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2/27/2010  11:47 AM
King1 wrote:Amen I agree with everything your saying. Now if we get Lebron we trade Wilson and put Gallo in the corner and he can shoot threes. For the 6th pick in the draft I think we got a good three point shooter. This guy isnt Dirk by any stretch of the imagination.

I think that the coach and Gallinari have to put themselves into position to succeed. That means playing in the mid range and post instead of sitting 30 feet from the basket.
I started to see a little bit of that last night--he wasnt willing to settle on every possession for a 3 and took only 1. Without making excuses for poor play--as in he's a rookie[well hes been playing professional ball for 5 years] or he's being frozen out---get him into the mid range game.
When you say Dirk--remember Dirk RARELY takes 3's--it's a very small part of his game. And Gallinari needs to take note of that. I know MDA has a fetish for 3's but in the best interests of the team and Gallo--I would like to see more of what he did last night--like to see 2-3 14 footers with a couple of post ups besides taking it to the basket. I want to see progress in the next 25 from Gallinari--I dont want to see 6 out of 10 threes and I want 48% shooting or better. And if he is sitting 30 feet from the basket--than put his arse on the bench.

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2/27/2010  12:42 PM
King1 wrote:Amen I agree with everything your saying. Now if we get Lebron we trade Wilson and put Gallo in the corner and he can shoot threes. For the 6th pick in the draft I think we got a good three point shooter. This guy isn't Dirk by any stretch of the imagination.

King people have misunderstood the exact comment Iv'e have shared about Gallup. A sixth overall pick just to stand in the corner isn't that productive. You can get someone taken later or a journey men 3 pt specialist who can be used in the capacity.

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2/27/2010  1:34 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/27/2010  1:35 PM
King1 wrote:Amen I agree with everything your saying. Now if we get Lebron we trade Wilson and put Gallo in the corner and he can shoot threes. For the 6th pick in the draft I think we got a good three point shooter. This guy isnt Dirk by any stretch of the imagination.

Why would anyone trade Wilson..He is further along in his development than Lee was at this stage of his career...And he is cheap...How long did it take Lee, 5 years to finally show up???

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2/27/2010  2:24 PM
holfresh wrote:
King1 wrote:Amen I agree with everything your saying. Now if we get Lebron we trade Wilson and put Gallo in the corner and he can shoot threes. For the 6th pick in the draft I think we got a good three point shooter. This guy isnt Dirk by any stretch of the imagination.

Why would anyone trade Wilson..He is further along in his development than Lee was at this stage of his career...And he is cheap...How long did it take Lee, 5 years to finally show up???

Something that seems to be lost on a lot of people. Lee is close to 30 while Chandler is close to 20. Funny how king likes to compare the two. I asked someone to explain why it took Lee so long to average 16 points if he is so great. It took him 5 years in the NBA to develop a consistent jumper after 4 years in college and yet his defense has regressed significantly every year. That NBA2K move that Blatche put on him last night was ridiculous.

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2/27/2010  3:36 PM
All your talking abt is points. Lee is a top 5 rebounder in this league and top 5 in fg percentage please tell me what wilson will be top 20 in before his career is over. If you get lebron wilson is redundant and you don't need him. He doesn't do anything else he can't rebound or pass that is what I am saying. Don't say he can guard because no one this team can
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2/27/2010  4:19 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/27/2010  4:20 PM
Gallo is basically in his rookie year on a team that is in massive flux. His lack of aggression may relate to timidity, but it also must come from the radical changes on the team. Adding a guy like TMac mixes things up quite a bit. Gallo will be fine. And I disagree about his potential: I think he could most definitely become as good or better than Dirk. Similar size, similar games. For me, Gallo is untouchable. I am glad MDA is lighting a fire under his arse. It will help him and it will solidfy their relationship.

That said, I love Chandler, too. He is a defensive stopper, and a finisher. But he is not exactly a "complete" player. I would like to see him develop better court vision, get a few assists, and develop a reliable pull up jumper. Don't need him chucking three's, but a higher percentage behind the FT line would be nice. Like to have him draw more fouls and get fewer charges. I would certainly try to keep him, but he is the best trading asset if we find an upgrade (e.g., Rubio) or get lucky with a 2/3 in the draft.

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2/27/2010  4:33 PM
King1 wrote:All your talking abt is points. Lee is a top 5 rebounder in this league and top 5 in fg percentage please tell me what wilson will be top 20 in before his career is over. If you get lebron wilson is redundant and you don't need him. He doesn't do anything else he can't rebound or pass that is what I am saying. Don't say he can guard because no one this team can

This is what I'm saying Lee rebounds are vastly overrated because he doesn't defend. Meaning while other guys are trying to defend he is anticipating the path of the rebound. He is focusing on getting the rebound while the action is still going on. Troy Murphy pulls the same stunt on the Pacers but I don't see anyone going nuts about his rebounds. He guards his man and Lee's man better than Lee. How many times do the Knicks require to switch and rotate to help out Lee. And it isn't just the top level guys anymore. That's the thing. He is now making every post player look like next coming of Wilt. Lee can grab 24 rebounds a game and I would see through it. Points wise he is averaging about 20 points in his fifth year. That's ok on a bad team when you are the main option. Like C-Webb said on that team his average should be higher. Up until Duhon was replace, he was first option and as Duhon was concern the only option really. But hey have fun the guy is having a great year and the Knicks still suck.

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2/27/2010  4:51 PM
King1 wrote:please tell me what wilson will be top 20 in before his career is over.

Switching to cover Lee's man?

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2/27/2010  5:52 PM
Lee is the only player in the NBA that is capable of improving guys... it doesn't matter that he was still playing college ball at the same age while Wilson & Gallo were both having some impressive games at the NBA level, it only matters what kind of player he is now compared to those 2 who are both several years younger with a ton less NBA experience... stop trying to fight it, Lee is clearly better than either of them & there's no way either of these young kids will ever improve on their games to change that.
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2/27/2010  7:06 PM
What has Chandler improved and this is his third year in the league? Passing sucks, 3 point shooting not good, I havent seen him improve his game. Chandler is playing the four now out of position just like Lee and last night what did he get 3 rebounds in 47 minutes. Chandler had a chance to win the game in regulation and he didnt. When in his career so far has Wilson made a big shot? Lee get 20 a game and he is the focal point to stop they took the pick and roll away and he figured other ways to score. Wilson is inconsistent and please tell me where is he a great defensive player. Tonight he will guard Z-BO and Gallnari the other defensive stopper will guard Gay or Mayo lets see how that works out.
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2/27/2010  7:09 PM
Lee was the 30th pick and Gallo wqas a lottery pick. Lets see if Gallo lives up to a number one option, and a guy who isnt a one trick pony. I think the guy can shoot and has no toughness that is my opinion only time will tell.
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2/27/2010  7:55 PM
King1 wrote:Lee was the 30th pick and Gallo wqas a lottery pick. Lets see if Gallo lives up to a number one option, and a guy who isnt a one trick pony. I think the guy can shoot and has no toughness that is my opinion only time will tell.

I don't really sense that you are actually a fan of this team. Hard to believe that you have such a heavy chip on your shoulder because of Lee's situation on the Knicks.

Every guy on our team has his own limitations as a player, but some of our players have simply not had the time to fully reach their potential yet, so it is hard to make final judgements on them.

I would like Lee to remain on the team next year. Not at $12-16 M, but at an amount which allows us to sign at least one big FA.

If he chooses to leave for more $$ than we can afford, I will miss him. I also expect that you won't be posting around here if he is gone unless it is to tout something Lee is doing on his new team.

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2/27/2010  7:58 PM
markvmc wrote:
King1 wrote:please tell me what wilson will be top 20 in before his career is over.

Switching to cover Lee's man?

What's Gallo going to be top 20 in? 3pt attempts and most time standing around?

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2/27/2010  8:41 PM
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King1 wrote:Lee was the 30th pick and Gallo wqas a lottery pick. Lets see if Gallo lives up to a number one option, and a guy who isnt a one trick pony. I think the guy can shoot and has no toughness that is my opinion only time will tell.

I don't really sense that you are actually a fan of this team. Hard to believe that you have such a heavy chip on your shoulder because of Lee's situation on the Knicks.

Every guy on our team has his own limitations as a player, but some of our players have simply not had the time to fully reach their potential yet, so it is hard to make final judgements on them.

I would like Lee to remain on the team next year. Not at $12-16 M, but at an amount which allows us to sign at least one big FA.

If he chooses to leave for more $$ than we can afford, I will miss him. I also expect that you won't be posting around here if he is gone unless it is to tout something Lee is doing on his new team.

I could be wrong but I think king coached Lee at some point.

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2/27/2010  9:38 PM
King1 wrote:What has Chandler improved and this is his third year in the league? Passing sucks, 3 point shooting not good, I havent seen him improve his game. Chandler is playing the four now out of position just like Lee and last night what did he get 3 rebounds in 47 minutes. Chandler had a chance to win the game in regulation and he didnt. When in his career so far has Wilson made a big shot? Lee get 20 a game and he is the focal point to stop they took the pick and roll away and he figured other ways to score. Wilson is inconsistent and please tell me where is he a great defensive player. Tonight he will guard Z-BO and Gallnari the other defensive stopper will guard Gay or Mayo lets see how that works out.

u bring up rebounding superiority w/D Lee as if that's some sort of a fair gauge comparison... do so it's fair i guess to note that Wilson is MUCH better off the dribble & creating his own shots than Lee is, he's much more athletic, much quicker in the open floor, much better 3 point shooter, much better defender, much better shotblocker, & much younger as well... but since Lee is the only player that can improve on his game all our other young players are worthless... there's a non biased opinion for u.

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2/27/2010  9:40 PM
King1 wrote:Lee was the 30th pick and Gallo wqas a lottery pick. Lets see if Gallo lives up to a number one option, and a guy who isnt a one trick pony. I think the guy can shoot and has no toughness that is my opinion only time will tell.

Gallo needs work on his game just like Lee did when he broke into the NBA... u speak of Lee as if he was a finished product coming out of Florida when it took him several years to develop into the player he is now & you're casting aspersions on the type of player Gallo will be based off 1 full healthy season in the NBA... meanwhile u've been preaching patience on D Lee ever since he put on the orange & blue... seriously dude, i know u have a personal interest in D Lee but at least pretend like ur trying to be objective here.

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2/27/2010  10:31 PM
D Lee played Center his 4 yrs at Florida, I f the knicks had a center we would see what advantages Lee would have on guys who plays PF. Gallup was a lottery pick who played pro ball for 4-5 yrs already. I'm still waiting to see if he was worth the pick, right now I just don't see it. He should have been picked in the teens a few yrs back.
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