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JohnWallace44
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2/18/2010  1:51 PM
Briggs, what's shocking to me is that nobody else wanted that deal from the Knicks. Phoenix wouldn't take that deal for Amar'e? Toronto for Bosh? They're going to lose those guys for nothing. Utah for Boozer?

It seems like for three #1 picks... nobody else would take on a quazi-effective player in Jeffries?

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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2/18/2010  1:51 PM
And, just one final note until we hear the ITS OFFICIAL bit from the league:

Remember, the three teams AGREED UPON the trade and are waiting to make a CALL TO THE LEAGUE OFFICE about it.

This is NOT an official trade and is very complicated.

So, stay tuned. But, it's nice to see that it got done.

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2/18/2010  1:51 PM
now buy out curry please.
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2/18/2010  1:52 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/18/2010  2:01 PM
sebstar wrote:Look at this optimistically:

We now can sign two max free agents, obviously.

If T-Mac can get back to 75% of what he once was, we have a legit All-Star. Shyt, he's had enough rest LOL.

If S-Rod is who ya'll have been saying he is for the past three years around here, then we've finally got a point guard.

We were going nowhere as a franchise. Now we just need to have the basketball Gods on our side. There is no reward without risk!


Our Options(Choose 1) with $34mil in cap space approximately


You can sign 2 Max Free Agents which will eat up all the Cap Space

(in conjunction with above option)You can use T-Mac and Sergio along with Lee in S&T's because all will command salaries above say $3mil/yr

You can re-sign T-Mac and Sergio along with 1 Max

You can re-sign T-Mac and Sergio along with Lee plus another moderate Free Agent

You can re-sign Lee and Sergio along with 1 Max plus a small Free Agent

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2/18/2010  1:52 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:Briggs, what's shocking to me is that nobody else wanted that deal from the Knicks. Phoenix wouldn't take that deal for Amar'e? Toronto for Bosh? They're going to lose those guys for nothing. Utah for Boozer?

It seems like for three #1 picks... nobody else would take on a quazi-effective player in Jeffries?

I'm not sure if you realized this but most of the league hates the Knicks and does not want to help them get more cap room without raping them.

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2/18/2010  1:54 PM
Cosmic wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:This is eddy curry all over again--NY continues to deal from weakness--there is risk/reward and there is stupidity of throwing bad money[or idea] after bad money. We have just lost our draft for 2006 2010 2011 2012--it will come to light this year and when we sck the following two years and Jordan Hill becomes a solid player--we will cry.

Did this trad bring us 1% closer to Lebron---NO.

And since we got T mac and S rod--the young players we picked up Walker Giddens and our TD---sitting my man.

It's nothing like it.

Eddy Curry was signed to a cap crippling deal that meant when we stunk we had no flexibility to fix it.

This is nothing like that at all.

But, hey, have your day. I think a couple of you guys should get together tonight and tear up a bar over this.

It can turn out to be a lot like it in the end but for now lets channel positive energy.

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2/18/2010  1:55 PM
Juice wrote:
sebstar wrote:Look at this optimistically:

We now can sign two max free agents, obviously.

If T-Mac can get back to 75% of what he once was, we have a legit All-Star. Shyt, he's had enough rest LOL.

If S-Rod is who ya'll have been saying he is for the past three years around here, then we've finally got a point guard.

We were going nowhere as a franchise. Now we just need to have the basketball Gods on our side. There is no reward without risk!


Our Options(Choose 1) with $34mil in cap space approximately


You can sign 2 Max Free Agents which will eat up all the Cap Space

You can use T-Mac and Sergio along with Lee in S&T's because all will command salaries above say $3mil/yr

You can re-sign T-Mac and Sergio along with 1 Max

You can re-sign T-Mac and Sergio along with Lee plus another moderate Free Agent

You can re-sign Lee and Sergio along with 1 Max plus a small Free Agent

We can sign two max free agents and re-sign Lee, McGrady and S-Rod.

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2/18/2010  1:56 PM
sebstar wrote:
Juice wrote:
sebstar wrote:Look at this optimistically:

We now can sign two max free agents, obviously.

If T-Mac can get back to 75% of what he once was, we have a legit All-Star. Shyt, he's had enough rest LOL.

If S-Rod is who ya'll have been saying he is for the past three years around here, then we've finally got a point guard.

We were going nowhere as a franchise. Now we just need to have the basketball Gods on our side. There is no reward without risk!


Our Options(Choose 1) with $34mil in cap space approximately


You can sign 2 Max Free Agents which will eat up all the Cap Space

You can use T-Mac and Sergio along with Lee in S&T's because all will command salaries above say $3mil/yr

You can re-sign T-Mac and Sergio along with 1 Max

You can re-sign T-Mac and Sergio along with Lee plus another moderate Free Agent

You can re-sign Lee and Sergio along with 1 Max plus a small Free Agent

We can sign two max free agents and re-sign Lee, McGrady and S-Rod.

Not with the caphold we can't.

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2/18/2010  1:56 PM
This is the type of deal if you don't come back with Lebron and Bosh then you don't come back.
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2/18/2010  1:57 PM
bishop wrote:now buy out curry please.

no curry buyout will come until the summer, because he hasn't exercised his option yet.

once he does that, then the knicks may seek to get a buyout to save a little cap room, if he can get a deal that gets him the difference.

earlier i was speculating with the previous proposed tmac deal from houston, and reading larry coon's last nytimes blog, that the knicks would need eddy to take $1.7 mil less to get them in a spot to sign 2 max fa's.

i am reading now that with this deal, maybe we can already do that.

have to check the numbers...

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2/18/2010  1:57 PM
Wow the Rockets made out like bandits. They got a great scorer and basically 3 first round picks. I'm surprised the Kings didn't get one routed their way.

The Knicks got a slightly better deal than reported yesterday because they get Sergio. I hope Sergio can flourish here. Still an amazing risk. Hope it pays off.

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2/18/2010  1:57 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/18/2010  2:12 PM
Childs2Dudley wrote:Well I don't know what people were expecting. I didn't even know you could protect a pick on a swap so who cares? We knew about the swap. As long as 2012 was protected nicely.


Top 5 is not good protection. It's the difference between landing a Gallo/Gordon/Roy/Gay/Bynum/Noah/Iggy/Kaman etc etc or having no shot at all.

The fact you think this is good protection shows me where your IQ level is at.

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2/18/2010  1:58 PM
Childs2Dudley wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:Briggs, what's shocking to me is that nobody else wanted that deal from the Knicks. Phoenix wouldn't take that deal for Amar'e? Toronto for Bosh? They're going to lose those guys for nothing. Utah for Boozer?

It seems like for three #1 picks... nobody else would take on a quazi-effective player in Jeffries?

I'm not sure if you realized this but most of the league hates the Knicks and does not want to help them get more cap room without raping them.

What's different about the Knicks than any other sorry franchise?

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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2/18/2010  1:58 PM
sebstar wrote:
Juice wrote:
sebstar wrote:Look at this optimistically:

We now can sign two max free agents, obviously.

If T-Mac can get back to 75% of what he once was, we have a legit All-Star. Shyt, he's had enough rest LOL.

If S-Rod is who ya'll have been saying he is for the past three years around here, then we've finally got a point guard.

We were going nowhere as a franchise. Now we just need to have the basketball Gods on our side. There is no reward without risk!


Our Options(Choose 1) with $34mil in cap space approximately


You can sign 2 Max Free Agents which will eat up all the Cap Space

You can use T-Mac and Sergio along with Lee in S&T's because all will command salaries above say $3mil/yr

You can re-sign T-Mac and Sergio along with 1 Max

You can re-sign T-Mac and Sergio along with Lee plus another moderate Free Agent

You can re-sign Lee and Sergio along with 1 Max plus a small Free Agent

We can sign two max free agents and re-sign Lee, McGrady and S-Rod.

We cannot do that. We have to renounce those guys.

Gallo, Lebron, and Johnson would be a nice core to work with. The key is getting Lebron.

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2/18/2010  1:58 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:Briggs, what's shocking to me is that nobody else wanted that deal from the Knicks. Phoenix wouldn't take that deal for Amar'e? Toronto for Bosh? They're going to lose those guys for nothing. Utah for Boozer?

It seems like for three #1 picks... nobody else would take on a quazi-effective player in Jeffries?

I'm not sure if you realized this but most of the league hates the Knicks and does not want to help them get more cap room without raping them.

What's different about the Knicks than any other sorry franchise?

New York.

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2/18/2010  1:58 PM
In effect Sergio is a #1 pick -- just getting him 2 years early.

I guess that was the only consolation.

I'm pissed that Al isn't gone -- come on Donnie get rid of Al Swearingin.

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2/18/2010  1:58 PM
Pharzeone wrote:This is the type of deal if you don't come back with Lebron and Bosh then you don't come back.

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2/18/2010  1:59 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:
sebstar wrote:
Juice wrote:
sebstar wrote:Look at this optimistically:

We now can sign two max free agents, obviously.

If T-Mac can get back to 75% of what he once was, we have a legit All-Star. Shyt, he's had enough rest LOL.

If S-Rod is who ya'll have been saying he is for the past three years around here, then we've finally got a point guard.

We were going nowhere as a franchise. Now we just need to have the basketball Gods on our side. There is no reward without risk!


Our Options(Choose 1) with $34mil in cap space approximately


You can sign 2 Max Free Agents which will eat up all the Cap Space

You can use T-Mac and Sergio along with Lee in S&T's because all will command salaries above say $3mil/yr

You can re-sign T-Mac and Sergio along with 1 Max

You can re-sign T-Mac and Sergio along with Lee plus another moderate Free Agent

You can re-sign Lee and Sergio along with 1 Max plus a small Free Agent

We can sign two max free agents and re-sign Lee, McGrady and S-Rod.

Not with the caphold we can't.

what the hell is a caphold? I thought teams could re-sign their own free agents?

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2/18/2010  1:59 PM
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Childs2Dudley wrote:Well I don't know what people were expecting. I didn't even know you could protect a pick on a swap so who cares? We knew about the swap. As long as 2012 was protected nicely.


Top 5 is not good protection. It's the difference between landing a Gallo/Gordon/Roy/Gay/Bynum/Noah/Iggy/Kaman etc etc or having no shot at all.

The fact you think this is good protection shows me where you IQ level is at.

My IQ level? Don't insult me because I like this deal and believe it needed to be made. You don't like it. Good for you. Go throw your insults elsewhere.

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2/18/2010  1:59 PM
The fact you think this is good protection shows me where you IQ level is at.


That's pretty messed up bro.
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Stien says: Done!!! T-mac and Sergio to the Knicks!!!

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