preference to play for a coach who places heavy emphasis on playing defense as well.