jusnice wrote:Landesburgh anin't comin out fellas. he's a soph and will stay at least one more year.

You're probably right jus. But then again, if he wants to start making the big bucks right away - who knows what his money & family situations are like. Maybe he comes to realize that it might behoove he and his family to test the draft waters this summer w/o hiring an agent, this way he can always withdraw and go back to school. If he did that, that's where the Knicks should come in right away and convey interest if they ever intended to snag a 1st rounder like they did last summer (which you know they won't because our whole scouting department always seems to be asleep at the wheel ). That's our only chance at him - I don't think we'll be able to sniff this guy the following summer unless somehow nothing went right, we really sucked and that top-5 protection kicked in... God forbid. The cat will be out of the bag by then - everyone will know about this kid by the summer of 2011...

Landesberg's a very good scorer right now and I think he'll only continue to improve his overall game. I think he's gonna be a good one.

Pharzeone wrote:

Finestrg wrote:Just a little further on Hayward -- I just watched a replay of Marquette/St John's from 2/24 on ESPN 360 -- I mentioned Dan Majerle earlier as a comparison but I think a more accurate comparison for Lazar Hayward would be a younger Quentin Richardson. Very similar games -- they can both shoot the 3 with neither guy really possessing that pure stroke (both are more volume-type shooters), they're both very good rebounders for that position and they both have pretty effective post-up games when they look to go that route (like Q at DePaul, Hayward operates as a forward a lot on the inside). Both around the same size, they're wings with slightly above average athleticism but good strength. Q may have been the better defender when he was younger and fully healthy, but Hayward's not terrible by any means..I think this guy's more Q-Rich than Majerle...

Yeah I wasn't really impress with him in that SJU game at all. Early Q-Rich is a good comparison for him too.

Jamine Petersen is three times the player.

BRIGGS wrote:

Pharzeone wrote:

Finestrg wrote:Just a little further on Hayward -- I just watched a replay of Marquette/St John's from 2/24 on ESPN 360 -- I mentioned Dan Majerle earlier as a comparison but I think a more accurate comparison for Lazar Hayward would be a younger Quentin Richardson. Very similar games -- they can both shoot the 3 with neither guy really possessing that pure stroke (both are more volume-type shooters), they're both very good rebounders for that position and they both have pretty effective post-up games when they look to go that route (like Q at DePaul, Hayward operates as a forward a lot on the inside). Both around the same size, they're wings with slightly above average athleticism but good strength. Q may have been the better defender when he was younger and fully healthy, but Hayward's not terrible by any means..I think this guy's more Q-Rich than Majerle...

Yeah I wasn't really impress with him in that SJU game at all. Early Q-Rich is a good comparison for him too.

Jamine Petersen is three times the player.

Anyone see my man put up 38-16 tonight? What a game that was. Think people are going to get a clue on this kid?

BRIGGS wrote:Freddette 45-6-5 tonight
Petersen last game 38-16-4

freddette killed it tonight briggs - absolutely just was the best player on the floor by far. first time i actually got to see him and boy did i come away impressed. i know you've been talking him up for a while and he looks like he's going to be one of your gems. excellent looking player, his ability to drill any shot and quickness with the ball on the floor just gives him exceptional offensive ability. EXTREMELY impressed with this kid, he'd make a perfect PG for this team.

JohnWallace44 wrote:Hope we get Brackins just so all the Gallo fans can see what a skilled 6'10" forward should really look like.

BRIGGS wrote:Varando just solidified his stature into the first round over his last several game. He reminds me a lot of Theo Ratliff but I think he might have more offensive game. Theo had a similar build--around 225 but a strong 225 like Varando. He really improved this year and he showed that he could play big with the big boys. I see him going 18-26ish

Stiff back?

Paladin55 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Varando just solidified his stature into the first round over his last several game. He reminds me a lot of Theo Ratliff but I think he might have more offensive game. Theo had a similar build--around 225 but a strong 225 like Varando. He really improved this year and he showed that he could play big with the big boys. I see him going 18-26ish

Not trying to start a fight. I only got to see the last 5/6 minutes and much of the overtime. I though he looked stiff at times, Briggs, and on D all I saw was a guy who hunches his back, plants himself down low, and just waits to block shots. Also saw some poor (or none) boxing out at times.

There were moments at the end of regulation where he really needed to come up big as a rebounder or defender, but he seemed to get lost in the crowd, IMO, and did not assert himself enough.

He obviously has a special ability in terms of blocking shots, and I have to say that I have not seen enough of him (didn't see most of today's game) to make a real judgement about his value as a pro, but from what I saw he seems like a reach as a mid-round 1st, and seems more likely to be an early second or end of the round 1st at best.

A good guy to pick up if your team has multiple picks, but not someone to plan your draft around, IMO.

I wouldn't plan a draft around a player like this but I do think he has played well enough to get himself inside the first round. The only thing playing against him is this is a big man's draft--both PF and C. So it will be the beauty in the eye of the beholder. I do think that avg 5 blocks per for the last 3 years--the increase in rebounding % and overall PER with his athleticism and wingspan in a very solid Div will separate him in the later part of round 1 despite some rough edges. He produces blocked shots#2 and was #9 nationally in rebounding % He is an athletic shot blocking C and many teams are usually looking to have 1 on their roster.