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GoNyGoNyGo
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1/4/2004  9:34 PM
This is what happens when they play a superior team that plays D. NY is better. They only lost by a few, last year they would have been blown out in the 1st half. They need FWILL back in a BAD way. He creates easy looks for his team mates and runs the O very well. Ward is still the second best PG NY has.

I guess Eisley is on the outs. Looks like IT is trying to move him. Good Lick IT!
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CanadianKnicksFan
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1/4/2004  9:37 PM
Anderson should have been on Kisdd in the 4th
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GoNyGoNyGo
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1/4/2004  9:44 PM
Dice looked better tonight. Kmart got him on one in the 4th...but otherwise, Dice played him well.
tkf
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1/4/2004  9:45 PM
A very winnable game, i just don't understand these knicks seem to take losing in stride, I hate it, I hate losing to players like kittles, Jefferson, martin and the wife beater with a big head son... I know we missed williams a lot tonight but our lack of a player with the ability to take over a game sucks. I mean we wasted a great defensive performance by deke, that alone should have been enough to fire us up to a win...
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simrud
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1/4/2004  9:45 PM
who cares, Knicks just plain and simple suck
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
gunsnewing
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1/4/2004  9:52 PM
I will wait til Frank comes back before I completely lose hope.......14-21, atrocious! so glad I didn't go all the way to new york to witness it.
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1/4/2004  10:10 PM
I hate the Nets with a passion but the fact is they were the better team tonight because they have Jason Kidd. The teams looked evenly matched until the 4th Qtr when Kidd took the Nets to another level. The Knicks simply were not able to match it.

OldFan
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1/4/2004  10:27 PM
I'm in MA. so don't get to see the games - how'd they look before the 4th quarter. Did Dice look good. I still think he's a key - because he has tremendous upside IF he can recover. I know it's not likely but he's the only guy who we have who the potential to go from a so/so backup to a real good starter.

The Knicks don't have a franchise player but they have some good players if Dice and Williams can raise theor games to be consistently GOOD - Then I think the Knicks have enough to recover in time for the playoffs and do some damage in the east. Don't see them doing anything against an ELITE team unless absolutely every star in the UNIVERSE lines up. Dice returns to what he was, FW turns out to be a star, Motumbo plays like he did three years ago and everyone has else has career years.
Silverfuel
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1/4/2004  10:28 PM
Yes knickgeek. The fact that Allan Houston is our best players means that we are not going anywhere near a championship. One good thing, Fwill has emerged as an important player. Now that he is recognized as the best PG and all that good stuff, maybe Zeke will rid this team of the coach, and high priced roster.
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gunsnewing
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1/4/2004  10:32 PM
yep knicksgeek hit the nail right on the head.
Silverfuel
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1/4/2004  10:33 PM
Posted by OldFan:

I'm in MA. so don't get to see the games - how'd they look before the 4th quarter. Did Dice look good.
they looked really good before the fourth. They were playing defense and scoring very effeciently as well. The best part of it all I think was Deke blocking 10 shots. All of them were curcial too. He blocked important shots. Really changed the game around. I think we started to get blitzed after he left the game actually but i'm not sure so I didnt brign it up yet
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HARDCOREKNICKSFAN
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1/4/2004  10:33 PM
I just got back from the game, and am glad I did go. It helped to confirm that we need a REAL STAR on this team.

Allan Houston won't cut it. KVH WON'T cut it.

Jason Kidd beat us tonight. He was the only superstar on the court.

There will be NO playoffs for this team. They don't deserve it. Anyone idiot (yeah, IDIOT) enough to still think that they do, need the goddamn teeth slapped outta their mouths.

Chaney gotta GO. Isaiah better make some moves QUICK after witnessing this debacle tonight. He has till the trade deadline- no, scratch that... He should make the necessary moves in the offseason. There's no need to talk that silly shyt about the Playoffs- and I am glad he was smart enough to never have mentioned some stupid-azz bullshyt like that.
Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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1/4/2004  10:43 PM
I was thinking the same way as Oldfan. We have a chance because we have many good players but no superstar. But until we have a real coach we have no shot. I really don't want to wait til 2007 to be good again. It's too late now. We already wasted 2 years by not keeping Patrick and letting his contract run out and retire a Knick I don't have 10 years...it's already been 2 add another 4 before houston's contract runs out. Then the rebuilding will begin. Then add another 3-5 years on top of that. so we'll only be good next decade
Nalod
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1/4/2004  10:45 PM
Can't win without Frank now.

Whoa.
playa2
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1/4/2004  11:14 PM
Some of you non vision people can't see that this game was won by a healthy Nets backcourt against a crippled Knicks backcourt. Allan is still hurting quite noticeably and Frank would have had kidd playing some defense so he wouldn't have had all the energy or lack of fouls in the 4th qtr. Until the backcourt is healthy and Frank comes back I still won't judge this team yet. NY FOREVER!!! P.S. I haven't forgotten 1999
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1/4/2004  11:19 PM
I still believe!... The nets turned it up at the right time. No doubt. And the knicks didn't respond! No excuses!! Dice moved well and keith played good again. Deke was the man. H20 showed up. But kidd stole off and the rest of his boys jumped in! And that was that!


I've said it over and over. See me in feb- march! Thats when we'll know what we got!

One thing is for sure we will be in the play-offs!!! The Eastern conf made a big mistake by lettin us stay close.

I remember last year we made a run! This year will have a little more fire power!

I hope Lampe gets off the Ir. We need a boost, a spark.
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1/5/2004  7:41 AM
McDyess played the best I've seen fromn him in a Knicks uniform. Van Horn looks like an all-star. Deke destroyed Jersey in the paint like the good old days. All of that and we got smoked in the last six minutes. Frank Williams would have been the difference and I would like to see the same(knick) team that won 4 straight play Jersey head up.


JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
Andrew
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1/5/2004  8:17 AM
Contrary to what some posters are saying, the Knicks did not suck. They didn't play great, but they got beaten by a good team that had an amazing shooting run in the 4th. All that without Frank Williams who could have made a differance. Allan Houston showed the affects of his injury and hopefully will be better soon.
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Silverfuel
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1/5/2004  9:22 AM
They began shooting so well because the knicks stopped playing defense. The knicks were contesting shots all game long but just could'nt keep up the intensity all game long. The Net are better than us! Plain and simple.

They have complimentary players and we have complimentary players. They have defensive guys, we have defensive guys. They have Jerfferson we have KVH, k-mart for Dice but their best player's name is Jason Kidd, the knicks best player is Allan Houston. We just didn't match up.
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playa2
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1/5/2004  9:50 AM
Silver what game did you watch, Houston sac up and played with a gimpy knee why do you think Kittles was open for those shots? When kittles was hurt he played thew same way a step slow.
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