djsunyc wrote:

gallo's potential to be dirk is no different than thinking frye was going to be duncan/kg. why cap chandler's potential but not gallo's?

Not even in the ballpark DJ.

Chandler has already shown his abilities. It's quite obvious what he can do now is all he can do. You add in a little veteran savvy as the years go on and that's it.

Gallo has a special all around talent that you can tell has not yet been tapped or molded.

There is a DISTINCT difference in the two.

Me thinks you're no longer live from section 404.

Frye? FRYE!? Oh come'on. Only morons pumped him up to be Duncan or KG. Using that as an example is terrible. Typical fan reaction.

EDIT: That was typical fan reaction to label Frye as such, not yours individually.

Cosmic wrote:

djsunyc wrote:

gallo's potential to be dirk is no different than thinking frye was going to be duncan/kg. why cap chandler's potential but not gallo's?

Not even in the ballpark DJ.

Chandler has already shown his abilities. It's quite obvious what he can do now is all he can do. You add in a little veteran savvy as the years go on and that's it.

Gallo has a special all around talent that you can tell has not yet been tapped or molded.

There is a DISTINCT difference in the two.

Me thinks you're no longer live from section 404.

Frye? FRYE!? Oh come'on. Only morons pumped him up to be Duncan or KG. Using that as an example is terrible. Typical fan reaction.

EDIT: That was typical fan reaction to label Frye as such, not yours individually.

cosmic - how much yellow snow have you eaten in the last few days?

Cosmic wrote:

tkf wrote:

Cosmic wrote:

Anji wrote:LOL, Lbj and Agent Zero would be sooooooo off the wall............ but I would definitely endorse it.

Off the wall as in two clowns chucking shots and playing keep away while fighting for who is the franchise player in the media?

Yeah it'd be off the wall alright.

GILBERT ARENASS IS TRASH.

He's Jamal Crawford + Free Throws + A real SHITTY attitude.

i HAVE been saying that about that clown for some years now..

Thank God I'm not the only one that sees through him. And what I am seeing through I don't even know. Dude yells HIBACHI and 50,000 kids go ape shyt over him and worship him like a God himself. Give me a break. Dude was never good. A chucker that the League instituted the "touch him and he goes to the line" bit - which bumped his scoring from 20 to 30 a game.

If Jamal Crawford had the league backing he would have the same identical stats as Arenass in his career and be doing it with CLASS. And not to tarnish Crawford that guy has been awesome this season. That's a different story though.

But, no, HIBACHI, and OMG his twitter is SO FUNNY, and OMG his blogs are HILARIOUS.

Know what? No they aren't. They are low brow low intelligence TRASH.

And now with the guns, "Oh come'on GIL just gettin his groove on don't hate on the man."

GIVE ME AN F'ING BREAK. There's nothing funny about guns and you know what, the people who JOKE AROUND WITH GUNS are far more dangerous than those that have them for a purpose be it defense or whatever.

He is a piece of TRASH and if he became a Knick I will stop posting and stop watching games.

But no way Donnie touches that anyway. Donnie was brought in to put an END to players like that. Thank GOD.

I always felt the wiz should not have extended him. they would be better off with a good PG who passes and defend and letting jamison and butler lead that team, and give the kids a chance to play off the bench.. the wiz, with a healthy arenas at best were a 47-48 win team.. that same team wihout arenas won like 45-46 games.. they don't need that trash...

Marv wrote:
cosmic - how much yellow snow have you eaten in the last few days?

How about you just say what you want to say instead of throwing out some bizarre line like that?

Cosmic wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:- Gallo's 7 ft tall
- Gallo blocks shots
- Gallo rebounds
- Gallo has unlimited range
- Gallo is a PF

- Gallo is intelligent, Chandler is dumb as bricks.
- Gallo is a dynamic player, Chandler gets lazy and chucks bricks.
- Gallo is a team player, Chandler tries to get his (and, sure, some of this is due to Harrington chucking, Nate Chucking, Duhon to Lee to Duhon To Lee, so I understand Chandler trying to 'get his' but he chucks like Harrington when it gets to that, and that's dumb.
- Gallo has the tools to be a star player - Chandler is already peaked in terms of skill (but will get more savvy as he gains experience)

There is ONE thing Chandler has over Gallo - and that's health. Gallo could be in a wheelchair in a year for all we know.

But, in the scope of comparing two young players - if you had to make a decision? You keep Gallo because the reward could be SO much higher in the end. Gallo has the ability to be a MUCH better player than Chandler in the end.

Chandler is already a poor man's Tayshaun Prince. Gallo could be Dirk.

So what would YOU choose? Prince or Dirk!?

Yeah....Dirk.

So there is why Gallo is considered more untouchable than Chandler.

Now, just to throw this out there, if both players we have right now - were to never change - were both at their ceilings - well then sure, Chandler is the one you keep.

As with anything there is uncertainty here.

I think you are being a little harsh on Chandler. I dont think he is stupid. I dont think he has the good of a "feel" for the game. I don't think Chandler will ever be a play maker but he is a solid two-way defender at the 3. What I like about him is I think he'd be ideal next to a star because he will defend and doesn't need X amount of shots a night to be happy.

Now if a team was stupid enough to take Curry if we packaged Chandler then I'd send him packing.

Maybe he's not your franchise build around guy but he's damn good.

IF we get Lebron, or even Bosh I seriously hope we offer our expiring contract to Wash (Curry+JJ for Arenas). Isnt that why we brought MDA here? To coach a team like Gilber, Chandler, Lebron, Gallo and Lee? Thats a 60 win team

Cosmic wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:- Gallo's 7 ft tall
- Gallo blocks shots
- Gallo rebounds
- Gallo has unlimited range
- Gallo is a PF

- Gallo is intelligent, Chandler is dumb as bricks.
- Gallo is a dynamic player, Chandler gets lazy and chucks bricks.
- Gallo is a team player, Chandler tries to get his (and, sure, some of this is due to Harrington chucking, Nate Chucking, Duhon to Lee to Duhon To Lee, so I understand Chandler trying to 'get his' but he chucks like Harrington when it gets to that, and that's dumb.
- Gallo has the tools to be a star player - Chandler is already peaked in terms of skill (but will get more savvy as he gains experience)

There is ONE thing Chandler has over Gallo - and that's health. Gallo could be in a wheelchair in a year for all we know.

But, in the scope of comparing two young players - if you had to make a decision? You keep Gallo because the reward could be SO much higher in the end. Gallo has the ability to be a MUCH better player than Chandler in the end.

Chandler is already a poor man's Tayshaun Prince. Gallo could be Dirk.

So what would YOU choose? Prince or Dirk!?

Yeah....Dirk.

So there is why Gallo is considered more untouchable than Chandler.

Now, just to throw this out there, if both players we have right now - were to never change - were both at their ceilings - well then sure, Chandler is the one you keep.

As with anything there is uncertainty here.

Are we watching the same player? Danilo Gallinari doesn't have a 1/100th of Dirk Nowitzki's talent or skill. Gallo is Toni Kukoc/Detlef Shrempf/Robert Horry at best imo. He doesn't have the athleticism, skill or speed to be a top flight SuperStar like Dirk. I really haven't seen much out of Gallo except standing there as a spot-up shooter. He doesn't drive (only about 3 ft attempts per game) enough to ever be a top scorer either. He's an OK rebounder, passer and defender but nothing special. Projecting him as Dirk is ridiculous. He'll be a 15-18 ppg, 5 rpg, sharp shooter who plays hard, plays team ball and doesn't cause any drama.

tkf wrote:

Pharzeone wrote:Real reason why. Isiah drafted Chandler and Walsh drafted Gallinari. Never understood it myself except for that reason. I keep hearing about high IQ and superior skills but I don't see it other than hitting the 3 pointer don't know what advantage he has. He doesn't use his height well in the post, he seems to have real problems taking guys off the dribble, is not very creative despite the fact you keep hearing about ball handling skills that don't materialize, dribbles far too high and is too slow to be effective against wing men. I do believe there is also deeper issues between the two of them just look at Cosmic's post. He maybe the most over hyped player in NY. Once you get out of NY it is not quite the same. They break down his game truthfully.

I am not so sure I agree with you there completely. I usually go around to other boards on realgm and other teams and fans think highly of gallo. I can tell you this. the fans in minny would gladly trade the rights to rubio for gallo.. but they think chandler is trash.. I am being for real..

As far as gallo's handle. they are good man, he is not allen iverson with the ball, but he is effective. he gets to the hoop and notice how often he is fouled dribbling on his drives. He takes long strides and he can go either way with the ball, can go left dribbling just as good as he does going right.. that is not common for big men, not common for most players to be honest..

when we talk about IQ, I think about him making the right plays at the right time.. watch some of the passes he gives lee and jeffries on the pick and roll.. knowing what type of pass, and angle is important. He seems to just get it... watch the way he dupes guys into fouling him on the perimeter.. again, the kid plays with a level of smarts beyond his years.. not to say he doesn't have flaws, but it seems as if some people are taking his flaws and using it to mitigate his overall skillset as if he will never overcome those flaws..

I am talking about non-fans. No disrespect to the realgm board but from what I seen most of those guys sound like they started watching ball about 10 years ago, so I'm not surprise. His handle is good when standing still but on the move it becomes very suspect which is normally when he gets into trouble and gets his turnovers. Also, fouls calls is subjective. He tends to flop on contact which is why he seldom finishes with an and 1 call. I'm sorry but can we stop talking about his passing. He is averaging less assist than Chandler's. I think you guys want to see things because of where this organization has been. I don't want to get into this again but I don't see anything that would make me say his IQ is any higher than the majority of players on this team. He tends to make the some dumb plays just like all them. Unforced turnovers, questionable fouls and etc.

Marv wrote:they're both maddeningly inconsistent as 2nd and 3rd year players can be. the thing that concerns about both is do they have the temperament to put their stamps on a game. Both are capable but will they come up big when needed? can they take over a game? pretty inconclusive on both. we have to continue to move forward building this franchise without yet knowing what we have on our hands already.

I think that is up to the coach. Duhon running around on that last possession and taking that airball is on the coach.