jazz74 wrote:i would agree that we are done if cleveland does get stoudamire. lebron wont come. however, i dont see the point of this trade for phoenix. they said they want younger players and draft picks. golden state had a better offer than hickson and big z.

AnubisADL wrote:This is bad news for David Lee Lover's.

If the Nets cant get Amare or Bosh they will be targeting David Lee.

Anyone with cap space will call up David Lee and see if he wants to play for them.

That's business.

Who cares?

I don't really care if Lee stays or goes. He cancels himself out so badly that I even wonder if his bright spots are worth the ooo's and ahhh's.

Score 20/10. Give up 30/20.

Not exactly a winning formula.

BUT WAIT! Let's trade for Dalembert! He's a shot blocker! Now everything will be perfect!

No, it won't, cause now you got two highly flawed players trying to back each other up. And you lose because teams know how to exploit that - how to trick Dalembert into covering for Lee's defensive flaw - leading to Dalembert's man being wide open for a dunk all day every day.

So, no this doesn't work.

Lee will probably end up an S&T this summer I think. We won't let the asset walk but to re-sign it to his demanding 14M+ would be obscene.

Cosmic wrote:Oh and the other LAUGH is people who pencil in Jordan Hill as our savior at Center and slide Lee to PF and sit back expecting the rings to roll in.

Give me a freakin break. Jordan Hill is this year's Balkman. A Balkman with little energy at that.

It amazes me how many fans want to do this:

"Forget LeBron! ---- "

C-Hill
F-Lee
F-Gallo
G-Chandler
G-Steve Nash

60 Wins and the NBA Finals here we come!

Uh, no. 30 wins and more calls to fire Walsh and D'Antoni here we come if that happens.

dude, who are these people u keep referring to that pencil in Jordan Hill as our savior & a future HOFer? if u read these things on RealGM then leave it on RealGM... no one cares what they have to say over there on the UK forums.

TMS wrote:^ nevermind, i see what you're talking about on the other thread... oy ve.

Yesh.

But, yea, you got me pegged. I do read multiple Knick forums and sometimes when I go off on a rant....I'm going off on all I read and not just the particular forum I'm replying on.

My screw up for sure.

I'm retarded what do you want lol.

Cosmic wrote:

TMS wrote:^ nevermind, i see what you're talking about on the other thread... oy ve.

Yesh.

But, yea, you got me pegged. I do read multiple Knick forums and sometimes when I go off on a rant....I'm going off on all I read and not just the particular forum I'm replying on.

My screw up for sure.

I'm retarded what do you want lol.

that became evident to me when you started ragging on my boy Jamal.

http://news-herald.com/articles/2010/02/15/sports/nh2098390.txt

Many around the league are holding their breath until the Amar'e Stoudemire trade to the Cavaliers is announced.

But there could be one major road block.

A source said the five-time All-Star center let it be known that he does not want to come to Cleveland.

The Cavs have reportedly been informed of that news and have gone in another direction.

They had reportedly offered center Zydrunas Ilgauskas, promising young power forward J.J. Hickson and another player to the Suns for Stoudemire.

The source said judging from the changing winds of the NBA, it's not totally out of the question that the Cavs could still make a deal for Stoudemire.

But the 6-foot-10, 249-pound Stoudemire has little desire of joining LeBron James and Shaquille O'Neal on the Cavs, even if it meant bringing home an NBA championship.

One thing that could change Stoudemire's thought process, the source said, would be if the Cavs offered a contract extension. Stoudemire is supposedly seeking a three-year, $60 million extension.

He will earn $16.4 million this season and has a player option on his 2010-11 contract worth $17.7 million.

Reportedly, Stoudemire didn't mesh with O'Neal last year in Phoenix.

The Cavs might be targeting Wizards forward Antawn Jamison or Pacers forward/center Troy Murphy. Both are "stretch 4s" who can shoot from the perimeter and open up the paint for O'Neal and for James to slash to the basket.

Jamison, 33, has almost $28 million on his contract after this season.

The Cavs aren't the only team pursuing the 6-9, 230-pounder, either, as Miami has joined the fray.

Stoudemire's agent, Happy Walters, told ESPN that he hadn't discussed a possible deal with the Cavs as of Monday morning.

Since Stoudemire owns a house in the Miami area, some think he eventually wants to play for the Heat.

Miami and Philadelphia, and possibly a few other teams, are making serious offers to the Suns for Stoudemire. The Suns would love to add 76ers swingman Andre Iguodala, a former college star at the University of Arizona, and still very popular in the state.

Heat owner Micky Arison said he wouldn't part with forward Michael Beasley in any deal. The Heat are trying to entice the Suns with center Jermaine O'Neal's bloated $23 million expiring contract. So far, it hasn't worked.

The Los Angeles Times reported that if the Stoudemire talks break down, the Cavs have a deal in place for Murphy.

Ilgauskas has a 15-percent trade kicker on his $11.5 million expiring contract. The Cavs would have had to add another player in a deal for Stoudemire because the contracts of Ilgauskas and Hickson came up $65,000 short. Someone such as Danny Green or Darnell Jackson would have to be included.

The 7-3 Ilgauskas would have to be paid about $1.7 million if he's traded. It would have to be paid by the team acquiring him, not the Cavs. The Cavs, though, could include cash in the deal.

Stoudemire also has a trade kicker, but since he's already making the league maximum, he's not eligible to receive it.

Some think if the Cavs make the deal, they'd want to sign Stoudemire to a contract extension by the June 30 deadline.

Another option would be to allow him to become a free agent and use him in a sign-and-trade. The Cavs could get a $15 million trade exception in such a deal.

There was also talk of a three-way trade between the Cavs, Sixers and Suns.

TNT analyst Charles Barkley said it would be frightening for the Cavs to add Stoudemire.

"That would be scary to have Amar'e on one wing and LeBron (James) on the other wing," he said. "All these trades are designed to do one thing, and that is to beat the Lakers."

which leads me to 2 things...

1. like i said earlier, everyone needs to chill. even if this trade goes through, i highly doubt amar'e stays in cleveland, the dude is from florida and has his eyes set on signing with miami this offseason whether he's traded to cleveland or not.

2. tells you what kind of heart that amar'e has. if he was dealt to cleveland this year, he could certainly be in prime contention for a championship being paired with lebron, yet he doesn't want to. i would stay so far away from this guy in FA, it's not even funny.