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Panos
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1/29/2010  6:04 PM
Are we seriously sitting here thinking about whether or not we're going to sign Arenas when/if he gets cut?

Zzzzz.....

Wake me up at the trading deadline.
Of course, I may just hit snooze till summer free agency.

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1/29/2010  6:47 PM
D'Antoni is not going to take on anyone with the character issues of an Arenas or Spree.
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1/29/2010  8:55 PM
iSergio wrote:Latrell Sprewell was a different player and person with New York than he was with Golden State. He matured.

I still think some of you are selling Gilbert Arenas way too short. Yes, he made a stupid mistake. He knows it. He even asked David Stern to suspend him for the season. He's not perfect. But he's a hell of a basketball player. Dude scored 60 points on Kobe Bryant at his house for God sake! He went bucket for bucket against LeBron James in the Playoffs. He's super clutch and competative. He's not a great one the ball defender but he's always averaging 2+ steals. Some of these negative comments make him out to be Stephon Marbury and he's not. He's bounced back from failures and disappointments all his life. Like I've said, I wouldn't trade for him with his current contract but if we can get that type of player for cheap, you have to be crazy not to want him. Arenas if healthy is a 25/5/5/2 player. Come on now! These type of players are not easy to acquire!

all that was pre-injury-injury and he STILL doesnt play any d... we really need more guys who cant play defense? as tms said, unless you are an agent zero fanboy, the fans in dc-balt are tired of him and his "leadership"...

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1/29/2010  8:59 PM
CrushAlot wrote:D'Antoni is not going to take on anyone with the character issues of an Arenas or Spree.

I agree. Plus I'm not sure if Gilbert fits the way Coach D wants to run an offense. He trouble running the motion offense with Marbury and I think he'd be hesitant bring in Arena, who dominates the ball just as much as Marbury.

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1/29/2010  10:40 PM
Cosmic wrote:And we all know Carlisemo isn't a saint either and likely fueled that incident.

So Carlesimo was asking for it? Of course, P.J. should have realized that Spree was under a lot of pressure and shouldn't have pushed him so far. Or are we blaming the victim?

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1/29/2010  11:02 PM
Do you guys watch the games with Arenas? He's an excellent player, very very clutch, and I don't think he's a headcase. When he's on the court there is actually excellent ball movement. I don't get the hate on Arenas. If we can get him for 7-8mm/yr we definitely go for it.
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1/29/2010  11:19 PM
Is it worse to point an unloaded gun at a teammate or choke out your boss?
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1/29/2010  11:41 PM
klintorious wrote:Is it worse to point an unloaded gun at a teammate or choke out your boss?

i'd rather have someone point an unloaded gun at me or choke me for a little than to have him drop a deuce in my shoe, that's all i know.

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1/30/2010  12:59 AM
knickstorrents wrote:Do you guys watch the games with Arenas? He's an excellent player, very very clutch, and I don't think he's a headcase. When he's on the court there is actually excellent ball movement. I don't get the hate on Arenas. If we can get him for 7-8mm/yr we definitely go for it.

i have for a number of years... unfortunately, i get mostly wizz games, so i have seen him since he arrived with the wizz. watching them is why i hated the jj signing too --> he wasnt good in wash, isnt good for ny. you may not have seen/heard the run ins with eddie jordan, the zero d effort, the joking that set the locker room on edge.

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1/30/2010  2:42 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/30/2010  2:44 AM
I know... it's the bright lights and big city that a cat like Arenas needs to stay out of trouble. Maybe D.C. is too boring & political for the dude. The guy is a big personality, we can agree on that, whether or not you like that personality.

Like Shaq needed to go to L.A. and be a genie, but then get the focus (and teammate) to get a ring.

Hibatchi needs to have a press corps on his Gus Johnson all the time, say a week's worth of backpage headlines in 10 minutes.

Or when he's bored he can run up and do the Top 10 for David Letterman or whatever to satiate his ADD. And this dude knows Bloomberg don't play that gunplay weaksauce else the Giants would have repeated.

If he can come and move the damn ball around the Garden floor so that it goes in the basket more often than the opposing team, that would be swell.

But I agree with whoever said that may not play that vibe. But Steve Nash is a quirky prankster, albeit a Canadian one. I kid the Canadians!

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1/30/2010  6:24 AM
DrAlphaeus wrote:
Cosmic wrote:And we all know Carlisemo isn't a saint either and likely fueled that incident.

So Carlesimo was asking for it? Of course, P.J. should have realized that Spree was under a lot of pressure and shouldn't have pushed him so far. Or are we blaming the victim?

Asking for it? I don't know I wasn't there but he is a hothead himself. He certainly had a part in the altercation. That argument likely turned nasty. People act like Spree went insane on the street and choked a random pregnant woman to death. Not the case.

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1/30/2010  9:03 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/30/2010  9:04 AM
I lived in Baltimore for 4 years and watched a good number of Wizards games, and I'm going to assume a lot of people haven't actually watched Arenas play, but merely critique his low FG% and quirky attitude in the media.

1) Arenas is a helluva basketball talent. He has almost infinite range on his jumper and can hit it from any spot on the court. He also has a great first step and can change direction on the dribble fluidly, which imo is the big reason he gets to the line so much. He's a tough cover for any defender. He doesn't shy in crunch time. This guy enjoys the spotlight, and plays better when his games are nationally televised or his team is in the playoffs.

His shot selection though is definitely in question, and I feel this is partly because he feels like he can make any shot, and starts chucking up crap instead of looking for a better opportunity. Moreover, I feel Eddie Jordan really stunted his growth in DC, and his game never really matured.

2) He isn't a lockerroom cancer like Marbury. Arenas, at the least, gets along with his teammates, even if its at the expense of being the "class clown." Marbury was the anti-social nutjob that never seemed to befriend any of his teammates.

3) I haven't really watched him much since his return from knee surgeries, so I don't know if he's lost some of his explosiveness. His FG% has been worse this season, but it's never been too high to begin with. However, I've always felt that if Arenas had a true alpha dog to defer to, like LeBron, his FG% would improve, much like Jason Terry's did when going from Atlanta to Dallas.

If his contract gets voided, he's a risk worth taking on the cheap. I'm talking about anywhere from veteran's minimum to MLE. While his felony gun possession charge may impact your view of him, it might actually be the wakeup call Arenas needed to finally mature as a person and player.

If it doesn't get voided, Washington will be looking to trade this guy ASAP, and would probably include picks or young players to do so. If we could get Arenas for 1st round picks + JJ/Curry, it's definitely something Walsh would have to consider, especially since it preserves our cap space for another max AND Lee. To reject a trade simply on the grounds that you don't like Arenas as a person is a Dolan-like reaction. I would really only make the trade though if we got LeBron. I wouldn't want to build around Arenas, but I think he could be a great second fiddle to a superstar.

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1/30/2010  9:23 AM
I disliked him before the gun incident. I was actually quite shocked by it. I didn't expect that from him. Regardless he is a clown and I don't want him on my team even for a contract-voided-vet-minimum.

FG percentage is indeed everything. Especially in a player who wants to be the top gun of a team and takes all the shots. You can't work around that. You can't succeed with that.

Let him be someone elses' problem.

And, yes, he is indeed a headcase like Marbury. Many teammates past and present have objected to his "class clown" garbage. Crapping in a teammates shoe. Hibachi. The blogging. In trouble with guns multiple times (yes, this wasn't the first, nor second, time this idiot has been involved with guns.).

Sorry, not buying the feel good bit regarding Arenas. Not buying "Gil just being Gil."

Dude is Marbury with a gun. But that is a defaming statement towards Marbury. Marbury actually put the ball in the hoop. Marbury spent millions of his own on charity.

Gil doesn't.

The hell with that clown.

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1/31/2010  3:48 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/31/2010  4:46 AM
scoshin wrote:I lived in Baltimore for 4 years and watched a good number of Wizards games, and I'm going to assume a lot of people haven't actually watched Arenas play, but merely critique his low FG% and quirky attitude in the media.

1) Arenas is a helluva basketball talent. He has almost infinite range on his jumper and can hit it from any spot on the court. He also has a great first step and can change direction on the dribble fluidly, which imo is the big reason he gets to the line so much. He's a tough cover for any defender. He doesn't shy in crunch time. This guy enjoys the spotlight, and plays better when his games are nationally televised or his team is in the playoffs.

His shot selection though is definitely in question, and I feel this is partly because he feels like he can make any shot, and starts chucking up crap instead of looking for a better opportunity. Moreover, I feel Eddie Jordan really stunted his growth in DC, and his game never really matured.

2) He isn't a lockerroom cancer like Marbury. Arenas, at the least, gets along with his teammates, even if its at the expense of being the "class clown." Marbury was the anti-social nutjob that never seemed to befriend any of his teammates.

3) I haven't really watched him much since his return from knee surgeries, so I don't know if he's lost some of his explosiveness. His FG% has been worse this season, but it's never been too high to begin with. However, I've always felt that if Arenas had a true alpha dog to defer to, like LeBron, his FG% would improve, much like Jason Terry's did when going from Atlanta to Dallas.

If his contract gets voided, he's a risk worth taking on the cheap. I'm talking about anywhere from veteran's minimum to MLE. While his felony gun possession charge may impact your view of him, it might actually be the wakeup call Arenas needed to finally mature as a person and player.

If it doesn't get voided, Washington will be looking to trade this guy ASAP, and would probably include picks or young players to do so. If we could get Arenas for 1st round picks + JJ/Curry, it's definitely something Walsh would have to consider, especially since it preserves our cap space for another max AND Lee. To reject a trade simply on the grounds that you don't like Arenas as a person is a Dolan-like reaction. I would really only make the trade though if we got LeBron. I wouldn't want to build around Arenas, but I think he could be a great second fiddle to a superstar.

Arenas plays a game that does not fit into what MDA is trying to run here... ur wasting ur time fantasizing about him coming here, it's not gonna happen broham

i live down in the DC area & take it from me, everyone i speak to is completely fed up with Gilbert Arenas & they regret the day they ever signed him to that ridiculous contract... this guy left 4 guns in front of a teammate's locker with a note asking him to pick one of them to shoot him with... he's got some serious issues that he needs to address... if u think that type of player is conducive to breeding team spirit & chemistry you're sorely mistaken

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