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holfresh
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2/19/2010  5:57 PM
sebstar wrote:Off top. He reminds me of Carlos Arroyo...

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2/19/2010  6:41 PM
EnySpree wrote:Guys have come in the league and take it by storm for you guys to appreciate a talent. I'm hoping Sergio can prove he can play this game and become our pg.

i hope for the same but i think the point i made was the complete opposite... you were completely down on Jordan Hill after 24 games yet have high expectations for S Rod after 4 years of being a backup... i guess that's the only thing i found a little curious... trust me nothing would make me happier than for S Rod to become a nice PG for us & be a longterm solution... at least then it would justify losing 1 of those picks we just gave up in all this.

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2/19/2010  8:53 PM
TMS wrote:
EnySpree wrote:Guys have come in the league and take it by storm for you guys to appreciate a talent. I'm hoping Sergio can prove he can play this game and become our pg.

i hope for the same but i think the point i made was the complete opposite... you were completely down on Jordan Hill after 24 games yet have high expectations for S Rod after 4 years of being a backup... i guess that's the only thing i found a little curious... trust me nothing would make me happier than for S Rod to become a nice PG for us & be a longterm solution... at least then it would justify losing 1 of those picks we just gave up in all this.

That is the only way those picks are justified is if Sergio becomes a solid PG AND we are able to resign him. That is the thing. The dude might blow up, but we still cannot sign him because we would have no cap room. We probably would have to trade Douglas for a draft pick and hope we can clear another $2 mill to resign Sergio (not to mention T-Mac, who would have to take vet minimum).

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2/19/2010  8:58 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/19/2010  9:00 PM
<blockquote enyspree> In NYC, he has only Duhon to worry about. Tony Douglas has already been marked "not a point guard by D'antoni</blockquote> (note to admin-can't seem to fix)

Hmmm....I remember he said he couldn't shoot too. But then he must think Duhon is a point guard ...so that doesn't say much for his judgement does it?

I'm sure Toney will learn from Sergio as well and TD is definitely more suited to an uptempo game.

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2/19/2010  9:05 PM
TheGame wrote:
TMS wrote:
EnySpree wrote:Guys have come in the league and take it by storm for you guys to appreciate a talent. I'm hoping Sergio can prove he can play this game and become our pg.

i hope for the same but i think the point i made was the complete opposite... you were completely down on Jordan Hill after 24 games yet have high expectations for S Rod after 4 years of being a backup... i guess that's the only thing i found a little curious... trust me nothing would make me happier than for S Rod to become a nice PG for us & be a longterm solution... at least then it would justify losing 1 of those picks we just gave up in all this.

That is the only way those picks are justified is if Sergio becomes a solid PG AND we are able to resign him. That is the thing. The dude might blow up, but we still cannot sign him because we would have no cap room. We probably would have to trade Douglas for a draft pick and hope we can clear another $2 mill to resign Sergio (not to mention T-Mac, who would have to take vet minimum).

great, so we end up trading away yet another 1st round pick to try & make sense of this deal... LOL!

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2/19/2010  9:59 PM
We have no way of knowing just how Sergio will work out, but I can see that he already has more natural PG skills than TD. He's not blazing, but he's not slow. He uses change of speed and direction very well. It seems to me that he moves very well with the ball and not all guards can do that. Nash is a master of playing at a consistently fast pace, not blazing just faster than defenders are comfortable with for prolonged periods. They play fast and keep moving, so it makes it hard for defenders. When I guy does like Duhon and becomes stationary in addition to not being quick the defense has the advantage. When you play with speed it doesn't matter if your really quick, cuz the defense is always on it's heels, moving and trying to adjust to what you're doing. That seems to be how Sergio plays. We'll see tho. I like constant motion PG's.
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2/19/2010  10:15 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/19/2010  10:16 PM
if he can get to the hole & make a layup & knock down the open J without getting into any fights w/the head coach, i'll be content.
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2/19/2010  10:54 PM
This guy needs to start and play 30+ mins a game. Gotta see what we have in him. The plan could very well be to sign one max guy and then split the rest of the space between Lee and some filler players like Sergio etc.
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2/20/2010  12:06 AM
TMS wrote:
EnySpree wrote:Guys have come in the league and take it by storm for you guys to appreciate a talent. I'm hoping Sergio can prove he can play this game and become our pg.

i hope for the same but i think the point i made was the complete opposite... you were completely down on Jordan Hill after 24 games yet have high expectations for S Rod after 4 years of being a backup... i guess that's the only thing i found a little curious... trust me nothing would make me happier than for S Rod to become a nice PG for us & be a longterm solution... at least then it would justify losing 1 of those picks we just gave up in all this.

Nah man I was a Jordan Hill fan from jump...I thought Jordan hill should have been starting at center...

I explained the whole reason the dude was a 4 year back-up. I been calling for someone to "FREE SERGIO" for years on this board.

Trust me on this one guys...the dude can play...I don't even know why its even in question with the two clips I posted. I mean damn see with your own eyes. It doesn't matter if the guy was burried on a teams bench. This league is about opportunity. Right now Sergio has the opportunity to display his skills in an offense built for what he can do.

I'm reading what most of the board is saying and it annoys the hell out of me...why do players have to prove themselves on another team first before anyone can respect them??? Sergio has proven he can play as obvious by these clips....he's just had the misfortune of playing for teams with talent ahead of him.

I can't see why anyone just can't sit back and be excited for a incoming player for once....why can't Sergio come in and play his game and be successfull? why because everyone has a hard on for a superstar player??? I'm crazy annoyed, but i gotta simmer down now cuz it really isn't that serious...but I must admitt I am getting madder than Kam77 going at a crackhead in a riverside park basketball court.

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2/20/2010  12:29 AM
I think too many fans get caught up in stats. The kid hasn't have a big chance to actually play, but it seems like he has the kind of skills that you want from a PG especially in MDA's system. After the crap we've had to endure, I'm just glad we have someone new to look at with a real shot to help at the PG spot. Heck look at how things have been with Duhon as our only real PG. We lose games that we clearly have a shot to win. It seems to me that a decent to good PG would mean a lot to how this team plays. GO SERGIO!!! I hope he rocks.
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2/20/2010  6:20 PM
holfresh wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
TheGame wrote:
holfresh wrote:This guy barely looks like he belongs in the NBA...Speed he doesn't have...U guys are what I call true fans...

Yeah, that is what I noticed. This guy does not seem lighting quick at all. But he does seem to have a good handle, is not afraid to drive to the hole, and looks like an above-average passer. I have no doubt he is an upgrade over Duhon. The only question is whether he can be a starting pg on a contending team.

I can't think of any PG in the league thats not an upgrade over duhon

I think we found him...

THat would be just our luck. Walsh goes out and trades for the only pg in the league that might be worse than Duhon. (Nah, Sergio has got to be better than Duhon, right?).

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2/20/2010  8:57 PM
EnySpree wrote:I been telling you guys for years now that benching this dude Sergio has been a crime against basketball....the dude can ball...enjoy the clipp as he busts your favorite rookies ass...

Like I said...go to youtube and just search for Sergio...there are clips of him against The Bulls and Derrick Rose...he can't guard Rose but nobody can...but at the same time Rose can't guard Sergio either, but you see Sergio's court vision and point guard mentality to quickly look to take advantage off a score, especially when Derrick Rose scored....this dude is gonna fit D'antoni's system almost as perfectly as Nash did....My prayers have been answered!!!!

this they take Sergio out at about the halfway point of the vid...but the first half is all Sergio Highlights....I'm praying this guy can seize this opportunity


Eny I like what I see, but why hasn't he surplanted the starting pg's on the teams he has played with in the association ?

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2/21/2010  10:06 AM
TMS wrote:
EnySpree wrote:Guys have come in the league and take it by storm for you guys to appreciate a talent. I'm hoping Sergio can prove he can play this game and become our pg.

i hope for the same but i think the point i made was the complete opposite... you were completely down on Jordan Hill after 24 games yet have high expectations for S Rod after 4 years of being a backup... i guess that's the only thing i found a little curious... trust me nothing would make me happier than for S Rod to become a nice PG for us & be a longterm solution... at least then it would justify losing 1 of those picks we just gave up in all this.

he came into the league at 19...a lot of players dont get burn at the beginning of their careers and turn into something good prime example is chauncey billups.

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2/21/2010  10:10 AM
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EnySpree wrote:I been telling you guys for years now that benching this dude Sergio has been a crime against basketball....the dude can ball...enjoy the clipp as he busts your favorite rookies ass...

Like I said...go to youtube and just search for Sergio...there are clips of him against The Bulls and Derrick Rose...he can't guard Rose but nobody can...but at the same time Rose can't guard Sergio either, but you see Sergio's court vision and point guard mentality to quickly look to take advantage off a score, especially when Derrick Rose scored....this dude is gonna fit D'antoni's system almost as perfectly as Nash did....My prayers have been answered!!!!

this they take Sergio out at about the halfway point of the vid...but the first half is all Sergio Highlights....I'm praying this guy can seize this opportunity


Eny I like what I see, but why hasn't he surplanted the starting pg's on the teams he has played with in the association ?

he was young in portland and they were overloaded with pgs...in sactown he was playing behind tyreke evans.

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2/21/2010  10:24 AM
If Jimmer last name was Rubio he would be slotted as an 8 pick in the mock drafts. Oh yeah the kid can shoot--and pass and dunk and rebound--did i say he can shoot? Now is there an avenue to get him??
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2/21/2010  10:43 AM
iSergio wrote:Sergio Rodriguez is a career 4 ppg, 3 apg player. He can't be as bad as Chris Duhon but let's wait and see.

Hey, iSergio, this is your namesake you are talking about. I thought u would be a fan of his.
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2/21/2010  10:46 AM
Infamous wrote:
playa2 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:I been telling you guys for years now that benching this dude Sergio has been a crime against basketball....the dude can ball...enjoy the clipp as he busts your favorite rookies ass...

Like I said...go to youtube and just search for Sergio...there are clips of him against The Bulls and Derrick Rose...he can't guard Rose but nobody can...but at the same time Rose can't guard Sergio either, but you see Sergio's court vision and point guard mentality to quickly look to take advantage off a score, especially when Derrick Rose scored....this dude is gonna fit D'antoni's system almost as perfectly as Nash did....My prayers have been answered!!!!

this they take Sergio out at about the halfway point of the vid...but the first half is all Sergio Highlights....I'm praying this guy can seize this opportunity


Eny I like what I see, but why hasn't he surplanted the starting pg's on the teams he has played with in the association ?

he was young in portland and they were overloaded with pgs...in sactown he was playing behind tyreke evans.


One thing I like is that Sergio always keeps his dribble.
He also pushes the ball up court very quickly and either drives the hoop or dishes it to an open man. Fast tempo fits MDA's style of play. I'll give him a chance.

We also have him possibly for next year as he has a qualifying offer of $2.8 mil for 2010.

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2/21/2010  11:24 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/21/2010  12:20 PM
BRIGGS wrote:If Jimmer last name was Rubio he would be slotted as an 8 pick in the mock drafts. Oh yeah the kid can shoot--and pass and dunk and rebound--did i say he can shoot? Now is there an avenue to get him??

Never seen this kid once but it looks like he can play. I think they have to look at him with one of those 2nd rounders. Shoot, he might go even higher. He dropped that huge game on Arizona and he's got his club playing very good ball right now -- if BYU makes some noise in the Tourney, he might be a 1st rounder. I'm still leaning toward backcourt depth with those two picks as of right now:

Fredette/Greivis Vasquez
Sherron Collins/Vasquez
Fredette/Jamelle Horne
Collins/Horne

I'd be very happy with one of these combinations - they're all underrated players that I think could step in & help us right away next year. Unless they can swing a deal to get back into the first round, then I start looking at a little better quality of talent like maybe a big physical 2-guard like a Quincy Pondexter (QPon's really come into his own this year for Washington - big, physical, high % offensive wing that can D up a little bit and rebound the ball, looks like a real good kid too), an offensive big like a Craig Brackins or a smaller hustle big like a Trevor Booker.

Another player I really like that's completely flying under the radar is Demetri McCamey from Illinois. Nice size for a PG at 6'3", 210 lbs., this kid's game has really come a long way from when I first saw him. He's fairly quick & strong and is an underrated offensive player. Has really stepped up this year and become an excellent passer too, averaging almost 7 assists a game (over 7 in Big Ten play I think). I was watching the Illinois/Purdue game yesterday - this kid played 40 minutes, took only 6 shots but had 16 assists in the loss. Kinda reminds me of a poor man's Randy Foye/Chauncey Billups type of player - he's more than capable offensively and had some big scoring games this year. Seemed like every time I turned around yeaterday, McCamey was hooking up with Mike Davis or Mike Tisdale for a bucket... Speaking of Tisdale, this kid's huge at 7'1" (but very thin) with a tremendous shooting touch. Tisdale's more of a summer league invitee-type but I think McCamey might be good enough to get drafted somewhere late..

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2/21/2010  12:09 PM
Its funny how a PG can't be as good as Rubio, when Rubio hasn't played a minute on American soil.
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2/21/2010  12:28 PM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:Its funny how a PG can't be as good as Rubio, when Rubio hasn't played a minute on American soil.

Right - he's got a perfect record. How could anyone be better?

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