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3/2/2010  9:42 AM
So if land Joe Johnson and say, Chris Bosh, that would be considered a bust?
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3/2/2010  9:57 AM
Uptown wrote:So if land Joe Johnson and say, Chris Bosh, that would be considered a bust?

Chris Bosh isn't going to take less money to play with Joe Johnson when has an opportunity to stay or play with a more talented wing player. This guy has been the most open about his future. But yes if you settle for Joe Johnson at age 29 to take max money is a bust. There is a reason why he would be available to come to Knicks.

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3/2/2010  3:49 PM
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holfresh wrote:I'm seeing poster here talking about if we strike out in 2010 then there is always 2011...Zach, Curry and Craw would have rolled of the books in 2011 and we would have still been competitive the last two years...We would still have our draft picks...We would have been able to see how the "GREAT" MDA and his SSOL system works...We would probably be in the running for a playoff spot right now...Don't tell me its all about getting under the cap...This is such a joke, we are out swapping draft picks in 2011 to get further under the cap in 2010...We would have been under the cap a year later with all our draft picks...ONE YEAR LATER...I'm simply amazed....This board act as though Walsh is Houdini...We all know who would be available in 2011 with our draft picks...This is all about LeBron and 2010...Yes, Walsh is a STARPHUCKER too...Wake up and deal with it...

Holfresh, as usual you are the voice of reality. Getting under the cap + not building a team in the meantime in order to land 2 superstars who will be saviors = Starphuching.

Of course, even if that works out one has to hope for perfect health for those superstars because there is no team around them to pick up the slack, and a lot of other variables to fall into place in order to contend for a championship.

LeBron or bust.

But, how about a short-term Kobe? like 3 years? What do you all think about that? Room service!

oohah

I don't know Oohah, for the last year and a half we kept hearing about "the plan", "the system" and " changing the culture"...I wonder how that is working out for everyone...Ain't working for me...We had a good chance to pick up some picks and sign decent talent...It's all an illusion...

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3/2/2010  5:36 PM
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I don't know Oohah, for the last year and a half we kept hearing about "the plan", "the system" and " changing the culture"...I wonder how that is working out for everyone...Ain't working for me...We had a good chance to pick up some picks and sign decent talent...It's all an illusion...


The thing is, the Knicks could have pursued ONE MAX FREE-AGENT, A.K.A. LeBron, and built a team simultaneously! All Walsh had to do was fill the positions of need (Not draft 47 more power-forwards) and maybe not trade Randolph(Unless he got some kid of asset), and the Knicks would be sitting on a halfway respectable team.

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3/2/2010  6:49 PM
oohah wrote:
holfresh wrote:
I don't know Oohah, for the last year and a half we kept hearing about "the plan", "the system" and " changing the culture"...I wonder how that is working out for everyone...Ain't working for me...We had a good chance to pick up some picks and sign decent talent...It's all an illusion...


The thing is, the Knicks could have pursued ONE MAX FREE-AGENT, A.K.A. LeBron, and built a team simultaneously! All Walsh had to do was fill the positions of need (Not draft 47 more power-forwards) and maybe not trade Randolph(Unless he got some kid of asset), and the Knicks would be sitting on a halfway respectable team.

oohah

2010 salaries:

Zach - $17.3M
Curry - $11.3M
Fishlips - $6.9M
Gallo - $3.3M
Wilson - $2.1M
'09 #8 pick - $2.7M
'09 #29 pick - $1M
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$44.6M total for 7 roster spots

that only leaves u with ~$9 mil to fill 4 more roster spots & sign 1 Max FA... not nearly enough... even if we had made the Fishlips trade to dump the $9M off that figure, you still only have $18M to fill 7 other roster slots & 1 Max FA & u lose the #8 pick in the process... 1 max FA, Zach, Gallo, Wilson, Curry, #29 pick & 6 minimum salary scrubs is not going to get you very far in the NBA.

Zach had to be traded to have any shot at all at a max FA this summer, & Donnie accomplished that plan w/o having to give up any future assets... it was a good trade... giving up future assets to dump Fishlips is the questionable move.

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3/2/2010  6:54 PM
TMS wrote:
oohah wrote:
holfresh wrote:
I don't know Oohah, for the last year and a half we kept hearing about "the plan", "the system" and " changing the culture"...I wonder how that is working out for everyone...Ain't working for me...We had a good chance to pick up some picks and sign decent talent...It's all an illusion...


The thing is, the Knicks could have pursued ONE MAX FREE-AGENT, A.K.A. LeBron, and built a team simultaneously! All Walsh had to do was fill the positions of need (Not draft 47 more power-forwards) and maybe not trade Randolph(Unless he got some kid of asset), and the Knicks would be sitting on a halfway respectable team.

oohah

2010 salaries:

Zach - $17.3M
Curry - $11.3M
Fishlips - $6.9M
Gallo - $3.3M
Wilson - $2.1M
'09 #8 pick - $2.7M
'09 #29 pick - $1M
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$44.6M total for 7 roster spots

that only leaves u with ~$9 mil to fill 4 more roster spots & sign 1 Max FA... not nearly enough... even if we had made the Fishlips trade to dump the $9M off that figure, you still only have $18M to fill 7 other roster slots & 1 Max FA & u lose the #8 pick in the process... 1 max FA, Zach, Gallo, Wilson, Curry, #29 pick & 6 minimum salary scrubs is not going to get you very far in the NBA.

Zach had to be traded to have any shot at all at a max FA this summer, & Donnie accomplished that plan w/o having to give up any future assets... it was a good trade... giving up future assets to dump Fishlips is the questionable move.

The other option is standing pat until 2011 and development our young players...err building in the true term...

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3/2/2010  6:59 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/2/2010  7:01 PM
holfresh wrote:
TMS wrote:
oohah wrote:
holfresh wrote:
I don't know Oohah, for the last year and a half we kept hearing about "the plan", "the system" and " changing the culture"...I wonder how that is working out for everyone...Ain't working for me...We had a good chance to pick up some picks and sign decent talent...It's all an illusion...


The thing is, the Knicks could have pursued ONE MAX FREE-AGENT, A.K.A. LeBron, and built a team simultaneously! All Walsh had to do was fill the positions of need (Not draft 47 more power-forwards) and maybe not trade Randolph(Unless he got some kid of asset), and the Knicks would be sitting on a halfway respectable team.

oohah

2010 salaries:

Zach - $17.3M
Curry - $11.3M
Fishlips - $6.9M
Gallo - $3.3M
Wilson - $2.1M
'09 #8 pick - $2.7M
'09 #29 pick - $1M
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$44.6M total for 7 roster spots

that only leaves u with ~$9 mil to fill 4 more roster spots & sign 1 Max FA... not nearly enough... even if we had made the Fishlips trade to dump the $9M off that figure, you still only have $18M to fill 7 other roster slots & 1 Max FA & u lose the #8 pick in the process... 1 max FA, Zach, Gallo, Wilson, Curry, #29 pick & 6 minimum salary scrubs is not going to get you very far in the NBA.

Zach had to be traded to have any shot at all at a max FA this summer, & Donnie accomplished that plan w/o having to give up any future assets... it was a good trade... giving up future assets to dump Fishlips is the questionable move.

The other option is standing pat until 2011 and development our young players...err building in the true term...

if we stood pat we would have had Jamal still on the books too which would have put us over the cap for 2010 with only the MLE & LLE to use to improve the team, & even then you have D Lee walking for nothing unless u figure out some kind of sign & trade to get back assets for him... how much better would we be by just adding a MLE & LLE FA to the squad we had at the beginning of last season & the 2009 rooks w/o D Lee? even if we had drafted Brandon Jennings & DeJuan Blair like so many have wished we would have, would that be a championship contending team? & that's even assuming we would have had the #10 pick or better to take Brandon Jennings if we hadn't traded Zach or Jamal to begin with.

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3/2/2010  7:33 PM
TMS wrote:2010 salaries:

Zach - $17.3M
Curry - $11.3M
Fishlips - $6.9M
Gallo - $3.3M
Wilson - $2.1M
'09 #8 pick - $2.7M
'09 #29 pick - $1M
-----------
$44.6M total for 7 roster spots

that only leaves u with ~$9 mil to fill 4 more roster spots & sign 1 Max FA... not nearly enough... even if we had made the Fishlips trade to dump the $9M off that figure, you still only have $18M to fill 7 other roster slots & 1 Max FA & u lose the #8 pick in the process... 1 max FA, Zach, Gallo, Wilson, Curry, #29 pick & 6 minimum salary scrubs is not going to get you very far in the NBA.

Zach had to be traded to have any shot at all at a max FA this summer, & Donnie accomplished that plan w/o having to give up any future assets... it was a good trade... giving up future assets to dump Fishlips is the questionable move.

First I ain't no salary cap guru, but you only bolded part of what I wrote. I said don't trade Randolph unless you get some type of usable asset back! Not necessarily even an equal asset, but something better than two guys with a heart condition: Tim Thomas and Cuttino Mobley!

Second, I am pretty sure that the Knicks could have unloaded Jeffries with the number 8 before Hill was picked and then we and a max free agent at least had some future picks to look forward to build with.

3rd the Knicks completely mishandled the contract of Lee and Robinson last season. I don't pretend know all of the trades that were available but I do know that both Lee and Robinson had value in 08/09 that could have been used for some kind of asset -- like a draft pick and an expiring to a team in need of their particular talent.

Fourth, If the Knicks hadn't flubbed the last 2 drafts then trading future draft picks in order to unload Jeffries' contract would not sting so much because their would be some young talent in the fold.

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Their are savvy moves and desperate moves, the Knicks have made desperate moves.

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3/2/2010  7:59 PM
First I ain't no salary cap guru, but you only bolded part of what I wrote. I said don't trade Randolph unless you get some type of usable asset back! Not necessarily even an equal asset, but something better than two guys with a heart condition: Tim Thomas and Cuttino Mobley!

Second, I am pretty sure that the Knicks could have unloaded Jeffries with the number 8 before Hill was picked and then we and a max free agent at least had some future picks to look forward to build with.

3rd the Knicks completely mishandled the contract of Lee and Robinson last season. I don't pretend know all of the trades that were available but I do know that both Lee and Robinson had value in 08/09 that could have been used for some kind of asset -- like a draft pick and an expiring to a team in need of their particular talent.

Fourth, If the Knicks hadn't flubbed the last 2 drafts then trading future draft picks in order to unload Jeffries' contract would not sting so much because their would be some young talent in the fold.

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Their are savvy moves and desperate moves, the Knicks have made desperate moves.

oohah

i'm just explaining the situation to you if we had not traded Zach... i think it's fair to assume there were no better offers out there to take on $33 million worth of Zach's contract when the Clips just traded him to the Grizzlies for Q Rich's expiring... at least we saved money on the Mobley contract being paid by insurance... Zach was not taking this team anywhere... what i think u might have an argument is if you had suggested we trade D Lee & gotten back a lottery pick, which is something i'd been calling for since before last season... if we had done that, then keeping Zach may have made more sense & we wouldn't have had to draft Jordan Hill... that is of course, assuming Zach & MDA wouldn't have gotten into any personality conflict over the past 2 years.

i agree w/u that we could have unloaded Fishlips using the #8 before Hill was picked & not have had to go all in on the panic move this year, but at the time i wouldn't have advocated that either... i think a #8 lottery pick is still too much to pay just to dump a $7 million dollar contract... i would have been fine w/trading down a few slots in the draft, but not much more... i think Donnie way overpaid to pull off this T-Mac trade as i've said many times & would have felt the same way had he done what u just suggested.

& i also agree that they completely mishandled the Lee & Nate situations... remember i was railing on the fact that we should be looking to trade both those guys even before last season because i didn't want to lose them for nothing in return... right now the Nate trade isn't looking quite as bad as it did a few days ago because Bill Walker at least is showing he might be a player worth holding onto, but i definitely would have preferred to have a 1st round pick in this draft instead... who knows what will happen with D Lee tho... if we use him in a sign & trade to acquire a bigname this summer, i'd be fine with that, but i have a feeling he'll be re-signed.

& i think it's become obvious that we flubbed the draft last year when we could have had guys like Jennings, Collison & Blair, but what can u do? i'm not happy about it any more than you are but this franchise is clearly not interested in building a team through the draft... they've shown you every year that if a bigname comes along that can be had, they're going to give up assets to go after them.

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3/2/2010  11:30 PM
http://www.northjersey.com/sports/pro_sports/basketball/knicks/85932157_It_s_LeBron_or_else_for_the_Knicks.html


Adamek: It’s LeBron James or else for the Knicks
Tuesday, March 2, 2010
BY STEVE ADAMEK
The Record
STAFF WRITER

What if LeBron doesn’t sign with the Knicks this summer?

Or Dwyane Wade? Or Chris Bosh?

What if Donnie Walsh has to choose from Joe Johnson, Amar’e Stoudemire, Rudy Gay (a restricted free agent) and the Summer of 2010’s "leftovers"?

Should he go all in then? Would his 2010 cap-clearing strategy be a failure if he doesn’t sign one (if not two) of the "big fish?"

Or should he save some coin until 2011, when Carmelo Anthony heads a less-deep free agent class?

We know what most fans think: LeBron James had better be wearing No. 23 in white when the Knicks open next season at the Garden. They didn’t deal with two seasons of misery — a whole decade of it, actually — for Joe Johnson and Rudy Gay.

They expect Wade or Bosh, too — both of them if LBJ stays in Cleveland, where it doesn’t take long for a cab driver to express his fears when he discovers his passenger flew in from New York.

He also probably wouldn’t like what one longtime NBA executive said recently, about how he’s "heard" LeBron to New York is a done deal.

Other execs say otherwise.

But if he and the others stay put (or go elsewhere), then what?

Both Walsh and Ernie Grunfeld, the former Knicks’ executive who now has cap space for one big-ticket free agent in Washington, both say there’s no reason to spend just for the sake of spending.

"Just because you have cap room doesn’t mean you have to go out and use it all," Grunfeld said.

"I’m not going to limit it to just this year," Walsh said.

But Walsh also said something that drives the Oliver Stones of Cleveland crazy thinking there’s already a tacit agreement between Walsh and LeBron (plus his chosen sidekick):

"I don’t think [it’s] a big risk if we get the players I think we can get."

Still, for the record, he’ll also have more cap room in 2011 — right before an anticipated lockout — when Eddy Curry comes off, even if Curry takes a buyout after this season.

Knicks’ fans, of course, don’t want to hear about no stinkin’ 2011.

For them, if LeBron, D-Wade or Bosh don’t come, there is no Plan B.

What if LeBron doesn’t sign with the Knicks this summer?

Or Dwyane Wade? Or Chris Bosh?

What if Donnie Walsh has to choose from Joe Johnson, Amar’e Stoudemire, Rudy Gay (a restricted free agent) and the Summer of 2010’s "leftovers"?

Should he go all in then? Would his 2010 cap-clearing strategy be a failure if he doesn’t sign one (if not two) of the "big fish?"

Or should he save some coin until 2011, when Carmelo Anthony heads a less-deep free agent class?

We know what most fans think: LeBron James had better be wearing No. 23 in white when the Knicks open next season at the Garden. They didn’t deal with two seasons of misery — a whole decade of it, actually — for Joe Johnson and Rudy Gay.

They expect Wade or Bosh, too — both of them if LBJ stays in Cleveland, where it doesn’t take long for a cab driver to express his fears when he discovers his passenger flew in from New York.

He also probably wouldn’t like what one longtime NBA executive said recently, about how he’s "heard" LeBron to New York is a done deal.

Other execs say otherwise.

But if he and the others stay put (or go elsewhere), then what?

Both Walsh and Ernie Grunfeld, the former Knicks’ executive who now has cap space for one big-ticket free agent in Washington, both say there’s no reason to spend just for the sake of spending.

"Just because you have cap room doesn’t mean you have to go out and use it all," Grunfeld said.

"I’m not going to limit it to just this year," Walsh said.

But Walsh also said something that drives the Oliver Stones of Cleveland crazy thinking there’s already a tacit agreement between Walsh and LeBron (plus his chosen sidekick):

"I don’t think [it’s] a big risk if we get the players I think we can get."

Still, for the record, he’ll also have more cap room in 2011 — right before an anticipated lockout — when Eddy Curry comes off, even if Curry takes a buyout after this season.

Knicks’ fans, of course, don’t want to hear about no stinkin’ 2011.

For them, if LeBron, D-Wade or Bosh don’t come, there is no Plan B.

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3/3/2010  12:47 AM
Look, the whole idea of the 2 max thing this summer could go either way. What if, taking into account LeBron's comment for defense, basically tell LEBron if he signs that we'll sign any available role player free agent on the market that he wants? He could choose the guys around him and make sure they're team-oriented, defensive players. I don't want LeBron being our GM but if that's what it takes then let him do what he wants to do.

Maybe LeBron would rather play with a better collection of teammates than just 1 other star and a bunch of mediocre guys.

I'm not sure if it'll be enough to get LeBron but it's another possibility.

Also, the above article basically sums it up. I thought about Joe Johnson and Amare on this team and while that's all fine and dandy, it's just not enough to win a title. Johnson and Amare aren't spring chickens and Amare has an injury history. I also don't want Gay or Boozer. I want a team that's going to contend for a title. If we don't sign the big 3, **** it. Go with whatever you have, try to make a move for a guy like Chris Paul if he's available by offering Curry, Gallo and whatever else, and then just wait for 2011. Am I saying that I'm going to pull a nixluva and be all cheery about waiting another year for more letdowns? No. But I'd rather do that and lose (even with the possibility of losing a lottery pick) then waste the next 5 to 6 years of our franchise on guys like Johnson and Rudy Gay and wallowing in more mediocrity.

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3/3/2010  4:47 AM
Pharzeone wrote:
Uptown wrote:So if land Joe Johnson and say, Chris Bosh, that would be considered a bust?

Chris Bosh isn't going to take less money to play with Joe Johnson when has an opportunity to stay or play with a more talented wing player. This guy has been the most open about his future. But yes if you settle for Joe Johnson at age 29 to take max money is a bust. There is a reason why he would be available to come to Knicks.

If we just signed Bosh, we would be better off resigning McGrady for 7-8 mil for 1 season rather than signing Johnson.

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3/3/2010  6:22 AM
Knicks forward Al Harrington doesn't see it happening, and he's not in the minority.

With each passing day, as the Knicks disgrace themselves and the Cavaliers march to their potential first NBA championship, the Knicks' chances of free-agent glory in landing LeBron James this summer gets more remote.

James makes one final trip to the area tonight, facing the Nets at the Meadowlands.

"A lot of teams would love to have him and the Knicks are one of them," Harrington told The Post in the visiting locker room at Quicken Loans Arena Monday night.

"But if he's as loyal as he says, I would think it's very hard for him to leave, especially because he's home.

"If it was a different city, maybe not as much a connection, but at the end of the day, he generates every single thing for this whole state. It would be tough for him to make that decision to leave."

The buzz of the Tracy McGrady cap-clearing trades has vanished, and evidence is building, not in what James says, but in what he doesn't say.

After Monday's Knick embarrassment against the Cavaliers, when they fell behind by 49 points, James found it inappropriate to address a question regarding the Knicks' new cap situation, in which he could bring along a star companion such as Chris Bosh.

James clung to his mid-November policy of not talking about his free-agent options, but he has left enough hints to New York fans that the Knicks' bid is a longshot.

In his lone appearance at the Garden, Nov. 6, James said in strong terms the only factor is whether he can win at his new destination. At All-Star weekend, he reiterated, "It's all about winning."

And Monday night, when asked if he could join a team that doesn't care about defense, James said he's never played on any basketball team in his career where defense wasn't considered the No. 1 priority.

Defense is not considered No. 1 in Mike D'Antoni's speedball universe.

Even James' buddies -- and Nike -- are in the dark on his intentions.

McGrady, who considers James a friend, said Monday, "I don't know what that kid is thinking. His own circle doesn't know."

Knicks president Donnie Walsh has touted the Knicks' cap space to divert the pain of two pathetic seasons. Yet he has tried to lower LeBron expectations.

When asked about James recently, Walsh said on WFAN, "It's very difficult to get a guy to come out of his hometown if he's had success there."

Team sources indicated D'Antoni would be very pleased to add overshadowed free agent Joe Johnson as a fallback. D'Antoni thinks Johnson is a great piece to build around.

But Johnson, the potential re-signing of David Lee and another mid-level free agent, does not put the Knicks in position to compete for a championship.

Let's go Knicks. That's amare
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3/3/2010  7:52 AM
Team sources indicated D'Antoni would be very pleased to add overshadowed free agent Joe Johnson as a fallback. D'Antoni thinks Johnson is a great piece to build around.

But Johnson, the potential re-signing of David Lee and another mid-level free agent, does not put the Knicks in position to compete for a championship.

Huge drop off from LeBron James to Joe Johnson. Hard to get excited over that. I mean seriously, would any of you buy tickets to games or buy a Johnson jersey? I wouldn't.

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3/3/2010  7:54 AM
TheGame wrote:
Pharzeone wrote:
Uptown wrote:So if land Joe Johnson and say, Chris Bosh, that would be considered a bust?

Chris Bosh isn't going to take less money to play with Joe Johnson when has an opportunity to stay or play with a more talented wing player. This guy has been the most open about his future. But yes if you settle for Joe Johnson at age 29 to take max money is a bust. There is a reason why he would be available to come to Knicks.

If we just signed Bosh, we would be better off resigning McGrady for 7-8 mil for 1 season rather than signing Johnson.

Either Tracy McGrady signs for the minimum or he take his one leg to another team.

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3/3/2010  9:53 AM
iSergio wrote:
Team sources indicated D'Antoni would be very pleased to add overshadowed free agent Joe Johnson as a fallback. D'Antoni thinks Johnson is a great piece to build around.

But Johnson, the potential re-signing of David Lee and another mid-level free agent, does not put the Knicks in position to compete for a championship.

Huge drop off from LeBron James to Joe Johnson. Hard to get excited over that. I mean seriously, would any of you buy tickets to games or buy a Johnson jersey? I wouldn't.

MDA would try to pawn Joe Johnson off on us like a legit signing...Looks like he's trying to get his boys back from PHX...Can't wait to see him woo Shawn Marion...

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3/3/2010  11:19 AM
I'll be sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo disappointed in Joe Johnson. He has a terrible personality to be a key player here in New York. A few bad games and the media and fans will eat him alive. I don't think he can handle it and he's not even THAT good. If he were 25 or 26, I'd take a chance on him but he's going to be 29. This would be a SUICIDE signing.
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3/3/2010  12:07 PM
djsunyc wrote:if the knicks don't get lebron, you will know for sure that the best don't want to play here. i don't know if the fanbase can recover.

We can. Our egos will take a hit, but we'll come back stronger, determined to prove that we're good enough, we're smart enough, and, doggone it, people like us!

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holfresh wrote:
iSergio wrote:
Team sources indicated D'Antoni would be very pleased to add overshadowed free agent Joe Johnson as a fallback. D'Antoni thinks Johnson is a great piece to build around.

But Johnson, the potential re-signing of David Lee and another mid-level free agent, does not put the Knicks in position to compete for a championship.

Huge drop off from LeBron James to Joe Johnson. Hard to get excited over that. I mean seriously, would any of you buy tickets to games or buy a Johnson jersey? I wouldn't.

MDA would try to pawn Joe Johnson off on us like a legit signing...Looks like he's trying to get his boys back from PHX...Can't wait to see him woo Shawn Marion...

unloading 3 potential lottery picks to get Joe Johnson (& they WILL be lottery picks if all we do is add Joe Johnson & re-sign D Lee this summer) will be a disaster of Isiah/Layden proportions.

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3/3/2010  6:10 PM
I really, really, really hope Donnie does not listen to ****in D'antoni when it comes to free agent signings. Sign the BPA and **** what D'Antoni thinks. If he can't coach good-great players without requiring them to fit his system then he should be fired.
"Our attitude toward life determines life's attitude towards us." - Earl Nightingale
Let's all not kid ourselves...It's LeBron or bust....

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