Isiah just cringed somewhere.

nyk4ever wrote:

djsunyc wrote:did that really say "it could save them some cash" this year? as in for the remainder of this season? lol...

i just thought i read it wrong.. glad it wasn't just me. that sounds ridiculous

I think the point of this odd trade would be to get Darko off the bench so we don't have to deal with him sulking over not playing. Nothing more.

But, saving Dolan 500K + 500K lux tax - is 1M more that Donnie could ask to play with in a trade like Houston's to try his best to make it work.

So you can't always sneeze at those little savings.

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:The whole plan was to get cap space to sign LBJ. They can do that now. However, making this trade would allow them to get LBj a sidekick or two lesser priced sidekicks. If LBJ comes to NY that 2012 pick will not be a lottery pick, no way. They would be able to buy one, so I am not worried about that. The swap is no big deal because with LBJ the Knicks will have a better record than Houston, so they don't swap and if they do, its NY advantage. So it really comes down to Hill. If they trade Harrington for Thomas, there is your Hill replacement. Enough said. Make the deal.

If DW is trying to save an asset or two good for him but in the end, he should pull the trigger rather than holding onto the JJ bag.

The plan is LBJ not Jordan Hill.

And if LBJ doesn't come or someone gets hurt, well then, we're screwed. You don't pull an Isiah, after pulling two Isiahs in a row. Three times is not the charm here.

Allanfan20 wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:The whole plan was to get cap space to sign LBJ. They can do that now. However, making this trade would allow them to get LBj a sidekick or two lesser priced sidekicks. If LBJ comes to NY that 2012 pick will not be a lottery pick, no way. They would be able to buy one, so I am not worried about that. The swap is no big deal because with LBJ the Knicks will have a better record than Houston, so they don't swap and if they do, its NY advantage. So it really comes down to Hill. If they trade Harrington for Thomas, there is your Hill replacement. Enough said. Make the deal.

If DW is trying to save an asset or two good for him but in the end, he should pull the trigger rather than holding onto the JJ bag.

The plan is LBJ not Jordan Hill.

And if LBJ doesn't come or someone gets hurt, well then, we're screwed. You don't pull an Isiah, after pulling two Isiahs in a row. Three times is not the charm here.

Channeling my inner Isiah... this plan is so crazy it just might work.

Allanfan20 wrote:I wonder what the lovers of this trade will say if Cleveland trades for Amare, or even Miami trading for Amare. I'm pretty sure we'll be hearing crickets from all of you. That's two max players on one team able to get the full 6 years. Yet they'll go to NY? LMAO

Lol, I'm not a lover of this trade by any means but if Miami gets Amare, maybe LeBron and Bosh team up in NY to take them down? Neither Cleveland nor Toronto would have the cap to bring the other star over.

In my mind, worst case scenario is Cleveland gets Amare and then Miami signs Bosh. That would absolutely kill us.

This is why I'm against trading an unprotected pick and why from the looks of it, Donnie agrees.

Panos wrote:

Cosmic wrote:

Panos wrote:

Dude we are giving them the right to swap picks. If we stink next year, its TWO lottery picks. Not one, TWO.
Why are you disputing that?

It's one pick. A 2012 protected pick.

The other is a 2011 swap of 1st round picks. You see houston's record this year? They're a .500 team. You don't think if we score this summer we won't be a .500 team?

No more swap.

It's not two picks it's one.

And we're not going to stink after this summer they aren't going to be lotto picks and if we kept them we'd be once again picking in the 8-10 range at BEST and once again wouldn't have ANY chance to add a FRANCHISE player.

The picks are pretty meaningless in the bigger plan here. A plan that is scuttled if we don't do this trade - or don't get REAL lucky in the next 24 hours and find someone else - to demand essentially the same damn thing - Hill, Jeffries, pick

You're unbelievable.

So just to get this clear. You're saying that there is absolutely no way we stink bad enough to
have a lotto pick next year (which we would then have Houston take from us)?
It's impossible?

If we don't get Lebron, and pick up JJ instead. Or as eVil points out we get whomever and they get injured?
It's impossible?
Just for the record...

This is called rationalizing against something to make it fit your own hypothesis. You are now talking about potential injury to the player we get? How many trade decisions have ever been based on that? Its like Cosmic said our next year pick being a lotto pick is a low percentage. The whole idea of trades is you are dealing with the unknown. So why people continue posting things like "we should only do this if we know that for sure" is something I don't understand. You cant have the cake and eat it too.

You make decisions based on probabilities and you try to minimize risk, but if you take a position that you will only do something if you know the outcome, then you may never do anything at all. This is no way to approach any type of decision making. Just my two cents and not directed at any one person or post, just towards the general content in multiple threads.