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VDesai
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2/16/2010  11:02 PM
joec32033 wrote:Is anybody ok with this trade if we get a pick from the Celts for Nate?

Independent things but I'd be dissapointed if we didn't some kind of get picks back for Nate and Al Harrington.

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2/16/2010  11:03 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/16/2010  11:04 PM
Via Twitter, Bucher is recanting what he said on TV. Also says "Our man" Marc Stein says, Chicago is still in it for him too.
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2/16/2010  11:03 PM
djsunyc wrote:
Uptown wrote:
djsunyc wrote:the marbury pick had protection too.

i really am starting to think that d'antoni messed up alot of stuff the past 2 seasons which in turn, screwed up walsh.

Why the hell does everyone keep blaming MDa for this bum squad?! Seriously, I'm not the biggest MDa fan and will call him out if necessary, but this is getting beyond absurd. I remember when I started a thread awhile ago accusing Brown of forcing Isiah hand in some trades and people jumped down my thorast claiming that Brown isn't the GM./ Well MDa isn't the GM. And please explain what he screwed up on an already screwed up team?

d'antoni was behind the following:

- gallo drafting
- duhon signing
- marbury benching
- lack of pt for hill and douglas
- extensive jeffries pt
- nate dnp for december
- lost the team 1 month ago

that effected walsh's ability to make moves.

btw, nice to call them a bum squad. way to support them.

The sad part is that for most of those incidents, Walsh seemed just as confused as everyone else. I'm sure Donnie comes home cursing this guy's name. How often did Donnie have to say I didn't know there was an issue, well I'll talk with <insert name>.

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2/16/2010  11:04 PM
VDesai wrote:The first 3 of those things weren't really negatives. Ok, Duhon wasn't good but they needed a transitional PG and he signed for a short enough term where didn't hurt their flexibility at all. Gallo in the draft and ridding ourselves of Marbury was both positive in my eyes. The last 3 things (outside of Jefferies) are sort of a fluid situation at this point.

sorry brother but marbury was prime for a bouceback year and got zero chance for it.

gallo, true, is TBD...but so far, you have to call it dissapointing b/c they had an opportunity to get a starting center.

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2/16/2010  11:07 PM
djsunyc wrote:maybe they did this so they can re-sign lee at $10+ mil?

if the Lebron & Wade plan goes bust then we're looking at signing Joe Johnson & D Lee while also trying to sign a PG upgrade this summer like Ray Felton... that's a pretty severe dropoff.

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2/16/2010  11:07 PM
I don't like giving up the 2012 pick at all, unless we get future firsts from the Celtics or others via trade for Nate.
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2/16/2010  11:12 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/16/2010  11:14 PM
djsunyc wrote:
Uptown wrote:
djsunyc wrote:the marbury pick had protection too.

i really am starting to think that d'antoni messed up alot of stuff the past 2 seasons which in turn, screwed up walsh.

Why the hell does everyone keep blaming MDa for this bum squad?! Seriously, I'm not the biggest MDa fan and will call him out if necessary, but this is getting beyond absurd. I remember when I started a thread awhile ago accusing Brown of forcing Isiah hand in some trades and people jumped down my thorast claiming that Brown isn't the GM./ Well MDa isn't the GM. And please explain what he screwed up on an already screwed up team?

d'antoni was behind the following:

- gallo drafting
- duhon signing
- marbury benching
- lack of pt for hill and douglas
- extensive jeffries pt
- nate dnp for december
- lost the team 1 month ago

that effected walsh's ability to make moves.

btw, nice to call them a bum squad. way to support them.

First, I dont think its fair to call me out for "support" when you jumped ship and are no longer a fan of the Knicks. Second, I'm a die hard knick fan who doesn't wear blue and orange colored glasses. I deal with reality. And if my team is a combined 131-251 (estimate) over the last 4 1/2 seasons, well, I'm sorry thats a bum record, plan and simple.

I'm sure MDA had imput in the drafting of Gallo as he should. As Parcells said 'If he's going to cook the meal, he should have some imput in shopping for the ingredients.' I'm sure he had input in Duhon aswell, which was not a big deal being that they only signed him to a 2 yr deal.

Marbury's massive contract and constant run ins with LB, Isiah, the court case, sex scnadal, etc did Marbury in way more than anything MDA did. How did MDA hurt Hill and Douglas' value by not playing them much?

Nate was still getting looks from other teams when he was benched, I believe TMS pointed that out in a thread. Boston and another team was asking about Nate. Jeffeies getting extended playing time might have helped. He played very well when we were winning ball games in December.

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2/16/2010  11:13 PM
djsunyc wrote:
VDesai wrote:The first 3 of those things weren't really negatives. Ok, Duhon wasn't good but they needed a transitional PG and he signed for a short enough term where didn't hurt their flexibility at all. Gallo in the draft and ridding ourselves of Marbury was both positive in my eyes. The last 3 things (outside of Jefferies) are sort of a fluid situation at this point.

sorry brother but marbury was prime for a bouceback year and got zero chance for it.

gallo, true, is TBD...but so far, you have to call it dissapointing b/c they had an opportunity to get a starting center.

Um, Marbury was poised to bounce himself out of the NBA which is exactly what happened. He's a marginal NBA player at this point and every team deemed him not worth the trouble. I think you look at Gallo's first 82 games and you have to be happy with that production given his age/level of experience to this point. Brook Lopez is a good player, but the Knicks got themselves a good player in that spot and worth the pick value so far. You can't worry about every single player taken behind you when the one you got is working out.

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2/16/2010  11:14 PM
Thats whats up. Lets hope this is the beginning of a dynasty. Gotta admit, Walsh getting rid of Jeffries was something none of us thought was possible.

LETS GO! FOR THE WIN!

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2/16/2010  11:15 PM
did you really just copy your post from the other thread to this one? smh...
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2/16/2010  11:16 PM
sebstar wrote:Thats whats up. Lets hope this is the beginning of a dynasty. Gotta admit, Walsh getting rid of Jeffries was something none of us thought was possible.

LETS GO! FOR THE WIN!

bro, throwing in a #8 lottery pick, swap rights & a future 1st round pick u can unload anyone.

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2/16/2010  11:18 PM
The one remote possibility in this whole thing is that Tracy McGrady is healthy and plays like Tracy McGrady for 30 games. Creates somewhat of a quandary...
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2/16/2010  11:23 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/16/2010  11:26 PM
sebstar wrote:Thats whats up. Lets hope this is the beginning of a dynasty. Gotta admit, Walsh getting rid of Jeffries was something none of us thought was possible.
I always thought it was possible. Walsh should have done it last year; or over the summer; or at the beginning of this year. Waiting til the trade deadline just put him in a bind.

Walsh has terrible negotiating skills. Just horrible....and he is been a GM for like 30 years. Walsh announced to the world how important it was to move Jeffries contract. So stupid! He gave away his hand and got raped. The cartoon is right on about how stupid Walsh is.

Note: I am glad we have the cap space for 2 max contracts. I have no problem with that philosophy. The point is that it was done so poorly at such a high cost when it didn't need to be. Walsh gets an "F" and should retire.

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2/16/2010  11:24 PM
TMS wrote:
sebstar wrote:Thats whats up. Lets hope this is the beginning of a dynasty. Gotta admit, Walsh getting rid of Jeffries was something none of us thought was possible.

LETS GO! FOR THE WIN!

bro, throwing in a #8 lottery pick, swap rights & a future 1st round pick u can unload anyone.

We already been through all this! Jordan Hill aint shyt. Walsh had to abandon ship with this quickness on that fool.

Of course I dont like the deal, but I've come to terms with it. We suck and change is good. I hope. Gulp.

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2/16/2010  11:24 PM
VDesai wrote:The one remote possibility in this whole thing is that Tracy McGrady is healthy and plays like Tracy McGrady for 30 games. Creates somewhat of a quandary...

too many diff rumors im seeing... some have said he isnt even ready to play yet.

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2/16/2010  11:27 PM
well at the very LEAST, the knicks will get joe johnson.
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2/16/2010  11:28 PM
it's somewhat fascinating tho...isiah traded picks to acquire contracts and walsh traded picks to dump contracts. the knicks...where extreme rabidity happens.
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2/16/2010  11:30 PM
djsunyc wrote:well at the very LEAST, the knicks will get joe johnson.

Yea for the MAX.

What a deal.....

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2/16/2010  11:32 PM
Does Joe Johnson and Rudy Gay even make them a good team? I mean they still have a glaring need for a PG with this offense.
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2/16/2010  11:32 PM
so we just made our team irrelevant for the draft over the next 3 years? LOL.. boy this cot damn organization, just doesn't get it..
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